My experience with synthetics (not with diesels, though) is that if you use it 
from start, that’s great, but if you try using the synthetics on an older 
engine, you are quite likely going to dissolve some of the deposits already 
there and suddenly, you may find that you are burning or losing the oil (some 
seals don’t seal as they used to). Not to mention that our engines are never 
really stressed enough to justify the higher cost. And most of us don’t try 
starting these engines in subfreezing temperatures. So the extra temperature 
range that synthetics offer don’t buy us much.

But I am not the expert on oils.

Marek

From: Fred Hazzard via CnC-List 
Sent: Monday, May 25, 2015 11:03 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Fred Hazzard 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Darker Smoke, Harder to Start

What do the experts say about synthetic oil in diesels?

Fred Hazzard
S/V Fury
C&C 44
Portland, Or

On May 25, 2015 7:10 AM, "Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
wrote:

  most of the engine oils that are available today have plenty of additives 
that get bad or ineffective after about 6 month in the engine. So if you are 
using the engine year round, you might consider changing the oil twice a year 
(at least once a year) and if you are using it less (even if you use it for 
just a few hours each year), change it annually. For us, Northern folks, this 
usually mean changing it in the fall. From what I read around, there are people 
who change the oil in the fall and again in the spring. I don’t, but I can 
understand the reasoning behind it.

  I hate throwing out the good engine oil after some 25-50 h of running time, 
but this is a cheap insurance for the engine.

  Marek
  1994 C270, Legato
  Ottawa, on

  From: Sam Salter via CnC-List 
  Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2015 9:11 PM
  To: Jim Watts via CnC-List ; 1 CnC List 
  Cc: sam.c.sal...@gmail.com 
  Subject: Re: Stus-List Darker Smoke, Harder to Start

  Diesel engine oil is supposed to look black - it's like that a half hour 
after you start the engine - by design. 
  sam :-)
        From: Jim Watts via CnC-List
        Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2015 6:48 PM
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        Cc: Jim Watts
        Subject: Re: Stus-List Darker Smoke, Harder to Start 


  It's black. 


  Jim Watts
  Paradigm Shift
  C&C 35 Mk III
  Victoria, BC


  On 24 May 2015 at 16:59, Sam Salter via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
wrote:

    What does bad lubrication oil look like? 
    sam :-)
          From: S Thomas via CnC-List
          Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2015 5:01 PM
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    If it is cranking at the usual speed, then the compression might be off a 
bit in one of the cylinders. This can happen if one of the piston rings has got 
stuck over the winter. I would warm up the engine good and hot and then take 
for a run. Run it fairly hard for a couple of hours so long as everything 
appears to be ok. That should get the carbon out, if there is any, and it might 
loosen up a seized ring. 

    Black smoke is a sign of a rich mix, but it means little if you have just 
started the engine after a period of cranking it for a while. 

    If you did not change the oil last fall, then now is the time to change it. 
I don't know why, but I have found that lubricating oil sitting for a while in 
diesel engines is more likely to go bad than in gasoline engines. Maybe it is 
climate dependent, but that has been my experience limited though that may be.  

    Steve Thomas
    C&C27 MKIII
    Port Stanley, ON 
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
      To: cnc-list Cnc-List 
      Cc: Edd Schillay 
      Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2015 18:07
      Subject: Stus-List Darker Smoke, Harder to Start

      Listers,

      I find I'm having a harder time getting the engine started and seeing a 
little bit of darker smoke when it does turn over, as compared to last season. 

      Once running, everything seems fine -- temperature, water flow, 
revolutions, etc. 

      Any ideas or suggestions?

      Usually, my solution to engine problems is "get the jib out."



      All the best,

      Edd

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