Re: Stus-List Crazy surfers

Riding motorcycles I remember hearing a pertinent old saying: "you start off with an empty bag of experience and a full bag of luck. The trick is to fill the bag of experience before you run out of luck". Steve C&C 32 Toronto On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 1:10 AM, Leslie Paal wrote: > As member of t

Re: Stus-List Sandy Sunday

Same here - a bunch of boats decided to give up for the season and hauled out over the weekend. We are 'around the corner' at the marina in a sheltered area (same place as we endured Isabel and Irene) and double tied to everything with long lines and tall pilings (many of which were replaced - t

Re: Stus-List Crazy surfers

So true Chuck Resolute 1990 C&C 34R New Gretna, NJ - Original Message - From: "Stevan Plavsa" To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 9:02:51 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List Crazy surfers Riding motorcycles I remember hearing a pertinent old saying: "you start off w

Re: Stus-List Hurricane Sandy

Good Luck Tim and all those along the coast. Chuck Resolute 1990 C&C 34R New Gretna, NJ - Original Message - From: "Tim Goodyear" To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2012 6:07:59 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Hurricane Sandy Combination Effect Lake Erie Forecast The

Re: Stus-List Hurricane Sandy

Joel, You might want to check your sources? Except for the deep shipping channel, most of Delaware Bay is less than 15 ft deep. Maybe the big waves are forecast for the canyon, offshore? Chuck Resolute 1990 C&C 34R New Gretna, NJ - Original Message - From: "Joel Aronson" To: cnc

Re: Stus-List Hurricane Sandy

I'm still floating on the mooring. All canvas and sails taken in and off the boat. My only concern is the tide really. This marina has been in service a long time, over 80 years, they seemed to think I'd be okay out there on their mooring. Fingers crossed! DannyLolita1973 Viking 33Westport Po

Re: Stus-List Holding tank fitting leak

Can you go a size bigger on the fitting and retap? -- Original Message -- From: "larry dck" To: Subject: Stus-List Holding tank fitting leak Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 10:55:16 -0400 While winterizing my boat,35 MKIII, I noticed that the threaded elbow fitting on the bottom of my

Re: Stus-List Hot water heaters

That's pretty restrictive language... and for most of us who bought our boats used, how are we to know if our stoves were professionally installed or not? And even if it was, when the propane line gets old and and needs replacement, can you not DIY it? Or how about replacing the stove itself? Wh

Re: Stus-List Hurricane Sandy Combination Effect Lake Erie Forecast

Don't forget to take your EPIRB in the car… Seriously, this looks to be quite a large and widespread storm; my best wishes to all the C&C'ers and their families -- I hope you make it through safely and in good shape. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard

Stus-List Bounty sinking today

Can't believe a ship like Bounty would get caught in a hurricane, but apparently she was reported today sinking and abandoned off Hatteras and USCG rescued 14, two still missing? http://www2.wnct.com/news/2012/oct/29/7/coast-guard-rescue-underway-hatteras-ar-2734769/ Chuck Resolute 1990 C

Stus-List HMS Bounty Abandoned - 2 Crew Missing at Sea.

This sucks. Big time. http://www.uscgnews.com/go/doc/4007/1591487/UPDATE-Coast-Guard-rescues-14-continues-searching-for-2-from-HMS-Bounty Cheers, Colin ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com

Re: Stus-List Bilge smells

I removed everything in the spring on launch, sprayed everything with a mix of tide and bleach, heavier where mold was. Then brought in a 4000# powerwasher and cleaned it all up. Made a big difference, to this day. (be careful with bleach, chlorine is extremely corrosive) Previous owner never had

Stus-List winter storage---infatable boat

I am wondering about outside winter storage for my inflatable boat. Any advice appreciated. Dwight Veinot C&C 35 MKII, Alianna Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS _ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Colin Kilgour Sent: October 29, 2012 11:41 AM To: C&C

Re: Stus-List Bounty sinking today

The storm was already hurricane strength and heading their way BEFORE they left New London. This is their Facebook post from Oct 25, the day they left. "Bounty has departed New London CT...Next Port of Call...St. Petersburg, Florida. Bounty will be sailing due East out to sea before heading South

Stus-List Sandy

It is rather interesting to be in the path of the storm and feel totally helpless if it hits as predicted. Frolic II, C&C 36, is in her slip in Bohemia Bay Yacht Harbor which is between the C&D Canal and the upper Chesapeake Bay. I spent most of Saturday doing what could be done to remove ev

Stus-List Sandy

Google has an interesting map: http://google.org/crisismap/2012-sandy -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com

Re: Stus-List Holding tank fitting leak

Nothing will stick to polyethylene. I would use teflon tape, one healthy turn around the male fitting and it will last forever… Micheal S/V Tachyon On Oct 29, 2012, at 12:00 PM, "larry dck" wrote: > > While winterizing my boat,35 MKIII, I noticed that the threaded elbow fitting > on the botto

Re: Stus-List HMS Bounty Abandoned - 2 Crew Missing at Sea.

Not pretty. She left New London on 25 October enroute Miami. The path for Sandy had been known prior to that. Rumor has it the captain decided he could skirt the outside of the storm ... in a square rigger! On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Colin Kilgour wrote: > This sucks. Big time. > > > h

Re: Stus-List Sandy

Tom, Wish you the best. I'm on the West River, just south of Annapolis. I secured mine on Saturday, and like you, couldn't believe the number of people who do absolutely nothing to their boats. I saw over a dozen boats with sails still on the roller furler. I put extra lines on the tub next to

Re: Stus-List Hot water heaters

Hi Colin I do agree, it is pretty restrictive and when it comes time to replace my stove I will be having a chat. But you have to agree, propane is a pretty easy way to blow up a boat! Given that this restriction appears on it's own page (the Group W bench???), I'm guessing this company had

Re: Stus-List Bounty sinking today

New London would not be a safe haven either. But Bermuda or Azores or Spain would have been a nice safe place before heading to Florida. Chuck Resolute 1990 C&C 34R New Gretna, NJ - Original Message - From: "Colin Kilgour" To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012

Re: Stus-List Bounty sinking today

So would Maine. And a lot easier to get to from New London. I've run up there a couple of times to get away from hurricanes. That crew could have been in some pub, drinking excellent beer, and regaling the locals with great sea stories. Unfortunately, the captain was arrogant enough to believe h

Re: Stus-List Sandy

Pat: Absentee boat ownership is a disease not limited to your area. Before Isaac hit, the marina management reminded all tenants that their leases required removal of all canvas and sails plus encouragement for further storm preparations. A significant number did not comply. One today, 2 month

Re: Stus-List Bounty sinking today

There are at least two "harbors of refuge" reasonably close to New London - Point Judith and New Bedford Jonathan On Oct 29, 2012, at 13:30, Chuck S wrote: > New London would not be a safe haven either. But Bermuda or Azores or Spain > would have been a nice safe place before heading to Flo

Re: Stus-List HMS Bounty Abandoned - 2 Crew Missing at Sea.

I've been questioning the captain's judgment since the story first broke on the local news a bit after 5am today. Reports are that the wind was 40 kt and 18 ft seas, but I suspect that conditions were a lot worse than that last evening and overnight. Sandy's CPA to Hatteras was late last n

Re: Stus-List Sandy

Listers, Good luck to all those affected by Sandy. They are expecting up to 12 feet or higher water levels by City Island and Western Long Island Sound tonight with the tide, which could be devastating to the whole island and may even wash the Enterprise off the jackstands. Al

Stus-List Maine hurricane hole?

OK, Never been to Maine, but sounds like there are some hurricane holes up there? Which would you recommend? Chuck Resolute 1990 C&C 34R New Gretna, NJ - Original Message - From: "Andrew Burton" To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 1

Re: Stus-List Bounty sinking today

New Bedford showed its worth during Irene last year. All the larger boats that chose to moor there were smashed up, including one belonging to a friend of mine. He is very sorry he didn't just stay at Marths's Vineyard. Steve Thomas C&C27 MKIII Port Stanley, ON -Original Message- From:

Re: Stus-List Maine hurricane hole?

I sat out Gloria up in a little unnamed cove near Gurnet off the New Meadows River. I'd also look at Quahog Bay nearby. I looked at The Basin, but it was pretty crowded. There are a ton of good spots and places to escape the crowds as well as the winds. Andrew Burton PO Box 632 Newport, RI US

Re: Stus-List Bounty sinking today

Colin writes' "...[w]hen there's already a named storm on the map, why the hell are you putting to see [sic] and heading right into it? Because St. Petersburg, FL is (was!) a paid appearance. These vessels operate on appearance fees. That said, this decision was negligence bordering on criminal

Stus-List Sandy NJ 3pm

I'm 30 minutes from the boat and state of emergency keeps me at home. It's been raining pretty hard all day with 10 to 20 kt winds. Now it has increased to 20 to 30 kts and people are posting flood pictures from this morning on Facebook. My landlady in Atlantic City just called to report a 100ft

Re: Stus-List Bounty sinking today

New Bedford... the "Harbor of Refuge"... is the only harbor I know of on the South Coast that lost multiple boats during Irene. There should have been an investigation into that one. Unlike most harbors around here, that is a commercial harbor with a large fishing fleet. So you'd think the h

Re: Stus-List Sandy

On 10/29/2012 02:37 PM, Edd Schillay wrote: > > As one of my crew just wrote: "I hope the Enterprise survives the storm > OK, but, as Captain Picard said in First Contact, 'there are plenty more > letters in the alphabet.'" > Yeah, but he wasn't paying the insurance premium.

Re: Stus-List Sandy NJ 3pm

see:  http://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/gmap3/ Closest station is Atlantic City.  Level at 6.17 feet at 1600 EDT. Dennis C. > > From: Chuck S >To: cnc-list CNC boat owners >Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 2:30 PM >Subject: Stus-List Sandy NJ 3pm > > >I'm 30 m

Re: Stus-List Bounty sinking today

I wonder if this link is of the rescue: There's no commentary, but the folks are wearing full survival suits. You're right, if the owner of the boat forced them to put to sea on that course in this weather, he should pay

Re: Stus-List Annapolis forecast

As I am prone to say in the face of a storm, "We'll sail REALLY fast...right before it kills us!" --- On Fri, 10/26/12, Pat Nevitt wrote: From: Pat Nevitt Subject: Re: Stus-List Annapolis forecast To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Date: Friday, October 26, 2012, 1:25 PM Hey we could race Sunday and t

Re: Stus-List Bounty sinking today

It looked like one of the ones hauled up was wearing ski googles.  I keep a cheap pair on Touche'. I'll be replacing my real ski goggles this season.  The old pair will probably find its way to the boat also. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA > > Fr

Re: Stus-List Bounty sinking today

My buddy lost his boat in New Bedford last year. Boats piled on boats which piled on boats. All plasure boats...it just takes on knucklehead to start the chain reaction. David F. Risch (401) 419-4650 cell -Original Message- Fro

Re: Stus-List Hot water heaters

FYI...The "CYA" no longer existsYep Canadian Yachting Association is gonewell in name at least. The new governing body is Sail Canada. Offical name change was voted in at the AGM last weekend. -- Cheers, Jeff Nelson Muir Caileag C&C 30 Armdale Y

Re: Stus-List Sandy

We're lucky. The owners of the boatyard where I keep Penniless are conservative. They called and said if I wasn't going to be around to take care of my boat, could they? I am here but moved the boat to a better location while they pulled many boats and secured the rest rather well. And we

Re: Stus-List Bounty sinking today

Bounty Sinks off Cape Hatteras October 29, 2012 – Atlantic Ocean As the East Coast battens down the hatches in preparation for Hurricane Sandy, the Category 1 hurricane may have claimed her first victims. The captain and one crewmember from the tall ship Bounty, a replica of the original HMS Bou

Re: Stus-List Bounty sinking today

Interesting that this says that these are Sandy’s first victims. Here’s an article talking about the 69 killed in the Caribbean. http://abcnews.go.com/ABC_Univision/News/hurricane-sandy-leaves-destruction-wake/story?id=17588956#.UI8LHcXR67E From: Richard Davis Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 6:3

Re: Stus-List Bounty sinking today

One more crewmember was rescued. The captain is still missing. Joel Sent from my iPad On Oct 29, 2012, at 7:06 PM, Steve Sharkey wrote: Interesting that this says that these are Sandy’s first victims. Here’s an article talking about the 69 killed in the Caribbean. http://abcnews.go.com/ABC_

Re: Stus-List Bounty sinking today

Paid appearance? When is that worth the risk of a sinking and lawsuits? There's been lots of comments about this unwise decision but my thought is for the crew, not just around the sinking and rescue but in going out there in the first place. I sailed from Halifax to Bermuda in May with Derek Hatf

Re: Stus-List Bounty sinking today

My gut tells me the Captain went down with the ship...perhaps on purpose? Given earler decision, results and heritage... David F. Risch (401) 419-4650 cell -Original Message- From: Joel Aronson Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 23:07:44 To:

Re: Stus-List Bounty sinking today

A couple of news stories report that the Captain was in a survival suit. On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 7:46 PM, David Risch wrote: > My gut tells me the Captain went down with the ship...perhaps on purpose? > Given earler decision, results and heritage... ___

Re: Stus-List Bounty sinking today

Apparently Capt Wallbridge is one of the missing On 29/10/2012 3:28 PM, Richard Walter wrote: Colin writes' "...[w]hen there's already a named storm on the map, why the hell are you putting to see [sic] and heading right into it? Because St. Petersburg, FL is (was!) a paid appearance. These ves

Re: Stus-List HMS Bounty Abandoned - 2 Crew Missing at Sea.

I wonder if the Captain was expecting to get through the Gulfstream and then just turn right and deal with less-rough conditions. I have no familiarity with that region. Bob M Ox 33-1 Jax, FL ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cn

Re: Stus-List HMS Bounty Abandoned - 2 Crew Missing at Sea.

It seems from the course track that I have seen that may have been his intention, but it was a very poor decision! The area he sailed into has a strong gulf stream flow from Southwest to Northeast and the storm winds from the Northeast. The waves stack up and get very steep in even a mild Nor'e

Stus-List Bounty sinking today

>From what I understand all of the crew members have been rescued, except for >one...the Captain. If so, no jail time. Tom Buscaglia The Game Attorney PC 888-848-GLAW Skype - thombusc On Oct 29, 2012, at 3:35 PM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote: > Colin writes' "...[w]hen there's already a

Stus-List HMS Bounty: A tall ship’s final hours in hurricane-ravaged seas - The Washington Post

why leave port to sail into the teeth of a hurricane? http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/tall-ship-hms-bounty-sinks-off-nc-coast-two-still-missing/2012/10/29/d276daf8-21d8-11e2-8448-81b1ce7d6978_story.html Cheers, Peter S/V Tangerine C&C35 MK II Lion's Head, Ontario ___

Re: Stus-List Bounty sinking today

Theree isn't much EAST in her course. Montauk is 41N 71.5W. She sank at about 31N 71W. It looks like she was reaching/running across the front of the storm and against the current of the Gulf Stream in the last day or so. -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-lis

Re: Stus-List Bounty sinking today

The 15th crewmember was located some time before sunset (around 7pm locally). She was unconscious and unresponsive. She was flown to a hospital in Elizabeth City (where the CG airbase is) and died in the hospital this evening. I suspect there will be a USCG inquiry and we'll eventually find out mo