Does anyone have recent experience with replacing standing rigging on a C&C 40 or 41 that could provide a rough estimate of cost to do and how was cost broken down between materials and installation? Thks Please show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help
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Hey everyone--especially those on this list whose boats are approaching 'old
Hey everyone--especially those on this list whose boats are approaching 'old
age!'
My 1995 C&C 36 XL/kcb is now 26 years old and has been in brackish water for
her entire life--which has been either at the dock or club racing in the NC
sounds where the air is mostly light and the heat is often o
If we end up pulling the mast, I'll definitely measure it all, and inspect
everything up top (and I'm sure there will be more questions...) The
terminals and wire at the deck look good. I can't imagine them being
original, but the owner from 1985-2016 couldn't be certain if he'd done all
the shroud
Rod fails catastrophically, 1x19 shows signs. Rust stains are the
terminals a d broken strands. Inspect... You'll probably be fine.
Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD
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> I forgot to menti
Call riggingonly.com. See what they will do for you. With the rig down,
you can measure everything and have them duplicate it. You cn also ship it
to them for duplication.
Dennis C.
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> Hello all,
>
> The 3
I forgot to mention the stays are 1/19 SS, not rod.
For NDT testing, are you referring to dye penetrant or ultrasonic testing?
Dye penetrant I could do myself I suppose; ultrasonic sounds expensive...
As we're only coastal cruising for now, I'm inclined to leave the rigging
unless I can be assure
I had my entire mast rebuilt from the ground up. ~$20k. Plan on about
$1000 per rod stay. You can do dyform for about $200 less and regular 1x19
for about $200 less than dyform.
I don't think Marlon is capable of being disassembled. I lube mine with
the same grease that I use on the max prop o
Subject:
Stus-List Standing rigging replacement on 35-2 Hello all,The 35-2 we are about
to purchase has standing rigging of unknown age, although it appears to be
solid. There is a fellow at the club where the boat is currently located who
does rigging, and is going to give me a quote. As the boat is
Check Forespar's site for advice on lubricating Marelon seacocks.
You probably know not to do any maintenance work before getting approval from
seller.
Last thought. My boat has Marelon seacocks and I leave them closed whenever I'm
not on the boat. When I am aboard, I open only the ones in use;
Take the through hulls apart, and clean them up. I just did that with one
of mine. Some people use a lubricant on them - mineral oil, teflon
lubricant, but I don't.
On my boat, I'd be more confident using the original rigging, than making
new rigging myself. Since it's easy enough for you to take
Hello all,
The 35-2 we are about to purchase has standing rigging of unknown age,
although it appears to be solid. There is a fellow at the club where the
boat is currently located who does rigging, and is going to give me a
quote. As the boat is already being hauled and put on the hard for 2 week
Thanks John and Maryann,
I have the butyl tape already for this summer to do the job. Was just
making sure. I pretty much have to rebed everything on the boat. I guess I
have to start somewhere.
Christian
Peer Gyth
1980 C&C 34
Saugatuck, CT
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I have a small leak at the chain plate. Anybody tried to fix this with
something else
I built new covers from stainless.
Gary 30-1
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I have a small leak at the chain plate. Anybody
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>> I think that the collective wisdom is to use the butyl tape
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>> Marek
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s to use the butyl tape
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> Marek
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> I have a small leak at the chain plate. Any
I think that the collective wisdom is to use the butyl tape
Marek
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I have a small leak at the chain plate. Anybody tried to fix
I have a small leak at the chain plate. Anybody tried to fix this with
something else than putting caulking around the base?
Christian
Peer Gynt II
C&C 34 1980
Saugatuck, CT
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Mark, Most turnbuckles are made of bronze with a chrome coating. They
should not show any sign of rust. The studs and toggles ends may show some
sign of rust but it should clean off very easily with any good metal polish.
As for the 1X19 wire I recommend that you get the rigger who put i
Thanks Josh. What worries me is the spiral rust running up all the shrouds and
the backstay. Has anyone ever seen something like this? It seems like perhaps
one strand in the line is rusting. It's like a barber pole or a candy cane
stripe.
Thanks,
Mark
On Nov 12, 2016, at 11:37 PM, Josh
As you mentioned the tools used to cut and crimp the terminals are usually
carbon steel. During the tooling process some of those iron ions transfer
to the tooled item and subsequently rust. If the rig was just replaced I
would say that it is most likely that. Most chandleries sell bronze wool
w
Hello All,
Less than a year ago I had the standing rigging replaced on our C&C 25.
Recently I noticed some rust on the turnbuckles. Also, there is rust on the
lines that runs in a spiral pattern all the way up. I called our local rigger
and he offered to take a look, but be's been so busy th
You can debate this all you want, but
they are unsafe for standing rigging. The manufacturer agrees.
They do not work the same as Sta-lok and Norseman.
From the Quick attach instructions:
Quick Attach™ Installation
Instructions & Information
The spec sheet for the Suncor toggles says the working load limit of the
assembly is limited by the working load limit if the wire you are using. IIRC,
that is basically the same statement made for the Sta-lok and Norseman fittings
I've used in the rigging of my 25 and my 38.
Rick Brass
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I was thinking of replacing my standing rigging on my 26. I am thinking I can
put it in a box
Swaged fittings are not comparable to these fittings. A swaged fitting
has a huge amount of surface area contact between fitting and wire
compared to the quick-attach. There is even a known reliability
difference between machine swaged and hand swaged that strongly favors
machine swaged.
I ti
Bill,
Swaged fittings don't spread the wires to distribute the load either. It
sounds like maybe you didn't tighten the cones enough. I did some
destructive testing and had to physically beat the fitting apart to get the
wedges separated from the cone.
Josh
On Oct 24, 2014 6:22 AM, "Bill Bina v
I can tell you why. The quick-attach can SLIP far too easily. Happened
on my Babystay when I cranked the backstay. When I let off the backstay,
the previously firmly tightened babystay was flopping around. The wire
goes straight into the fitting with no bends or "spread out" of the
strands like
I looked it up, the quick attach fittings are no longer advised for
standing rigging though I can't understand why. And I was wrong they won't
work with rod but WILL work with all other types of wire.
Josh
On Oct 23, 2014 9:23 PM, "Josh Muckley" wrote:
> At the time I used them they were market
At the time I used them they were marketed as competition to stay-lock. If
I remember correctly they were guaranteed to between 90 and 100% of the
wire rope break strength. I up sized all the wire and pin fittings. IIRC
Break strength of 5000, SWL up to 3500. Tensioned to #1100.
IIRC the fitti
Having used Suncor for my lifelines where they worked well, I would not
consider them as safe for standing rigging. They are very easy to work
with, but they are not nearly as secure as sta-lok fittings. I don't
think Suncor intends or markets them for high tension shrouds and stays.
Bill Bina
Not a C&C but I did the standing rigging on my MacGregor 26C. I used
Suncor fittings. Worked great.
http://www.suncorstainless.com/quick-attachtrade
Josh Muckley
S/ V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
S/V Lasie
1990 MacGregor 26C
Solomons, MD
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is very good. Since it would be
> by freight location may not matter much in Canada. FYI
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Subject: Stus-List Standing rigging replacement
I was thinking of replacing my standing rigging on my 26. I am thinking I can
put it in a box and ship it to wherever so they can duplicate what I have now.
I haven't really noticed anything wrong with it other than the threaded end for
David,
I replaced all my standing rigging on my C&C 26 about 3 years ago.
Forestay, backstay, cap shrouds and lower shrouds including all new turnbuckles
from these guys on Vancouver Island:
http://www.blanchardrigging.com/
Packed one example of each in a box and sent it off.
Cost was $1200.
s
I was thinking of replacing my standing rigging on my 26. I am thinking I can
put it in a box and ship it to wherever so they can duplicate what I have now.
I haven't really noticed anything wrong with it other than the threaded end for
the turnbuckle on one of my lowers is bent slightly. I am s
om
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If you help anyone with a Nonsuch put up or take down their mast you will
see that the masts are incredibly heavy and that their section at the top is
much lighter than at the bottom, eg cantilever design. I
#x27;s sailing ability.
Chuck
Resolute
1990 C&C 34R
Atlantic City, NJ
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Dwight,
The Freedom boats use an unstayed r
ds to unload
> itself.
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> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
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>> From: dwight veinot
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>>Over the last few weeks we have had several posts on standing rigging,
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And if one unstayed rig is not enough, got for two!
http://www.nigelirens.com/FRAMEcruising.htm
Which, as a side note, was built in Lunenburg by Covey Island
b
s or shrouds.
Isn't science wonderful?
Rich
(mobile)
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Over the last few weeks we
without stays or shrouds.
Isn't science wonderful?
Rich
(mobile)
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Over the last few wee
dwight veinot
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Over the last few weeks we have had several posts on standing rigging,
including shrouds and shroud tensions, baby stays, check stays, back stays,
fore stays and also on the mast i
well.
Steve Hood
S/V Diamond Girl
C&C 34
Lions Head ON
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Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 12:44:43 -0300
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>Over the last few weeks we have had several posts on standing rigging,
>including shrouds and shroud tensions, baby stays, check stays, back stays,
>fore stays and also on the mast itself and t
It is supported by a big structure in the hull.
Look at it this way: you want to build a balcony off the side of your
house. You can support it at the outside edge, typically with posts but
you could use cables to suspend it. That's what we have. Alternatively
you could cantilever it off th
Over the last few weeks we have had several posts on standing rigging,
including shrouds and shroud tensions, baby stays, check stays, back stays,
fore stays and also on the mast itself and the spreaders on our C&C designed
boats.
All this stuff needs regular inspection and sometimes insurance com
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