Thanks for that Graham

Now I am really glad I opened the discussion here on unstayed masts...always
intrigued me and now even more...I like that schooner design

Anyway, from what I read those unstayed masts are really big...never sailed
a boat with such a mast so I need to find a way to get on board one for an
afternoon at least...during Chester Race week, coming up next week I think,
Chester Cat, a Nonsuch 30 I think, has done well in her class, Cruising
Class, for the last many years and she is very quick downwind...as an added
benefit I understand that a 30 foot Nonsuch has much more space below decks
than my 35...I need to check that out...what's better, sailing Nonsuch or
sailing a C&C 35 with jib only, the mainsail on my 35 is a PITA and a lot of
work for me when I am alone or sailing as a couple, especially packing it up
at the end of the day...I can put my jib to bed by simply pulling on a
string so I think it reasonable to expect that my main sail won't suffer UV
damage early in its life

Dwight Veinot
C&C 35 MKII, Alianna
Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS

-----Original Message-----
From: cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]
On Behalf Of Graham Collins
Sent: August 11, 2012 10:03 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List standing rigging

And if one unstayed rig is not enough, got for two!

http://www.nigelirens.com/FRAMEcruising.htm

Which, as a side note, was built in Lunenburg by Covey Island 
boatworks.  Not only are the masts unstayed, they rotate.

Graham Collins
Secret Plans
C&C 35-III #11


Rich Knowles wrote:
> Dwight
>
> The unsupported Nonsuch masts that I have worked on are tapered two-piece
aluminum structures that are much heavier in section than regular stayed
masts. The Nonsuch round shape is also stronger than an ellipse or other
mast shape. Simply put, they are engineered to do what they do without stays
or shrouds.
>
> Isn't science wonderful?
>
> Rich
> (mobile)
>
> From: cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]
> On Behalf Of dwight veinot
> Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2012 11:25 AM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Stus-List standing rigging
>
> Over the last few weeks we have had several posts on standing rigging,
> including shrouds and shroud tensions, baby stays, check stays, back
stays,
> fore stays and also on the mast itself and the spreaders on our C&C
designed
> boats.
>
> All this stuff needs regular inspection and sometimes insurance companies
> insist that parts, in particular shrouds or turnbuckles be replaced after
an
> unspecified number of years just in case.
>
> I notice that those big Nonsuch boats carry a huge mainsail on a mast that
> as far as I can see is unsupported by any standing rigging.
>
> My question is how that unsupported rig carries the forces on it without
> breaking while our sloop rigged C&C's need such relatively elaborate
> standing rigging.
>
> Anyone know??
>
> Dwight Veinot
> C&C 35 MKII, Alianna
> Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
>
>
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