Re: Stus-List Linear Auto Pilot install

2020-04-20 Thread Bryan Colwell via CnC-List
Brad, I installed the Raymarine EV200 with type I linear drive on my 34+. I couldn't be happier with the results. Very powerful in all points of sail. Zero feedback with the unit in standby. I sail solo 90% of the time and it would be very difficult without it. The wireless remote is pretty handy

Re: Stus-List Keel movement in C&C 24

2020-04-20 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
It isn't just a matter of a torque wrench. It may require a torque multiplier. Most readily available torque wrenches won't do it. Several on the list have done this and benefited by using a torque multiplier. Perhaps they could offer additional suggestions regarding multipliers. Something lik

Re: Stus-List Keel movement in C&C 24

2020-04-20 Thread Chris Bennett via CnC-List
For anyone interested, the keel bolt nuts on the C&C 24 are 3/4 inch at the front of the keel followed by 3 nuts that are 1 1/8". I found the forward nut (the only one I had a socket for) to be barely more than hand tightened. According to specs I found on the C&C owners site this should be at 80 f

Stus-List Linear Auto Pilot install 37+/40

2020-04-20 Thread Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List
Thanks Chuck. I had measured using a old style caliper and then reading it on the scale on my digital caliper which came out as 75mm. But after your caution I decided to waits for a real micrometer to get the true(r) measurement. I think that drilling the hole for the through bold will be

Re: Stus-List CnC-List Digest, Vol 171, Issue 66

2020-04-20 Thread Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List
Thanks Chuck. I had measured using a old style caliper and then reading it on the scale on my digital caliper which came out as 75mm. But after your caution I decided to waits for a real micrometer to get the true(r) measurement. I think that drilling the hole for the through bold will be

Re: Stus-List Linear Auto Pilot install

2020-04-20 Thread Gary Russell via CnC-List
Regardless of the controller you use, I would recommend the Raymarine Electric Drive Unit (Type 2?). The benefit of an electric drive unit is it doesn't have the drag on the wheel/tiller when in standby mode. The hydraulic units I've used make it hard to feel the boat when hand steering. Gary S/

Re: Stus-List Keel movement in C&C 24

2020-04-20 Thread Chris Bennett via CnC-List
Hi John, Thanks for the tip - will take a look at the Mirage 24 site. Regards, Chris ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to se

Re: Stus-List Keel movement in C&C 24

2020-04-20 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
I have tightened mine a few times. It seems to be a C&C maintenance item. What you might want to analyze is if the keel moves in respect to the hull or the hull is flexing. If you have a helper or a camera, move the keep and see what – if anything – moves inside the boat. I suppose it is even pos

Re: Stus-List Keel movement in C&C 24

2020-04-20 Thread John Irvin via CnC-List
Your boat is very similar to a Mirage 24. Anything on their website of use? Sent from my iPhone On Apr 20, 2020, at 12:16 PM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List wrote:  Hi Chris While I believe Surveyors know an awful lot about boats and their construction they can sometimes make an error. We had a H

Re: Stus-List Keel movement in C&C 24

2020-04-20 Thread Chris Bennett via CnC-List
Hi Mike, Thanks for the suggestions. I will test the torque of the bolts later today if my socket is deep enough to do so. If they have not been tightened for 35 years (and the original long term owner assured me he had never done so) then maybe this is the issue. Regards, Chris _

Re: Stus-List Keel movement in C&C 24

2020-04-20 Thread Chris Bennett via CnC-List
> > Thanks Gary and Joe for your positive comments and suggestions. As I > replied to Rob, I am also going to check the keel bolt torques as this may > be the underlying issue. I will definitely rebuild the mast step as well > and get this area level before replacing the compression post base. Re

Re: Stus-List Keel movement in C&C 24

2020-04-20 Thread Chris Bennett via CnC-List
Thanks Rob, I will inspect as you suggest. I have also had a few people suggest that I may be looking in the wrong area and that the problem may simply be that the keel bolts are too loose - not loose enough that the keel to sump bonding has failed but loose enough that the keel is moving against

Re: Stus-List Keel movement in C&C 24

2020-04-20 Thread Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
Hi Chris While I believe Surveyors know an awful lot about boats and their construction they can sometimes make an error. We had a Hinterhoeller Niagara 26 (which is basically a C&C based on who built those boats). Early on we noted water seeping into the boat around the keel bolts. Tighteni

Re: Stus-List Keel movement in C&C 24

2020-04-20 Thread Robert Abbott via CnC-List
Chris: Inside, check grid structures and interior pans for cracks, from the pics I think I can see some cracks. Probe all grid, pan, floor, step, and bulkhead bonds with your flexible blade. Should your inspection reveal hull damage or weakness, you’ll need to deal with this first. Correctiv

Stus-List Linear Auto Pilot install

2020-04-20 Thread Bradley Lumgair via CnC-List
I’ve been crawling around below deck on our C&C 33/2 contemplating the installation of a below deck autopilot as well. My rudder post is 2.373 or roughly 2-3/8 diameter, appears to be solid stainless. My keyway extends down below the quadrant by about 4 inches or so, right where the arm needs to

Re: Stus-List Keel movement in C&C 24

2020-04-20 Thread Gary Nylander via CnC-List
+1 with Joe on the repair possibility. The pictures show that many of the early C&C’s used the same type of construction. The 30’s have three of those ‘bundles’ of fibers laid across the keel sump with some plywood stringers in between. These, in turn, have a big oak block on top with a box for

Re: Stus-List A Different CNC inquiry

2020-04-20 Thread Lee Rosenbaum via CnC-List
Stu: My CNC is a Shapeoko 3XXL. I use Vectric Aspire as my main design software. Vectric has a few versions (Vectric Desktop, Vectric Pro, Vectric Aspire). It is one of the most versatile options out there, but pricey. I have a laser attachment and use Lightburn for any laser work. Lee Rosenbaum

Re: Stus-List A Different CNC inquiry

2020-04-20 Thread Gary Nylander via CnC-List
It looks like your machine is a 2D machine. If so, you may be able to use Lightburn software, which we are using on our Laser cutter. We have a large flatbed laser cutter which has a Ruida controller but Lightburn says it can handle other types of controllers as well. Gary Nylander CBMM Mod

Re: Stus-List Keel movement in C&C 24

2020-04-20 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
Wow – sorry to hear about this ☹ First off, do NOT troubleshoot this in the water unless prepared to swim home! I think you can do the “survey” yourself, just have the boat in the slings and grab the keel. It sounded like a pretty obvious issue. Assuming you find this is actually a problem, there

Re: Stus-List A Different CNC inquiry

2020-04-20 Thread Aaron Rouhi via CnC-List
Fusion 360 is the way to go. Pretty intuitive and free for non-commercial use. Aaron R. Admiral Maggie 79 30-1 Annapolis, MD From: CnC-List on behalf of Stu via CnC-List Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 9:37:39 AM To: C&C Email List Cc: Stu Subject: Stus-List A Di

Re: Stus-List A Different CNC inquiry

2020-04-20 Thread Neil Gallagher via CnC-List
Hi Stu, I've been working with Fusion 360 for for toolpath generation a few years, after trying Solidworks and Mastercam, and I find it much more intuitive and pretty easy to use.  It's published by Autodesk, who sells Autocad, and it's free if you're not using if for commercial work.  Be hap

Stus-List A Different CNC inquiry

2020-04-20 Thread Stu via CnC-List
This is not about C&C but CNC (Computer Numerical Control). I would like to touch bases with any of our listers who have and use a desktop style CNC machine and find out what design software they are using. If you don’t know what I am talking about – here is one for you to look at: Stu -- __

Re: Stus-List Linear Auto Pilot install 37+/40

2020-04-20 Thread Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List
Tom, Thought I'd weigh in as a former Edsonite.. The most important thing to realize when installing the autopilot is that the clamping action of the arm and cap for the tiller arm is the primary form of attachment to the rudder post. Edson makes the arm with a .002" clamping tolerance to the