OK. Thanks! I knew that. I just under/mis-read the email:) Sorry.

Rich







On Jan 16, 2014, at 11:29 PM, Jim Reinardy <firewa...@reinardy.us> wrote:

Rich,
 
It’s an Apple thing.  WiFi only models don’t have a true GPS.  The only GPS 
chip that you can get built into an iPad is contained in the cellular 
connectivity module. You don’t have to activate any cellular data plan to get 
it to work, just buy the capability with the device.  It doesn’t make much 
sense, but that is how they did it.  It’s true of every model up to and 
including the Air.  Hope that helps.
 
Regards,
 
Jim Reinardy
C&C 30-2 “Firewater”
Milwaukee, WI
 
 
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Electronics - was Re: Setting GPS Waypoints
 
I don't understand. 3 or 4 4G cell capability Is cell coverage.
 
Rich






 
On Jan 16, 2014, at 10:56 PM, Andrew Burton <a.burton.sai...@gmail.com> wrote:
 
You don't
 Need cell coverage for the iPad to work as a plotter as long as you've got 3 
or 4G cell capability. I guess the farthest offshore was just between Bermuda 
and the Virgins. 
 
Andy
C&C 40
Peregrine

Andrew Burton
61 W Narragansett
Newport, RI 
USA    02840
 
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On Jan 16, 2014, at 20:40, Brad Crawford <bcrawf7...@comcast.net> wrote:

Andrew,
I have used my iPad most of the time as a chartplotter also, using Navionics, 
we also carry back up paper charts.  So far our long distance trips have been 
to the San Juan islands and Gulf Islands of British Columbia.  Just out of 
curiosity, how far off shore have you used your iPad as a navigational tool, 
and have you always had cell coverage.
 
Brad
C&C 36
Dora Pearl 
Seattle

Sent from my iPad

On Jan 16, 2014, at 6:19 AM, Andrew Burton <a.burton.sai...@gmail.com> wrote:

Since getting my iPad a couple of years ago, I haven't pulled out a paper chart 
once. As you say, It's a great tool.
I have to admit that my sextant hasn't accompanied me on a passage since about 
2007 or 50,000 miles ago. I carry spare GPSs, but in the back of my mind always 
is the possibility that the whole system may go down and then what do I do? 
Well, I'm pretty confident of my ability to keep a good DR and EP, and in my 
ability to stay out of trouble when approaching a shoreline if I'm not 
confident of my position (which is pretty much always).

The bottom line is, I think that learning piloting--coastal navigation, etc--is 
a higher priority than learning to use a sextant. 

One little trick when approaching a shoreline without a position fix for some 
time is to steer to one side of where you want to go. That way when you see 
land, you know which way to turn to make your port. So if I want to get to 
Charleston, I may aim for Hilton Head and when I see land, or it starts getting 
shallow, I know to turn north in order to get to Charleston. If I aim straight 
for where I want to go, and miss, I'm not sure which direction to turn, the 
land being pretty featureless from offshore. This tip is courtesy of Chichester 
from when he was flying his Gypsy Moth biplane.

Andy
C&C 40
Peregrine
 

On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 9:14 AM, Marek Dziedzic <dziedzi...@hotmail.com> wrote:
I would say Speed first. It gives you enough that you can navigate (assuming 
that you have a compass (and a watch)).
 
I would drop Stereo from this list (we never have it on; I like the sound of 
sailing – I hope this does not open a can of worms)
 
I would put a GPS ahead of the autopilot, probably, mainly, because of the 
costs associated.
 
Marek
 
> In order?
> 1 Depth
> 2 VHF
> 3 Stereo
>4 Autopilot
> 4 GPS
> 5 Plotter
> 6 Speed
> 7 wind
> 8 radar or AIS, depending on area of use; offshore, I'm not sure that AIS
> isn't the more valuable tool
> 9 SSB

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