Re: Stus-List Darker Smoke, Harder to Start

2015-05-26 Thread sammythegreat2
om] On Behalf Of Edd Schillay via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 9:52 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Edd Schillay Subject: Re: Stus-List Darker Smoke, Harder to Start All, Did a bunch of tests this weekend and took one lister’s advice to burn off some carbon buildup. In the end, it appears

Re: Stus-List Darker Smoke, Harder to Start

2015-05-26 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List
] On Behalf Of Edd Schillay via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 9:52 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Edd Schillay Subject: Re: Stus-List Darker Smoke, Harder to Start All, Did a bunch of tests this weekend and took one lister’s advice to burn off some carbon buildup. In the end, it

Re: Stus-List Darker Smoke, Harder to Start

2015-05-26 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
26, 2015 2:27 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: S Thomas Subject: Re: Stus-List Darker Smoke, Harder to Start The thing that convinces me that it is either the battery itself or resistance in the wiring somewhere is the fact that he gets quick starts and fast cranking as soon as he switches in

Re: Stus-List Darker Smoke, Harder to Start

2015-05-26 Thread S Thomas via CnC-List
d like the main source of the problem to me. Steve - Original Message - From: Knowles Rich via CnC-List To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Knowles Rich Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 12:58 Subject: Re: Stus-List Darker Smoke, Harder to Start Also suggest hauling the starter mot

Re: Stus-List Darker Smoke, Harder to Start

2015-05-26 Thread Knowles Rich via CnC-List
Also suggest hauling the starter motor and get it checked out. They don't live forever. RK > On May 26, 2015, at 08:50, Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List > wrote: > > If everything is good, then this battery can crank that engine without > breaking a sweat, even if the engine does not start ea

Re: Stus-List Darker Smoke, Harder to Start

2015-05-26 Thread svpegasus38
Edd,It looks like you have a deep cycle battery. For engine starting you want a starting battery. They are measured in CCA cold cranking amps. The plates are thinner to allow a higher amp draw.  Doug MountjoysvPegasusLF38 just west of Ballard, WA. -- Original message--From

Re: Stus-List Darker Smoke, Harder to Start

2015-05-26 Thread Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List
If everything is good, then this battery can crank that engine without breaking a sweat, even if the engine does not start easily and has to crank for a bit. New connections are not automatically good connections. Check resistance at every connection involved, and also measure voltage drop at t

Re: Stus-List Darker Smoke, Harder to Start

2015-05-26 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
I stand corrected! Joel On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 11:43 AM, Knowles Rich via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Also: A trojan T1275 is a deep cycle battery, according their website, and > may not be capable of delivering the full power required to start a > recalcitrant engine. > > Rich K

Re: Stus-List Darker Smoke, Harder to Start

2015-05-26 Thread Knowles Rich via CnC-List
Also: A trojan T1275 is a deep cycle battery, according their website, and may not be capable of delivering the full power required to start a recalcitrant engine. Rich Knowles Nanaimo, BC INDIGO LF38 Boatless! On May 26, 2015, at 08:40, Edd Schillay via CnC-List wrote: Joel, I have the

Re: Stus-List Darker Smoke, Harder to Start

2015-05-26 Thread Knowles Rich via CnC-List
homas C&C27 MKIII Port Stanley, ON - Original Message - From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> To: C&C List <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: Edd Schillay <mailto:e...@schillay.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 10:08 Subject: Re: Stus-Lis

Re: Stus-List Darker Smoke, Harder to Start

2015-05-26 Thread Edd Schillay via CnC-List
Joel, I have the challenge that statement. When over 13 volts, the battery is in a charging state — power is being put into the battery from an alternator or external charging source. See this chart: https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-sjQa85Sqkts/UOiBZ_ESsXI/A1Y/kRSbJIGLZ7M/s403/12vbat

Re: Stus-List Darker Smoke, Harder to Start

2015-05-26 Thread Edd Schillay via CnC-List
Steve, That’s where I’m confused, to be honest — the spec sheet on the T-1275 is here: http://www.trojanbattery.com/pdf/datasheets/T1275_Trojan_Data_Sheets.pdf And, according to Josh, the engine can pull up to 175amps w

Re: Stus-List Darker Smoke, Harder to Start

2015-05-26 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
via CnC-List > *To:* C&C List > *Cc:* Edd Schillay > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 26, 2015 10:08 > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Darker Smoke, Harder to Start > > Josh, > > When just the T-1275 is engaged, it’s a slow to no churning. When I > combine with the House Bank, she’l

Re: Stus-List Darker Smoke, Harder to Start

2015-05-26 Thread S Thomas via CnC-List
t Stanley, ON - Original Message - From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List To: C&C List Cc: Edd Schillay Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 10:08 Subject: Re: Stus-List Darker Smoke, Harder to Start Josh, When just the T-1275 is engaged, it’s a slow to no churning. When I comb

Re: Stus-List Darker Smoke, Harder to Start

2015-05-26 Thread Edd Schillay via CnC-List
Josh, When just the T-1275 is engaged, it’s a slow to no churning. When I combine with the House Bank, she’ll start up. I know the specs of the engine and the T-1275 say it should work, but the numbers are close and, perhaps if the engine was new or in perfect condition it would, but the amps

Re: Stus-List Darker Smoke, Harder to Start

2015-05-26 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
What makes tou think you don't have enough juice? What are your syptoms? Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C&C 37+ Solomons, MD On May 26, 2015 9:51 AM, "Edd Schillay via CnC-List" wrote: > All, > > Did a bunch of tests this weekend and took one lister’s advice to burn off > some carbon buildup. In

Re: Stus-List Darker Smoke, Harder to Start

2015-05-26 Thread Edd Schillay via CnC-List
All, Did a bunch of tests this weekend and took one lister’s advice to burn off some carbon buildup. In the end, it appears my new Trojan T-1275 starting battery, despite what the numbers say, isn’t pushing out enough juice to get the 25 year-old Universal cranking, even at a full charge (12.7

Re: Stus-List Darker Smoke, Harder to Start

2015-05-25 Thread Chuck S via CnC-List
Edd, It's normal for dark smoke (unburned fuel) to exhaust if it takes longer to fire. Do you have glow plugs on your Universal like on mine? You may just need more glow plug time? Universal recommends, "Turn key on to energize electric fuel pump, shifter in neutral, thottle 1/3rd, hold the g

Re: Stus-List Darker smoke harder to start

2015-05-25 Thread Edd Schillay via CnC-List
Len, Interesting. I have an Universal M-35. All the best, Edd --- Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise NCC-1701-B C&C 37+ | City Island, NY www.StarshipSailing.com --- 914.332.4400 | Office 914.774.9767 | Mobile

Re: Stus-List Darker Smoke, Harder to Start

2015-05-25 Thread Jake Brodersen via CnC-List
: Monday, May 25, 2015 11:03 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Fred Hazzard Subject: Re: Stus-List Darker Smoke, Harder to Start What do the experts say about synthetic oil in diesels? Fred Hazzard S/V Fury C&C 44 Portland, Or On May 25, 2015 7:10 AM, "Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List

Re: Stus-List Darker Smoke, Harder to Start

2015-05-25 Thread Frederick G Street via CnC-List
I’m feeling lucky after my call on the bad engine ground leading to starting issues… :^) Maybe time to get the valves checked? Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI > On May 24, 2015, at 5:07 PM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List > wrote: > > Listers, > > I

Re: Stus-List Darker Smoke, Harder to Start

2015-05-25 Thread svpegasus38
5, 2015 11:03 AMTo: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Fred Hazzard Subject: Re: Stus-List Darker Smoke, Harder to Start What do the experts say about synthetic oil in diesels?Fred Hazzard S/V Fury C&C 44 Portland, OrOn May 25, 2015 7:10 AM, "Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List" wrote: most

Re: Stus-List Darker Smoke, Harder to Start

2015-05-25 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
am not the expert on oils. Marek From: Fred Hazzard via CnC-List Sent: Monday, May 25, 2015 11:03 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Fred Hazzard Subject: Re: Stus-List Darker Smoke, Harder to Start What do the experts say about synthetic oil in diesels? Fred Hazzard S/V Fury C&C 44 Port

Re: Stus-List Darker Smoke, Harder to Start

2015-05-25 Thread Bill Coleman via CnC-List
nce for the engine.   Marek 1994 C270, Legato Ottawa, on   From: Sam Salter via CnC-List Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2015 9:11 PM To: Jim Watts via CnC-List ; 1 CnC List Cc: sam.c.sal...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Darker Smoke, Harder to Start   Diesel engine oil is supposed to look black

Re: Stus-List Darker Smoke, Harder to Start

2015-05-25 Thread Fred Hazzard via CnC-List
ning > time, but this is a cheap insurance for the engine. > > Marek > 1994 C270, Legato > Ottawa, on > > *From:* Sam Salter via CnC-List > *Sent:* Sunday, May 24, 2015 9:11 PM > *To:* Jim Watts via CnC-List ; 1 CnC List > > *Cc:* sam.c.sal...@gmail.com > *Su

Re: Stus-List Darker Smoke, Harder to Start

2015-05-25 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
Cc: Jim Watts Subject: Re: Stus-List Darker Smoke, Harder to Start It's black. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift C&C 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 24 May 2015 at 16:59, Sam Salter via CnC-List wrote: What does bad lubrication oil look like? sam :-) From: S Thoma

Re: Stus-List Darker Smoke, Harder to Start

2015-05-24 Thread Sam Salter via CnC-List
5:01 PMTo: cnc-list@cnc-list.comReply To: cnc-list@cnc-list.comCc: S ThomasSubject: Re: Stus-List Darker Smoke, Harder to Start If it is cranking at the usual speed, then the compression might be off a bit in one of the cylinders. This can happen if one of the piston rings has got stuck over

Re: Stus-List Darker Smoke, Harder to Start

2015-05-24 Thread Jim Watts via CnC-List
st@cnc-list.com > *Reply To: *cnc-list@cnc-list.com > *Cc: *S Thomas > *Subject: *Re: Stus-List Darker Smoke, Harder to Start > > If it is cranking at the usual speed, then the compression might be off a > bit in one of the cylinders. This can happen if one of the piston rings has >

Re: Stus-List Darker Smoke, Harder to Start

2015-05-24 Thread Sam Salter via CnC-List
 :-)From: S Thomas via CnC-ListSent: Sunday, May 24, 2015 5:01 PMTo: cnc-list@cnc-list.comReply To: cnc-list@cnc-list.comCc: S ThomasSubject: Re: Stus-List Darker Smoke, Harder to Start If it is cranking at the usual speed

Re: Stus-List Darker Smoke, Harder to Start

2015-05-24 Thread S Thomas via CnC-List
If it is cranking at the usual speed, then the compression might be off a bit in one of the cylinders. This can happen if one of the piston rings has got stuck over the winter. I would warm up the engine good and hot and then take for a run. Run it fairly hard for a couple of hours so long as ev