Rick Brass [mailto:rickbr...@earthlink.net]
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 8:05 PM
To: 'coltrek'; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: RE: Stus-List winterizing engine "hose rig"
Bill;
Having the strainer below the waterline is pretty much the normal
installation. If the top
Jack,
the “T” is a non-issue; the water pressure from the garden hose might be.
There is no way the water can enter through the intake through hull and flow
across the engine to the muffler (the static pressure there is about 0.05 atm
(<1 psi)). But a water under pressure (municipal water suppl
-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of coltrek
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 6:55 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List winterizing engine "hose rig"
My strainer is below the waterline, but then it goes into a siphon break, which
is above the waterline. Isn't that w
l open while sailing, and on
> long trips, and I’ve never had a problem with the diesel flooding.
>
> Jack Brennan
> Former C&C 25
> Shanachie, 1974 Bristol 30
> Tierra Verde, Fl.
>
> *From:* Marek Dziedzic
> *Sent:* Monday, November 18, 2013 1:32 PM
> *To:* c
f the water after stopping
the engine and avoid the risk.
Chuck
Resolute
1990 C&C 34R
Atlantic City, NJ
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From: "Jack Brennan"
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Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 6:34:58 PM
Subject: Re: Stus-List winterizing engine "hos
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Aren’t water strainers commonly positioned above the waterline near the
centerline of the boat? I know mine is. That should keep any raw water from
entering the diesel. The T fitting would be a non-issue.
I routinely lea
, and I’ve never had a problem with the diesel flooding.
Jack Brennan
Former C&C 25
Shanachie, 1974 Bristol 30
Tierra Verde, Fl.
From: Marek Dziedzic
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 1:32 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
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Hi Chuck,
I
34R
Atlantic City, NJ
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From: "Marek Dziedzic"
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 1:32:24 PM
Subject: Re: Stus-List winterizing engine "hose rig"
Hi Chuck,
I have seen this “tee” arrangement on many boats, but I
Hi Chuck,
I have seen this “tee” arrangement on many boats, but I was advised that it is
an easy way to flood the engine with water. If your water pump does not stop
the water flow (and it does not have to), you can easily overflow the muffler
and the mixing elbow and fill the cylinder(s) with
l Coleman"
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 2:15:31 PM
Subject: Re: Stus-List winterizing engine
That is definitely a better alternative to what I do, it's just that my
strainer is behind the engine, and if I did that I would be disemboweled by
the alter
Dwight,
I don’t intend on bragging, but we are normally about 7-10 C colder in winter
than you are.
I lived by the sea for many years and I know how the extra wind chill and
humidity can feel, but for the hard freeze of the water it does not matter that
much.
I know that the 20 l of antifre
My Pearson had a tee and a second seacock and piece of hose to make
Winterizing easy.
Joel
On Friday, November 15, 2013, Della Barba, Joe wrote:
> My boat has a T on the inlet and one hose goes to the engine and one to
> the wash-down pump. To winterize I just shut off the thru-hull and pull the
My boat has a T on the inlet and one hose goes to the engine and one to the
wash-down pump. To winterize I just shut off the thru-hull and pull the hose
off the wash-down pump and stick it in a bucket with anti-freeze in it. The
following only applies to raw water cooled engines, so all the FWC
For a more or less "hands-free" method, I inserted a valve in the side of one
of those larger, plastic buckets [e.g., a painter's bucket]. The valve was
purchased at local hardware store, and it goes through the side of the bucket,
of course, held in place by a threaded fitting. I sealed it t
did that I would be disemboweled by
> the alternator!
>
> Bill Coleman
> C&C 39
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Eric
> Frank
> Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 10:47 AM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
&
rank
Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 10:47 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List winterizing engine
A possible simplification of Bill's Groco Strainer solution?
For the last couple of years I have just taken the lid off the Groco
Strainer and poured in antifreeze as the water
Marek:
I use basically the same method as Dwightbucket with hose in it in
the cockpit with a hose running from it to the intake on the water pump
to fresh water pump.then let the engine pump the fresh water out and
I put a 50/50 antifreeze in the bucket (2 gallons) but my Yanmar 2GMF
water pump pumped it out. Needs to
>> stay full to avoid running the pump dry, but that is easy to do just by
>> watching the level. In a minute or so an entire gallon has gone through, I
>> kill the engine and am done. Is this procedure not good?
>>
>> Eric Fra
Marek
I live in what some would call up north and it can get pretty darn cold
here in Jan/ Feb and as I said I use 4 liters of 50/50 mix to winterize my
engine heat exchanger system. The engine block itself always has 50/50 in
it and this year I drained and renewed the coolant for the first time
Nov 2013 10:03:21 -0500
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I have seen that done, so it must work.
Two other suggestions,
Replace your hose
nC discussion listSubject: Stus-List winterizing engine I am planning to winterize my engine this weekend and it is the first time with the Universal M4-30. On my older 34, I used to pull the intake hose off the seacock and stick it in a bucket of antifreeze and suck it through until pink came out the exhau
That’s what I do, too. It seems to work just fine, and I use about 1-1/2
gallons of pure -50F non-toxic antifreeze in the process.
Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^(
On Nov 14, 2013, at 9:46 AM, Eric Frank wrote:
> A possible sim
I am surprised how little antifreeze some of you use. I put 18 l (5 US gal -
two large jugs) through my engine. At about $10 at Home Depot, this is a very
cheap insurance. Antifreeze mixes up with water in the heat exchanger and the
muffler, so you want to have quite a bit to flush this out. Di
g the
level. In a minute or so an entire gallon has gone through, I kill the engine
and am done. Is this procedure not good?
Eric Frank
Cat'sPaw
> Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 10:03:21 -0500
> From: "Bill Coleman"
> To:
> Subject: Re: Stus-List winterizing engine
>
David,
Have you seen this:
http://forums.catalina.sailboatowners.com/showthread.php?t=136339? I know that
this is not a C&C, but winterisation is pretty much the same.
It still requires pulling the intake hose off the through-hull, though. But
mine is reasonably easy to take off.
I used this
water
drain out.
Petar Horvatic
Sundowner
76 C&C 38MkII
Newport, RI
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Knecht
Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 9:47 AM
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Subject: Stus-List winterizing engine
I am planning to win
David
Here's what I do with my M4-30.
Take the raw water hose off at the pump end (one clamp). Install another
section of hose (about 4 feet long) to the pump and run that to a bucket on
the cabin sole. Fill the bucket with fresh water and start the engine.
Keep the bucket as full as possible w
con1
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of David
Knecht
Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 9:47 AM
To: CnC CnC discussion list
Subject: Stus-List winterizing engine
I am planning to winterize my engine this weekend and it is the first time
with the Universal M4-30. O
this helps,
Greg
87 - 33-2.
Halifax
From: David Knecht
Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 10:47 AM
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Subject: Stus-List winterizing engine
I am planning to winterize my engine this weekend and it is the first time with
the Universal M4-30
The easiest solution I have installed is to put a barbed tee fitting in the sea
water intake line with a length of hose with a shut off valve on the empty
barb. To run antifreeze through, simply close the seawater intake, open the
valve on the new piece of hose and put the end of the hose in a b
I am planning to winterize my engine this weekend and it is the first time with the Universal M4-30. On my older 34, I used to pull the intake hose off the seacock and stick it in a bucket of antifreeze and suck it through until pink came out the exhaust. That was always a pain to get the hose of
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