Re: Stus-List Security question + hurricanes

2013-04-27 Thread Joe Della Barba
Usually insurance holds everyone in the Bay until around the end of October before they can go farther south. This has caused the Annapolis Boat Show to be the traditional get together of the southbound cruising community. Joe Della Barba j...@dellabarba.com From: Dennis C. [mailto:capt.

Stus-List Went to see the 25 for myself

2013-04-27 Thread sander
Hi listers,Thank you all again for helping me with the information request a couple of days ago.Today I went to meet with the seller (a boat repair shop) and to inspect the boat. It's definitely a Mk1. Before you read further, I have pictures so drop me a line if you're interested in seeing them.Th

Re: Stus-List Went to see the 25 for myself

2013-04-27 Thread Knowles Rich
My first thought: Run, Sander, run! Rich Knowles Indigo. LF38 Halifax On 2013-04-27, at 11:33, wrote: Hi listers, Thank you all again for helping me with the information request a couple of days ago. Today I went to meet with the seller (a boat repair shop) and to inspect the boat. It's defi

Re: Stus-List Went to see the 25 for myself

2013-04-27 Thread Knowles Rich
But, on second thought, I'm approaching your question from an old person's view. The mere thought of getting that boat operational from the kit stage it is in makes me tired. However, I guess if you are looking for a project and willing to invest the time and whatever unknown chunk of cash you w

Re: Stus-List Went to see the 25 for myself

2013-04-27 Thread Knowles Rich
that's bow casting. Rich Knowles Indigo. LF38 Halifax On 2013-04-27, at 12:04, Knowles Rich wrote: > sure all the major lumps are there. Winches, now casting, Etc. etc. ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com C

Re: Stus-List Went to see the 25 for myself

2013-04-27 Thread Jim Watts
I second Rich's first recommendation. There are lots of boats around going for peanuts, you don't have to buy a kit boat and spend the next two years rebuilding it and spending far more money than a good boat would have cost. Run away. On 27 April 2013 08:06, Knowles Rich wrote: > that's bow ca

Re: Stus-List Went to see the 25 for myself

2013-04-27 Thread Steve Thomas
I would not offer more than $1000 based on your description, and then only if I really wanted to undertake a project of that magnitude. That is about what I estimate you might get for the lead in the keel, plus the rig, saildrive and other fittings if you scrap the boat. The fibreglass itself mig

Re: Stus-List Went to see the 25 for myself

2013-04-27 Thread Chuck S
Advice is worth what you pay for it. My gut says walk away. There are so many complete boats for sale right now and "fix'er uppers" litter boatyards everywhere. I helped a guy fix up an O'Day 24 that took him 6 years to splash. He got the boat for free and spent $6000 on Interlux two part pain

Re: Stus-List Went to see the 25 for myself

2013-04-27 Thread sam . c . salter
If you're interested in sailing - run away screaming! If you're more interested in DIY buy it. I know a guy who is 8yrs into a 1yr restoration of a stripped Ericsson 30 hull like yours. he's into it for about $80k and he'll be lucky to get $20 for it. ...and he never gets to go sailing! Buy the bes

Re: Stus-List Went to see the 25 for myself

2013-04-27 Thread Leslie Paal
In the current market conditions the yard should pay you to take over the headache.  You can buy a slightly neglected but in good condition boat for the same money as you will have to put into this.  Yes, you'll have an almost new boat at the end of the restoration, but this does not sound a sum

Re: Stus-List Went to see the 25 for myself

2013-04-27 Thread dwight veinot
There is a fair bit of scarp metal value in that keel Dwight Veinot C&C 35 MKII, Alianna Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS _ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Leslie Paal Sent: April 27, 2013 2:00 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List W

Stus-List Polars for a C&C 34 standard

2013-04-27 Thread Terry
Hello, does anyone have a set of polars for a C&C 34 standard? If I may get a copy I would appreciate the gift... Terry Johnson ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com

Stus-List C&C 25 mk??

2013-04-27 Thread sam . c . salter
What mk would a 1981 CnC 25 full keel be?What about a 1982 CnC25 shoal draft keel? This is a test! sam :-) 403-617-6280 ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com

Re: Stus-List Went to see the 25 for myself

2013-04-27 Thread Sander van der Moolen
Thanks everyone for your advice! I have no experience rebuilding boats. And there's really no point in taking a boat only to deliver it to a scrapyard. Of course I'm a bit disappointed, I was looking forward to having something special.. C&C's are not common here. But this project is way over my

Stus-List 34+ feature Good Old Boat mag.

2013-04-27 Thread Tom Buscaglia
Nice 4 page feature on the 34+ in the latest issue of Good Old Boat magazine. Typoed from my iPhone ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com

Re: Stus-List Went to see the 25 for myself

2013-04-27 Thread Knowles Rich
Well done, Sander. Sorry if you are disappointed, but it really is the right choice. Best wishes finding a good boat, C&C or otherwise. Cheers Rich Knowles Indigo. LF38 Halifax On 2013-04-27, at 15:03, "Sander van der Moolen" wrote: Thanks everyone for your advice! I have no experience rebui

Stus-List third battery

2013-04-27 Thread Richard H. Bernstein
I would like to install a third battery on Luna to give more power on the house side. I am curious where others with C&C 35's have put it. There doesn't seem to be room for another under the starboard quarter berth where the others are. Any advice?? Richard Bernstein LUNA 1984 C&C 35 Lake

Re: Stus-List third battery

2013-04-27 Thread dwight veinot
One my 35 MKII, I made room for two 6 volt golf cart batteries (house supply) and 1 group 24 deep cycle battery that I use as a starting battery. All told with those 3, I should have somewhere around 300 amp hours of power, using the house bank first of course and then I need to do a motor cruise

Stus-List third battery

2013-04-27 Thread Richard H. Bernstein
We are planning to install a refrigeration unit, hence the need for more juice. But, the question is--where did you find space for the extra battery? There's a space forward of the locker under the quarter birth--right under the seat for the nav table. But that's where the battery selecto

Re: Stus-List third battery

2013-04-27 Thread Knowles Rich
If you have room for a separate size 24 battery up near the windlass, a Xantrex EchoCharge box works just fine to keep it charged. Rich Knowles Indigo. LF38 Halifax On 2013-04-27, at 17:15, dwight veinot wrote: > …next is an anchor windlass which will take a lot of instantaneous power but >

Re: Stus-List third battery

2013-04-27 Thread dwight veinot
There was a wet locker, starboard side aft beside the companionway steps. I mounted one 6 volt on an attached platform there and the other 6 volt aft of the regular partition beside the engine connected in series with a proper cable and vented enclosures. The group 24 deep cycle is mounted starboa

Re: Stus-List third battery

2013-04-27 Thread dwight veinot
I have lots of room for that on my boat...thanks Rich Dwight Veinot C&C 35 MKII, Alianna Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Knowles Rich Sent: April 27, 2013 5:44 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re:

Re: Stus-List third battery

2013-04-27 Thread Joel Aronson
On my mk 3 there is room under there. Joel Aronson On Apr 27, 2013, at 4:39 PM, "Richard H. Bernstein" < richard.h.bernst...@uvm.edu> wrote: We are planning to install a refrigeration unit, hence the need for more juice. But, the question is--where did you find space for the extra battery? Th

Re: Stus-List third battery

2013-04-27 Thread Don Wagner
Battery switches should be ignition proof, and approved by UL, ABYC, and others. You should not have to worry about a hydrogen explosion, but if you are still concerned, make sure that the locker is well vented, perhaps both at the top and the bottom. Hydrogen, being lighter than air will vent

Re: Stus-List Went to see the 25 for myself

2013-04-27 Thread Wally Bryant
Sander wrote: I have no experience rebuilding boats. Good call. It would be a good backyard project if you want to rebuild a boat but have another boat to sail. Wal ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com C

Re: Stus-List third battery

2013-04-27 Thread Joel Aronson
Richard You can put the charger on the outside. Keep the heat out of the battery compartment. Joel Aronson On Apr 27, 2013, at 4:39 PM, "Richard H. Bernstein" < richard.h.bernst...@uvm.edu> wrote: We are planning to install a refrigeration unit, hence the need for more juice. But, the questio

Re: Stus-List third battery

2013-04-27 Thread Tim Goodyear
Likewise, I have three batteries (2x 31? and 1 x 24) in that forward locker under the starboard quarterberth (same model as you). It's really tight, so I'm planning to move the starter battery elsewhere, possibly in the rear locker under the same berth if tall enough. Tim Mojito C&C 35-3 1984

Re: Stus-List third battery

2013-04-27 Thread Wally Bryant
Won´t it get wet? you wrote: You can put the charger on the outside. ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com

Re: Stus-List third battery

2013-04-27 Thread Joel Aronson
Only on port tack. Joel Aronson On Apr 27, 2013, at 6:26 PM, Wally Bryant wrote: > Won´t it get wet? > > you wrote: >> You can put the charger on the outside. > > > ___ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > C

Re: Stus-List third battery

2013-04-27 Thread dwight veinot
I have had the leeward rail under and still get big splashes over the windward rail and right into the cockpit, what a rush that is for the helmsman in the cold waters we have around here...my battery charger is mounted high and dry below decks Dwight Veinot C&C 35 MKII, Alianna Head of St. Margar

Re: Stus-List third battery -25 marks!

2013-04-27 Thread sam . c . salter
Forget the third battery - boring!Enlighten me on the CnC 25 marks.My boss in the marina has just bought both. '81 full keel / 81 shoal.Which one to keep? Sam Salter C&C 26 Liquorice Ghost Lake Alberta 

Re: Stus-List Went to see the 25 for myself

2013-04-27 Thread Chuck S
Sander, I think you made the right decision. Save your money while looking for a more suitable boat. Once you sign papers, you'll start paying for storage and electric and insurance and buying parts and tools you'll need and all your free time will be taken. Chuck Resolute 1990 C&C 34R A

Stus-List Fw: third battery -25 marks!

2013-04-27 Thread sam . c . salter
Edit - 82 full keel  sam :-) 403-617-6280

Re: Stus-List third battery -25 marks!

2013-04-27 Thread dwight veinot
For me full keel, but I think an 81 model might be a mark II. I prefer the older MKI full keel 25’s. We got lots of depth around here and afternoon southwesterlies can get above 20 true quite often…you leave home at 11 a.m. on a nice beat in 12-15 apparent and before 2 pm you are often struggling

Re: Stus-List Fw: third battery -25 marks!

2013-04-27 Thread dwight veinot
And for what it’s worth Sam but not to create an argument, the 25 MKI full keel will do a number on your 26 going to weather, both boats equally well sailed. Here are some local area handicaps for NS; C&C 24 222 C&C 25-1 207 C&C 25-2 207 C&C 26 219 C&C 27-1 207

Re: Stus-List Went to see the 25 for myself

2013-04-27 Thread D.Drake
Sander My C&C 26 which was complete and sailing the summer before took my wife and I ,every hour of every weekend and 3 weeks of vacation just to paint the topsides and deck . Every piece of hardware was removed and bagged with pictures . I knew the boat inside and out before I started That i

Re: Stus-List Fw: third battery -25 marks!

2013-04-27 Thread sam . c . salter
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Re: Stus-List Fw: third battery -25 marks!

2013-04-27 Thread dwight veinot
I don’t blame her, accommodations are a good reason, otherwise she may just stay home and then you would have to sail alone a lot, more fun when you do it together and for that who cares about a few extra seconds per mile…I know there is a joke in there somewhere for Rich :-) Dwight Veinot C&C

Re: Stus-List third battery

2013-04-27 Thread Jake Brodersen
Richard, I have room for four batteries in the quarterberth. I currently carry only two. A large AGM house battery and a slightly smaller AGM battery for house/starting purposes. Jake Jake Brodersen C&C 35 Mk-III Midnight Mistress Hampton VA cid:image001.png@01CE3

Re: Stus-List Fw: third battery -25 marks!

2013-04-27 Thread Knowles Rich
Dwight! I never joke about women. They are not funny. Rich Knowles Indigo. LF38 Halifax On 2013-04-27, at 22:21, dwight veinot wrote: I don’t blame her, accommodations are a good reason, otherwise she may just stay home and then you would have to sail alone a lot, more fun when you do it to

Re: Stus-List Fw: third battery -25 marks!

2013-04-27 Thread Jim Watts
Not when they are in earshot, anyhow. On 27 April 2013 18:32, Knowles Rich wrote: > Dwight! I never joke about women. They are not funny. > > Rich Knowles > Indigo. LF38 > Halifax > > On 2013-04-27, at 22:21, dwight veinot > wrote: > > ** ** ** ** > > I don’t blame her, accommodations are a g

Re: Stus-List third battery

2013-04-27 Thread Jim Watts
I have two group 27 deep cycle and one group 24 starting battery in the forward compartment and another deep cycle in the aft compartment of the quarterberth. Lots of room back there. On 27 April 2013 18:25, Jake Brodersen wrote: > Richard, > > ** ** > > I have room for four batteries in th

Stus-List diesel leak on VC17

2013-04-27 Thread Pierre Tremblay
Hi listers,   Last autumn, I slightly overfill my fuel tank, and some of it went out the vent, and onto the VC17 bottom.   So now, for prepping the bottom, how can I clean the diesel from the VC17 before repainting?   Pierre Tremblay Avalanche,  #54988 C&C38-3 WK__

Re: Stus-List third battery -25 marks!

2013-04-27 Thread Rick Taillieu
Sam, C&C never built a shoal draft 25. The Mk1 has a 3' 10" draft and the Mk2 has a 4' 3" draft. If you see one advertised with something other than that, it is either a Redline 25 (a totally different boat from the late '60s or early '70s) or it has been hacked. Tell him to keep the regular

Re: Stus-List diesel leak on VC17

2013-04-27 Thread dwight veinot
I don't think there should be a problem with the diesel fuel getting on there last year as far as overcoating goes, but you could wipe the affected area down with a cloth soaked in a more volatile solvent, like acetone for example, before painting. Careful with the acetone it can eat into the gelc

Re: Stus-List third battery

2013-04-27 Thread Jim Watts
Let me correct myself. I upgraded my batteries last fall, I have 3 Group 30's in total and one 24. That's 144 groups but only 12 volts. 12 volts per group sounds equitable. On 27 April 2013 18:37, Jim Watts wrote: > I have two group 27 deep cycle and one group 24 starting battery in the > for

Re: Stus-List third battery

2013-04-27 Thread Jim Watts
That's only 114...lemme get back to you on that. On 27 April 2013 22:00, Jim Watts wrote: > Let me correct myself. I upgraded my batteries last fall, I have 3 Group > 30's in total and one 24. > > > That's 144 groups but only 12 volts. 12 volts per group sounds equitable. > > > On 27 April 201

Re: Stus-List third battery

2013-04-27 Thread Rich Knowles
That's just about enough for a good group grope. Rich Knowles Indigo - C&C LF38 Halifax - Nova Scotia On 2013-04-28, at 2:02, Jim Watts wrote: > That's only 114...lemme get back to you on that. > > > > On 27 April 2013 22:00, Jim Watts wrote: >> Let me correct myself. I upgraded my batte