Re: Stus-List lightning strike

2019-07-10 Thread Steve Staten via CnC-List
Commit an Old Testament sin, Receive an Old Testament punishment… Steve Staten “C’Est La Vie” C&C 26 Langley, OK ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support

Re: Stus-List lightning strike

2019-07-10 Thread dwight veinot via CnC-List
Right Alliana sufferedjust such a lightning strike 3 years back. Took out VHF radio and antenna, chartplotter, knotmeter and music radio. Power was off to everything with the big make before break swith also off. I was able to settle an insurance claim for new gear but i would much prefer to have t

Re: Stus-List lightning strike

2019-07-09 Thread Brent via CnC-List
It’s all theoretical. Brent Driedger. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 9, 2019, at 6:01 PM, Charlie Nelson via CnC-List > wrote: > > I doubt that ANY grounding technique would be able to ensure that the > instantaneous power from a lightning strike as so well illustrated in the > video could

Re: Stus-List lightning strike

2019-07-09 Thread Charlie Nelson via CnC-List
I doubt that ANY grounding technique would be able to ensure that the  instantaneous power from a lightning strike as so well illustrated in the video  could be ‘directed’ anywhere other than where it was going to go anyway! Keep your insurance up to date, get the h... off the boat and let nature d

Stus-List lightning strike

2019-07-09 Thread Bill Coleman via CnC-List
This may be old news already, but quite a lightning strike in Boston! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOB_0hq4JsQ Bill Coleman Erie, PA ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is great

Stus-List Lightning Damage was Keel treatment

2018-05-04 Thread Bill Dakin via CnC-List
This has intrigued me since I inspected the keel boats the very first time on Tapestry. The bonding to the keel boats was made with two insulated copper cables (looks to be 2 or 3 AWG). Poking around I found this interesting presentation case study and product solutions. http://www.marinelightni

Re: Stus-List Lightning protection by design?

2016-04-29 Thread Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List
nWild CheriC&C 30-1STL From: Charles Nelson via CnC-List To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Charles Nelson Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2016 9:14 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Lightning protection by design? After you have done what has been suggested, you have taken all 'reasonable&#x

Re: Stus-List Lightning protection by design?

2016-04-29 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2016 22:15 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Charles Nelson Subject: Re: Stus-List Lightning protection by design? After you have done what has been suggested, you have taken all 'reasonable' precautions to minimize the chances of serious damage from a strike IMHO

Re: Stus-List Lightning protection by design?

2016-04-28 Thread Charles Nelson via CnC-List
day. > > Jake > > Jake Brodersen > C&C 35 Mk-III “Midnight Mistress” > Hampton VA > > > > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Saur > via CnC-List > Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2016 09:54 > To: cnc-l

Re: Stus-List Lightning protection by design?

2016-04-28 Thread Jake Brodersen via CnC-List
:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Saur via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2016 09:54 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Chuck Saur Subject: Stus-List Lightning protection by design? Hello gang. Thinking of warm weather and reading the great article on lightning protection by

Re: Stus-List Lightning protection by design?

2016-04-28 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
FYI good info on this site: http://www.marinelightning.com/Siedarc.htm From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Tim Goodyear via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2016 10:01 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Tim Goodyear; Chuck Saur Subject: Re: Stus-List Lightning

Re: Stus-List Lightning protection by design?

2016-04-28 Thread Tim Goodyear via CnC-List
I think you're close, but I'd make sure of the connection between mast and keel bolt. The mast is key for conductance (aluminium is a much better conductor than stainless steel). ABYC would require a 4AWG primary conductor for lightning protection; a short strap from the mast to keel bolt would

Re: Stus-List Lightning protection by design?

2016-04-28 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
list@cnc-list.com Cc: Chuck Saur Subject: Stus-List Lightning protection by design? Hello gang. Thinking of warm weather and reading the great article on lightning protection by Glen Miller (thank you whoever sent the link). I could absorb most of the intent, although some of the detail was a li

Stus-List Lightning protection by design?

2016-04-28 Thread Chuck Saur via CnC-List
Hello gang. Thinking of warm weather and reading the great article on lightning protection by Glen Miller (thank you whoever sent the link). I could absorb most of the intent, although some of the detail was a little over my head. One of the most critical points he made was to connect the mast to

Re: Stus-List Lightning

2016-02-27 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Check the receive side of nearby VHF radios. Dennis C. On Feb 27, 2016 6:30 PM, "Brent Driedger via CnC-List" < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Good evening. Last summer my neighbour's Aloha 27 took a lightning strike > to the masthead which fried the VHF antenna (and VHF), cooked the antenna >

Stus-List Lightning

2016-02-27 Thread Brent Driedger via CnC-List
Good evening. Last summer my neighbour's Aloha 27 took a lightning strike to the masthead which fried the VHF antenna (and VHF), cooked the antenna wire quick connect but caused no other visible damage. Small strike perhaps. Luckily I suffered no damage from the strike 8 feet away. Has any o

Re: Stus-List Lightning strikes/storing handheld gps ..radios etc.

2014-01-17 Thread Brent Driedger
With the talk of GPS etc storage in ovens, it got me thinking about lightning strikes in general. My 27 Mk5 has some fat welding cables bonding the shroud chain plates on each side to the largest of my keel bolts. I hope this is adequate protection but of course all lightning protection is purel

Re: Stus-List Lightning on the hard

2012-09-03 Thread Rich Knowles
You have a point, so to speak. Rich On 2012-09-02, at 23:57, Colin Kilgour wrote: > Rich, > > If you're like Wally and you want to avoid lightning on the hard... > simply have a few more tequilas before going on deck. > > Cheers, > Colin > > > On 8/30/12, Rich Knowles wrote: >> Finally I

Re: Stus-List Lightning on the hard

2012-09-02 Thread Colin Kilgour
Rich, If you're like Wally and you want to avoid lightning on the hard... simply have a few more tequilas before going on deck. Cheers, Colin On 8/30/12, Rich Knowles wrote: > Finally I understand the subject "Lightning on the hard" > > Rich Knowles > Mistyped by thumb. > > > On 2012-08-29, at

Re: Stus-List Lightning on the hard

2012-09-01 Thread Jim Watts
m [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] > On Behalf Of djhaug...@juno.com > Sent: August 30, 2012 11:14 AM > To: w...@wbryant.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List Lightning on the hard > > What about the cows Wally? > > > -- Original Message ---

Re: Stus-List Lightning on the hard

2012-08-30 Thread dwight veinot
Re: Stus-List Lightning on the hard What about the cows Wally? -- Original Message -- From: Wally Bryant To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Lightning on the hard Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 21:25:24 + I'm going to be flippant: "Man, you understand lighti

Re: Stus-List Lightning on the hard

2012-08-30 Thread djhaug...@juno.com
What about the cows Wally? -- Original Message -- From: Wally Bryant To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Lightning on the hard Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 21:25:24 + I'm going to be flippant: "Man, you understand lighting?" I've listened to thi

Re: Stus-List Lightning on the hard

2012-08-30 Thread Tim Sippel
Men are hard to re-gruntle Tim -Original Message- From: cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Wally Bryant Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 8:17 PM To: w...@wbryant.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Lightning on the hard Of

Re: Stus-List Lightning on the hard

2012-08-29 Thread Rich Knowles
Finally I understand the subject "Lightning on the hard" Rich Knowles Mistyped by thumb. On 2012-08-29, at 21:17, Wally Bryant wrote: > The women as usual, were happy but the men were disgruntled. ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album htt

Re: Stus-List Lightning on the hard

2012-08-29 Thread Martin DeYoung
, August 29, 2012 5:17 PM To: w...@wbryant.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Lightning on the hard Of course, as I wrote that, we just had three lighting strikes followed by immediate thunder that would make a Canadian shiver in his timbers. I, of course, leapt on deck to go dancing in

Re: Stus-List Lightning on the hard

2012-08-29 Thread Chris Price
You wish!! - Original Message - From: "Wally Bryant" To: w...@wbryant.com, cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 8:17:12 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Lightning on the hard Of course, as I wrote that, we just had three lighting strikes followed by immedia

Re: Stus-List Lightning on the hard

2012-08-29 Thread Wally Bryant
Of course, as I wrote that, we just had three lighting strikes followed by immediate thunder that would make a Canadian shiver in his timbers. I, of course, leapt on deck to go dancing in the rain, only to discover that there are actually other people in the world who may or may not want to wa

Re: Stus-List Lightning on the hard

2012-08-29 Thread Jack Brennan
: Stus-List Lightning on the hard Jack, Thanks for the great link. Based on Ewen Thomson’s study I should increase Calypso’s mast to keel bolt conductors to larger than #4 and keep her in salt water, in the PNW and not Florida or Costa Rica. Martin Calypso 1971 C&C 43 Sea

Re: Stus-List Lightning on the hard

2012-08-29 Thread Martin DeYoung
From: cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Jack Brennan Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 4:31 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Lightning on the hard Ewen Thomson is the acknowledged U.S. expert on lightning and sailboats. He used to be

Re: Stus-List Lightning on the hard

2012-08-29 Thread Jack Brennan
capitalist and started a company that provides expensive lightning protection systems for megayachts. http://www.marinelightning.com/index.html From: Frederick G Street Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 5:31 PM To: w...@wbryant.com ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Lightning on the

Re: Stus-List Lightning on the hard

2012-08-29 Thread Hedonistic Values
That was fantastic. Thanks for the laugh :) On Aug 29, 2012, at 5:25 PM, Wally Bryant wrote: > I'm going to be flippant: "Man, you understand lighting?" > > I've listened to this debate for so long that I am totally fatalistic about > it. Sheesh. My mast is keel stepped, onto an aluminum pl

Re: Stus-List Lightning on the hard

2012-08-29 Thread Martin DeYoung
ve I will use this to explain to the Mrs why my crew is smells and looks better than usual. Martin Calypso 1971 C&C 43 Seattle -Original Message- From: cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Wally Bryant Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 2:25

Re: Stus-List Lightning on the hard

2012-08-29 Thread Frederick G Street
It's rocket science: http://oai.dtic.mil/oai/oai?verb=getRecord&metadataPrefix=html&identifier=ADP002181 Here's a "bootleg" copy of the ABYC standards for lightning protection: www.marinesurveyorschool.org/...files/Lightening%20Protection.pdf Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Lan

Re: Stus-List Lightning on the hard

2012-08-29 Thread Wally Bryant
I'm going to be flippant: "Man, you understand lighting?" I've listened to this debate for so long that I am totally fatalistic about it. Sheesh. My mast is keel stepped, onto an aluminum plate that is bolted into my lead keel. I think that's the shortest path to ground. Do this. Do that