Re: Stus-List Setting GPS Waypoints (long)

2014-01-16 Thread Curtis
Glad you guys are sharing this. This is my First time learning how to use the gps. I sail in sight of land most of the time. I do want to learn and go of shore this spring. If fact, That's why I got a new GPS. keep in mind I have been studying paper charts and dead reckoning I do understand that

Stus-List Electronics - was Re: Setting GPS Waypoints (long)

2014-01-16 Thread Dr. Mark Bodnar
For me this brings up a good question.  I'm intrigued to hear that Curtis's new GPS has several additional features I didn't expect. If you were starting from scratch - what electronics would you put on the boat. Speed and depth are obvious.  Seems t

Re: Stus-List Electronics - was Re: Setting GPS Waypoints (long)

2014-01-16 Thread Andrew Burton
In order? 1 Depth 2 VHF 3 Stereo 4 GPS 5 Plotter 6 Speed 7 wind 8 radar or AIS, depending on area of use; offshore, I'm not sure that AIS isn't the more valuable tool 9 SSB Andy C&C 40 Peregrine On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 8:30 AM, Dr. Mark Bodnar wrote: > > For me this brings up a good question.

Re: Stus-List Electronics - was Re: Setting GPS Waypoints (long)

2014-01-16 Thread Andrew Burton
Forgot one. 4 Autopilot before GPS Andy C&C 40 Peregrine On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 8:35 AM, Andrew Burton wrote: > In order? > 1 Depth > 2 VHF > 3 Stereo > 4 GPS > 5 Plotter > 6 Speed > 7 wind > 8 radar or AIS, depending on area of use; offshore, I'm not sure that AIS > isn't the more valuable to

Re: Stus-List Redundant instrumentation / tools

2014-01-16 Thread Bill Coleman
Interesting story about a novice going coastal cruising with only his phone for location http://www.soundingsonline.com/dispatches/291566-video-a-novice-sailor-and-a -moonless-night http://www.sanluisobispo.com/2014/01/09/2869285/boat-rescue-helicopter-piedr as.html Bill Colema

Re: Stus-List Setting GPS Waypoints (long)

2014-01-16 Thread Marek Dziedzic
If I may add to it a bit... When you mark a waypoint and you are able to remain stationary for a few seconds, try making the waypoint using the average from numerous readings (usually the default is 16 or 64). When you capture 16 reading the GPS error is substantially reduced (especially, if yo

Re: Stus-List Electronics - was Re: Setting GPS Waypoints (long)

2014-01-16 Thread Stevan Plavsa
Aha! The stereo is very important! I thought so too. But then again, I sail within sight of land. I did install the stereo before I installed the new speed and depth. I was so happy when I got the stereo working that I put a video on youtube to show some friends .. and now you guys get to see it: h

Re: Stus-List Setting GPS Waypoints

2014-01-16 Thread Maturo, John
I certainly subscribe to Dennis's practice. It took me a couple of years before I trusted the routing capabilities of my gps. All of my routes are verified in good visibility before I trust them in the dark of night or fog. A proper watch and attention to what you see and hear rather than exclu

Re: Stus-List PHRF Question

2014-01-16 Thread Gary Nylander
Totally agree - we have folks with stop watches guessing when the boat crosses the line and then we want sub-second results! It cost our boat a title that year - we had one race where we tied the other boat at the one second level - but they beat us at the half second level, costing us a point a

Re: Stus-List Setting GPS Waypoints (long)

2014-01-16 Thread Dennis C.
Agreed on the slowing/stopping the boat to mark the waypoint.  I forgot to mention that in my original post.  I may even circle or move the boat slightly until I'm comfortable with the spot. Ditto the logbook.  While I don't log position each hour, I may log miles when entering/leaving harbors,

Re: Stus-List Electronics - was Re: Setting GPS Waypoints

2014-01-16 Thread Marek Dziedzic
I would say Speed first. It gives you enough that you can navigate (assuming that you have a compass (and a watch)). I would drop Stereo from this list (we never have it on; I like the sound of sailing – I hope this does not open a can of worms) I would put a GPS ahead of the autopilot, probabl

Re: Stus-List Electronics - was Re: Setting GPS Waypoints

2014-01-16 Thread Bill Coleman
Interesting, I am a musicaholic, and even tho I have a nice radio and speakers on the boat, I never listen to the radio under sail. Maybe a few times a year when I am working on the boat. It just doesn’t work for me when sailing. Like my old man used to say, “Everyone’s different” Bill Co

Re: Stus-List Electronics - was Re: Setting GPS Waypoints

2014-01-16 Thread Andrew Burton
Since getting my iPad a couple of years ago, I haven't pulled out a paper chart once. As you say, It's a great tool. I have to admit that my sextant hasn't accompanied me on a passage since about 2007 or 50,000 miles ago. I carry spare GPSs, but in the back of my mind always is the possibility that

Stus-List Painter Attachment to Boat

2014-01-16 Thread OldSteveH
Maybe all know this and maybe not - If you're towing a dinghy and your boat holes and sinks, it will take the dinghy with it. Unless you can untie or cut the painter really fast. In the midst of the emergency when you're trying to figure out what happened, where the water is coming in, if there is

Re: Stus-List Painter Attachment to Boat

2014-01-16 Thread Rich Knowles
Knife sounds good. I keep one in a plastic holster attached to the binnacle. Rich > On Jan 16, 2014, at 10:30, OldSteveH wrote: > > Maybe all know this and maybe not - If you're towing a dinghy and your boat > holes and sinks, it will take the dinghy with it. > Unless you can untie or cut the

Re: Stus-List Painter Attachment to Boat

2014-01-16 Thread Bill Coleman
If you were Robert Redford, Your boat, dingy and liferaft would all go down while you were shaving. Sorry, I know this was a serious post, sometimes I just can't help myself. Bill Coleman C&C 39 -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of OldSte

Re: Stus-List Painter Attachment to Boat

2014-01-16 Thread Rich Knowles
If you were Redford, you could probably walk on water and this would be moot. Rich > On Jan 16, 2014, at 10:36, "Bill Coleman" wrote: > > If you were Robert Redford, Your boat, dingy and liferaft would all go down > while you were shaving. > Sorry, I know this was a serious post, sometimes I j

Re: Stus-List Painter Attachment to Boat

2014-01-16 Thread David
I have always kept a knife at the mast and binnacle. I have yet to sink the boat to test the binnacle knife but we did save my brand new kevlar 150 from self-destructing with the mast knife. David F. Risch 1981 40-2 (401) 419-4650 (cell) > From: oldste...@sympatico.ca > To: cnc-list@cnc-lis

Re: Stus-List Electronics - was Re: Setting GPS Waypoints

2014-01-16 Thread dwight
For me: compass and paper charts, dividers and parallel rule always on board as well as clock and barometer 1. VHF (safety for me and monitoring channel 16 always while underway to lend a hand to others if needed) 2. depth 3. gps chart plotter 4.

Re: Stus-List Painter Attachment to Boat

2014-01-16 Thread Steve Thomas
An automatic detachment device might not be of much use for a dingy used as a liferaft unless it were also automatically rigged to deploy a sea anchor. Unless conditions were calm, one would have to be very lucky not to have it blow away from you. I think I can detach a line properly tied to a

Re: Stus-List Painter Attachment to Boat

2014-01-16 Thread Russ & Melody
If you have a concern then put a knife in the dinghy, similar to having one at the mast and one in the cockpit. My preference is a fixed blade (not folding). Cheers, Russ Sweet 35 mk-1 At 06:30 AM 16/01/2014, you wrote: Maybe all know this and maybe not - If you're towing a

Re: Stus-List Setting GPS Waypoints (long)

2014-01-16 Thread Della Barba, Joe
This is a good discussion. This has been a big issue in the flying world too. Airplanes now are EXACTLY on the charted airway, not just within a few miles of it. This caused a head-on collision down in Brazil between a 737 and an Embraer jet. A lot of restricted airspace violations come from se

Re: Stus-List Electronics - was Re: Setting GPS Waypoints

2014-01-16 Thread Della Barba, Joe
We did something similar heading to Bermuda. We could get a decent latitude from a sunsight, so we made SURE we were north and clear of the reefs that lie out to the west side of the island. We then followed an RDF bearing south to Saint George's. Speaking of biplanes, I was delivering a plane f

Re: Stus-List Painter Attachment to Boat

2014-01-16 Thread Della Barba, Joe
Knife? I could my dinghy line in about 10 seconds if motivated by being knee-deep! Joe Della Barba Coquina ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com

Re: Stus-List Painter Attachment to Boat

2014-01-16 Thread Rich Knowles
Fear makes the teeth sharp Rich > On Jan 16, 2014, at 12:14, "Della Barba, Joe" wrote: > > Knife? > I could my dinghy line in about 10 seconds if motivated by being knee-deep! > > Joe Della Barba > Coquina > > ___ > This List is provided by the C&

Stus-List Fwd: See Tomorrow's Fantastic Friday Deal Today

2014-01-16 Thread Joel Aronson
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Re: Stus-List Setting GPS Waypoints

2014-01-16 Thread Michael Brown
I upgraded from my ST4000 Autohelm to a SPX-5 with P70 control head last summer.  The main reason was the ST4000 was challenged holding a tight heading in bigger wave / higher wind days. Although suitable for my purposes it did not hold on course accurately either, which at the time I did not re

Re: Stus-List Painter Attachment to Boat

2014-01-16 Thread Jim Watts
I have a super-sharp serrated "net and line knife" made specifically for line that cuts anything very quickly, it lives on the binnacle. The dinghy is actually held by a large Harken cam cleat, with the end of the painter through the hole in a stanchion cleat and secured with a figure 8 stopper kno

Re: Stus-List Setting GPS Waypoints

2014-01-16 Thread Steve Sharkey
Are you seeing significantly better performance from the SPX-5 vs the ST4000? Steve Sharkey > On Jan 16, 2014, at 1:01 PM, Michael Brown wrote: > > I upgraded from my ST4000 Autohelm to a SPX-5 with P70 control head last > summer. The main reason > was the ST4000 was challenged holding a tigh

Stus-List West line sail

2014-01-16 Thread Joel Aronson
All, Tomorrow West has 40% off all line! I think they do this twice a year. -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com

Re: Stus-List Painter Attachment to Boat

2014-01-16 Thread Josh Muckley
What about a hydrostatic release like those used on the prainters of inflatable life rafts? Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk Maybe all know this and maybe not - If you're towing a dinghy and your boat holes and sinks, it will take the dinghy with it. Unless you can untie or cut the painter really fast. I

Re: Stus-List Redundant instrumentation / tools

2014-01-16 Thread Don Newman
Run up the coast from Florida to NY and you will be 100 miles offshore. I wouldn't want to try to find Bermuda with DR only. If your DR is current then you should be OK for most coastal runs. But it is so easy to learn basic sun sights and the sextant is such a great tool for racing on longer co

Re: Stus-List Painter Attachment to Boat

2014-01-16 Thread Colin Kilgour
I think you're over thinking it. A knife would certainly do the trick, but you'd probably just untie it. (BTW: if you DO have a liferaft on board, make sure it is tied to the boat securely BEFORE you deploy it. Then, don't cut it free until you're safely in the raft. There's nothing worse than

Re: Stus-List Redundant instrumentation / tools

2014-01-16 Thread Andrew Burton
True, Don. and depending on how far away I am, I to doubt I'd find Bermuda, so on to my destination...unless I had a portable radio I could make use as a makeshift RDF, or was within 50 miles and could get Bermuda Radio to give me a bearing on my VHF signal. Given all the crap I have to pack on th

Re: Stus-List Redundant instrumentation / tools

2014-01-16 Thread Don Newman
The odds are slim but you could loose all electronics including that transistor radio from a close lightning strike and a plastic sextant is cheap and light. Working on computers since 1965 has destroyed any faith I have in any electronic device working when I really need it. I am sure you wi

Re: Stus-List Redundant instrumentation / tools

2014-01-16 Thread Andrew Burton
I own a nice 1954 Plath sextant that I used to make my living for a couple of decades. The novelty has kind of warn off. Remember, it's not just the sextant, but at least two volumes of HO 249 plus the almanac. That being said, I'd never tell a crewmember there wasn't room for their sextant aboard

Re: Stus-List 'round the World Non-stop Alone Attempt Abandoned

2014-01-16 Thread Colin Kilgour
Yep. On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 12:49 PM, Joel Aronson wrote: > and Lyman Morse who built it. > > > On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 12:44 PM, Colin Kilgour > wrote: > >> I think the folks at Farr have some 'splaining to do... >> >> >> On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 10:33 PM, Rich Knowles wrote: >> >>> I'm sure

Re: Stus-List Redundant instrumentation / tools

2014-01-16 Thread Jim Watts
On our latest cruise, we put the portable GPS and one of the VHF handhelds into the oven whenever there was any electrical activity. Better chance than zero. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift C&C 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 16 January 2014 14:24, Andrew Burton wrote: > I own a nice 1954 Plath sextant tha

Re: Stus-List Redundant instrumentation / tools

2014-01-16 Thread Dennis C.
http://www.amazon.com/Antistatic-Bags-Resealable-6X10-Pack/dp/B000BSN274 Dennis C. > > From: Jim Watts >To: 1 CnC List >Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2014 5:43 PM >Subject: Re: Stus-List Redundant instrumentation / tools > > > >On our latest cruise, we put the

Re: Stus-List Redundant instrumentation / tools

2014-01-16 Thread Russ & Melody
Couldn't you have the SR tables & almanac on a PDA, mini-computer or phone :) Cheers, Russ Sweet 35 mk-1 At 02:24 PM 16/01/2014, you wrote: I own a nice 1954 Plath sextant that I used to make my living for a couple of decades. The novelty has kind of warn off. Remember, it's n

Stus-List redundant items

2014-01-16 Thread Jimmy Kelly
it has been mentioned use of portable transistor radio to find bermuda from mainland coast USAback in late 70s ..80s many skippers going to windward islands went by way of bermuda...turned right near bermuda ..sailed directly south about 900 nm then sse to islands...we had b&g rdf and sailed th

Stus-List storing handheld gps ..radios etc.

2014-01-16 Thread Jimmy Kelly
have not heard of oven storage before..would like to hear more...i was hit by lightning a number years a go ...only electrics not totally fried was spare b&g rdf...was not trailing ground from shrouds as was & is still a habit thanks. ___ This

Re: Stus-List Setting GPS Waypoints

2014-01-16 Thread Michael Brown
Short answer is yes. A bit more detail...  The ST4000 works OK until the amplitude of waves gives us a "corkscrew" path upwind. I played with various setting, like damping, and added a rudder sensor. The ST4000 would steer but get out of cadence with the waves, then over or under correct. Not a bi

Re: Stus-List storing handheld gps ..radios etc.

2014-01-16 Thread Jim Watts
The concept, IIRC, is that the metal oven acts as a Faraday cage when it's closed and there is no entry point for a sideflash. I'm sure someone will correct me here. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift C&C 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 16 January 2014 16:42, Jimmy Kelly wrote: > have not heard of oven storag

Re: Stus-List storing handheld gps ..radios etc.

2014-01-16 Thread Rich Knowles
Spot on. Rich > On Jan 16, 2014, at 20:58, Jim Watts wrote: > > The concept, IIRC, is that the metal oven acts as a Faraday cage when it's > closed and there is no entry point for a sideflash. I'm sure someone will > correct me here. > > Jim Watts > Paradigm Shift > C&C 35 Mk III > Victori

Re: Stus-List Electronics - was Re: Setting GPS Waypoints

2014-01-16 Thread Brad Crawford
Andrew, I have used my iPad most of the time as a chartplotter also, using Navionics, we also carry back up paper charts. So far our long distance trips have been to the San Juan islands and Gulf Islands of British Columbia. Just out of curiosity, how far off shore have you used your iPad as a

Re: Stus-List Setting GPS Waypoints -> Seatalk

2014-01-16 Thread Russ & Melody
Hi Michael, Please post the Seatalk talk info. I don't need it right now but I save these kinds of posts for when I do need it. Cheers, Russ Sweet 35 mk-1 At 04:55 PM 16/01/2014, you wrote: Short answer is yes. . Michael Brown Windburn C&C 30-1 PS: I can post more info

Re: Stus-List Electronics - was Re: Setting GPS Waypoints

2014-01-16 Thread Prime Interest
I've used my iPad for navigation on the Great Lakes using iNavx on an iPad without a SIM card and thus no cell service. Not sure whether Navionics requires a cell/internet connection to update chart information but iNax loads the regional maps so can operate in a unconnected manner. Although I

Re: Stus-List Electronics - was Re: Setting GPS Waypoints

2014-01-16 Thread Martin DeYoung
>… how far off shore have you used your iPad as a navigational tool, and have >you always had cell coverage.< A few years back I experienced occasional coverage 5 to 10 miles offshore from Tofino BC (West Coast, Vancouver Island) to San Diego. There is little to no Vancouver Island coverage no

Re: Stus-List Electronics - was Re: Setting GPS Waypoints

2014-01-16 Thread Joel Aronson
If your IPad has cell capability it will work as a GPS without cell service. Joel On Thursday, January 16, 2014, Martin DeYoung wrote: > >… how far off shore have you used your iPad as a navigational tool, and > have you always had cell coverage.< > > > > A few years back I experienced occasio

Re: Stus-List Electronics - was Re: Setting GPS Waypoints

2014-01-16 Thread sam . c . salter
I've used the iPad with iNavX in the Caribbean, Mexico, on the west coast, Catalina (off LA), Chesapeake all with no sim card. But you do need the more expensive one with GPS in - they are not all the same. 

Re: Stus-List Electronics - was Re: Setting GPS Waypoints

2014-01-16 Thread Andrew Burton
You don't Need cell coverage for the iPad to work as a plotter as long as you've got 3 or 4G cell capability. I guess the farthest offshore was just between Bermuda and the Virgins. Andy C&C 40 Peregrine Andrew Burton 61 W Narragansett Newport, RI USA02840 http://sites.google.com/site/a

Re: Stus-List Electronics - was Re: Setting GPS Waypoints

2014-01-16 Thread Rich Knowles
I don't understand. 3 or 4 4G cell capability Is cell coverage. Rich On Jan 16, 2014, at 10:56 PM, Andrew Burton wrote: You don't Need cell coverage for the iPad to work as a plotter as long as you've got 3 or 4G cell capability. I guess the farthest offshore was just between Bermuda a

Re: Stus-List Electronics - was Re: Setting GPS Waypoints

2014-01-16 Thread Jim Reinardy
Rich, It's an Apple thing. WiFi only models don't have a true GPS. The only GPS chip that you can get built into an iPad is contained in the cellular connectivity module. You don't have to activate any cellular data plan to get it to work, just buy the capability with the device. It doesn't

Re: Stus-List Electronics - was Re: Setting GPS Waypoints

2014-01-16 Thread Rich Knowles
OK. Thanks! I knew that. I just under/mis-read the email:) Sorry. Rich On Jan 16, 2014, at 11:29 PM, Jim Reinardy wrote: Rich, It’s an Apple thing. WiFi only models don’t have a true GPS. The only GPS chip that you can get built into an iPad is contained in the cellular connectivity

Re: Stus-List Electronics - was Re: Setting GPS Waypoints

2014-01-16 Thread Andrew Burton
That's what I was trying to say, Rich. I think when you get the iPad that has cell service it also has a dedicated GPS installed as well. That makes it work well offshore, out of cell range. Andy C&C 40 Peregrine Andrew Burton 61 W Narragansett Newport, RI USA02840 http://sites.google.com