Re: Stus-List Soliciting Advice on 33-2 Battery Complement

2016-03-05 Thread Doug Welch via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2016 6:51 PM To: C&C List Cc: Josh Muckley Subject: Re: Stus-List Soliciting Advice on 33-2 Battery Complement  Easy Peter, my response must have gotten stuck in the outbox.  I actually wrote it prior to both your responses.  I was not trying to contradict you.  In fa

Re: Stus-List Soliciting Advice on 33-2 Battery Complement

2016-03-04 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List
-list.com] On Behalf Of Josh Muckley via CnC-List Sent: Friday, March 04, 2016 6:51 PM To: C&C List Cc: Josh Muckley Subject: Re: Stus-List Soliciting Advice on 33-2 Battery Complement Easy Peter, my response must have gotten stuck in the outbox. I actually wrote it prior to both

Re: Stus-List Soliciting Advice on 33-2 Battery Complement

2016-03-04 Thread Frederick G Street via CnC-List
You’re absolutely right — I stand corrected. Although it’s a little higher, around 2.1V, going a fully-charged 12-volt battery at rest a voltage of 12.6V. My brain was thinking dry cells… :^) — Fred Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI

Re: Stus-List Soliciting Advice on 33-2 Battery Complement

2016-03-04 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
h Muckley via CnC-List > *Sent:* Friday, March 04, 2016 10:29 AM > *To:* C&C List > *Cc:* Josh Muckley > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Soliciting Advice on 33-2 Battery Complement > > > 6v would be fine in series but from what I can tell from the > manufacturer's writte

Re: Stus-List Soliciting Advice on 33-2 Battery Complement

2016-03-04 Thread Doug Welch via CnC-List
your post aligns with my understanding with a slight correction. The individual cells are ~2 volts in series (6 X 2 volts = 12 volts) . On some of the older surette batteries you could actually change out individual cells.  I am still trying to figure out why promariner insists on only connectin

Re: Stus-List Soliciting Advice on 33-2 Battery Complement

2016-03-04 Thread dwight veinot via CnC-List
around here covered and secured in leak proof battery boxes is what surveyors require Dwight Veinot C&C 35 MKII, *Alianna* Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS d.ve...@bellaliant.net On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 3:39 PM, Doug Welch via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > absolutely agree about keep

Re: Stus-List Soliciting Advice on 33-2 Battery Complement

2016-03-04 Thread jackbrennan via CnC-List
chie, 1974 Bristol 30 Tierra Verde, Fl. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Tab®|PRO Original message From: Frederick G Street via CnC-List Date:03/04/2016 5:33 PM (GMT-05:00) To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Frederick G Street Subject: Re: Stus-List Soliciting Advice on 33-2 Bat

Re: Stus-List Soliciting Advice on 33-2 Battery Complement

2016-03-04 Thread Frederick G Street via CnC-List
Peter — please remember that six-volt and twelve-volt batteries are made from 1.5-volt cells; the only difference is the number of cells wired in series to make up the battery. Two six-volt batteries wired in series are functionally equivalent to a twelve-volt battery. I can understand if that

Re: Stus-List Soliciting Advice on 33-2 Battery Complement

2016-03-04 Thread Peter Fell via CnC-List
p;C List Cc: Josh Muckley Subject: Re: Stus-List Soliciting Advice on 33-2 Battery Complement 6v would be fine in series but from what I can tell from the manufacturer's written and verbal guidance, the charger is limited to a certain maximum battery size (group 31)... I assume Amp-hr limit

Re: Stus-List Soliciting Advice on 33-2 Battery Complement

2016-03-04 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
6v would be fine in series but from what I can tell from the manufacturer's written and verbal guidance, the charger is limited to a certain maximum battery size (group 31)... I assume Amp-hr limit. A group 31 is about 105 AH. So if you are using two 6v @ 105 AH batteries then it seems you would

Re: Stus-List Soliciting Advice on 33-2 Battery Complement

2016-03-04 Thread Peter Fell via CnC-List
would be about 125 amp-hour. Two 6V GC2 golf cart in series would be about 230 amp-hour. From: Frederick G Street via CnC-List Sent: Friday, March 04, 2016 9:55 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Frederick G Street Subject: Re: Stus-List Soliciting Advice on 33-2 Battery Complement Golf cart 6V

Re: Stus-List Soliciting Advice on 33-2 Battery Complement

2016-03-04 Thread Frederick G Street via CnC-List
Golf cart 6V batteries should still be okay, as long as they’re connected in series pairs to get the voltage up to 12V. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( > On Mar 4, 2016, at 11:50 AM, Peter Fell via CnC-List > wrote: > > I aske

Re: Stus-List Soliciting Advice on 33-2 Battery Complement

2016-03-04 Thread Peter Fell via CnC-List
List Soliciting Advice on 33-2 Battery Complement The 2 group 27 in parallel is covered in the manual but only as an example for the 2-bank charger. All the 3-bank charger examples given are 24V applications. I don’t think this is an issue. 6-volt golf cart batteries are not an option since

Re: Stus-List Soliciting Advice on 33-2 Battery Complement

2016-03-02 Thread dwight veinot via CnC-List
Surette's are very good quality deep cycle batteries...check to make sure they are bad before you toss them Dwight Veinot C&C 35 MKII, Alianna Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS d.ve...@bellaliant.net On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 2:19 PM, Doug Welch via CnC-List wrote: > Our new (to us) 33-2 has a coupl

Re: Stus-List Soliciting Advice on 33-2 Battery Complement

2016-03-01 Thread Peter Fell via CnC-List
a CnC-List Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2016 10:18 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: doug.we...@rogers.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Soliciting Advice on 33-2 Battery Complement ok thanks all. another question. is it possible to start the 20GMF with a handle? I think i will get the sure

Re: Stus-List Soliciting Advice on 33-2 Battery Complement

2016-03-01 Thread Doug Welch via CnC-List
Subject: Re: Stus-List Soliciting Advice on 33-2 Battery Complement ok thanks all. another question. is it possible to start the 20GMF with a handle?  I think i will get the surettes load tested and decide whether or not to replace after that and replace the starter battery with a group 24 (if it fits

Re: Stus-List Soliciting Advice on 33-2 Battery Complement

2016-02-28 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
l > Sidney, BC > Cygnet > C&C 27 MkIII > > > *From:* Doug Welch via CnC-List > *Sent:* Sunday, February 28, 2016 10:18 AM > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com > *Cc:* doug.we...@rogers.com > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Soliciting Advice on 33-2 Battery Complement > &g

Re: Stus-List Soliciting Advice on 33-2 Battery Complement

2016-02-28 Thread Peter Fell via CnC-List
y 28, 2016 10:18 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: doug.we...@rogers.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Soliciting Advice on 33-2 Battery Complement ok thanks all. another question. is it possible to start the 20GMF with a handle? I think i will get the surettes load tested and decide whether or not

Re: Stus-List Soliciting Advice on 33-2 Battery Complement

2016-02-28 Thread Doug Welch via CnC-List
y 28, 2016 10:18 AMTo: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: doug.we...@rogers.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Soliciting Advice on 33-2 Battery Complement ok thanks all. another question. is it possible to start the 20GMF with a handle?  I think i will get the surettes load tested and decide whether or not to rep

Re: Stus-List Soliciting Advice on 33-2 Battery Complement

2016-02-28 Thread Peter Fell via CnC-List
distributed charging scheme programmed into the Pro-Sport. Peter Fell Sidney, BC Cygnet C&C 27 MkIII From: Doug Welch via CnC-List Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2016 10:18 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: doug.we...@rogers.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Soliciting Advice on 33-2 Battery Complement ok th

Re: Stus-List Soliciting Advice on 33-2 Battery Complement

2016-02-28 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Yes it is possible to start the GM line with a handle. It is a special design which drives a set of gears on the front of the engine, not the flywheel directly. You need to have the decompression levers held in order to get the inertia then quickly release the lever while still cranking. The desi

Re: Stus-List Soliciting Advice on 33-2 Battery Complement

2016-02-28 Thread Doug Welch via CnC-List
ok thanks all. another question. is it possible to start the 20GMF with a handle?  I think i will get the surettes load tested and decide whether or not to replace after that and replace the starter battery with a group 24 (if it fits). We are also hoping to do more cruising and spending time on

Re: Stus-List Soliciting Advice on 33-2 Battery Complement

2016-02-28 Thread ed vanderkruk via CnC-List
We have two T12 136ah ( slightly larger and heavier than a group 27 ) Rolls house batteries which are now in their 12th year of service. I was thinking they were near their end of life but a battery equalization last year seems to have given them a new lease on life. We replaced a Rolls starting

Re: Stus-List Soliciting Advice on 33-2 Battery Complement

2016-02-27 Thread robert via CnC-List
I have two Group 27 deep cycle batteries ( 8 year old Great Northern's)..have left them on the boat from day onejust checked them today, both were 12.5V.gave them a short charge (2 beers, one beer, one battery charge). Another club member, with Group 27's (don't know the brand) ar

Re: Stus-List Soliciting Advice on 33-2 Battery Complement

2016-02-27 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
I tried Interstate batteries years ago. Lasted 14 months. Went back to Delco Voyagers. Routinely get 7 plus years out of the Voyagers. Probe around the fishing sites. You'll find lots of positive reviews on Voyagers by bass fishermen who love them. Dennis C. On Feb 27, 2016 11:20 AM, "Doug We

Re: Stus-List Soliciting Advice on 33-2 Battery Complement

2016-02-27 Thread Doug Welch via CnC-List
absolutely agree about keeping batteries covered. a friend of mine dropped a wrench that shorted out the terminals. it very quickly glowed red, welded itself to the terminals and caught fire. only quick work with a fire extinguisher save the boat.  On Saturday, February 27, 2016 2:08 PM, B

Re: Stus-List Soliciting Advice on 33-2 Battery Complement

2016-02-27 Thread Ken Heaton via CnC-List
Surette (Rolls in the USA) are very good batteries (perhaps the best wet batteries out there) with longer than average life (and higher than average prices to match) and you shouldn't be in a hurry to replace them unless you are sure they have been damaged. Ken H. Established in 1935, Surrette Ba

Stus-List Soliciting Advice on 33-2 Battery Complement

2016-02-27 Thread Bradley Lumgair via CnC-List
Our 33 MkII has 2 group 27 deep cycle batteries that are 10 and 12 yrs old, still starting and looking after the refrigerator, stereo, radio and nav lights on "extended" day sails. We're always plugged in when at dock. We select one battery for starting and the other for running accessories, and

Stus-List Soliciting Advice on 33-2 Battery Complement

2016-02-27 Thread Doug Welch via CnC-List
Our new (to us) 33-2 has a couple of Surette Group 27 Deep Cycle Batteries of indeterminate age in plastic battery boxes with no lid and a Canadian Tire 22NF starting Battery (In what looks like a home made wooden battery box).  My first instinct is to replace the deep cycles with Interstates and