Re: Stus-List Volvo Reef Grounding Report

2015-03-11 Thread Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List
Airplanes only get grounded on mountains though.RonWild CheriC&C 30-1STL From: Burt Stratton via CnC-List To: sam.c.sal...@gmail.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 4:29 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Volvo Reef Grounding Report #yiv1095826029 #yiv1095826029 -- _filt

Re: Stus-List Tool recommendation

2015-03-11 Thread Russ & Melody via CnC-List
Oh! That makes sense. My brain read Aires comment as "generic engineering"... Cheers, Russ Sweet 35 mk-1 At 07:45 PM 11/03/2015, you wrote: h... Genetic engineering The possibilities...the possibilities... David F. Risch (401) 419-4650 (cell) -- Date: W

Stus-List bottom paints

2015-03-11 Thread robert via CnC-List
Mike: After what I heard on this list this week, when I run out of Micron 66, heaven forbid, I will use Amercoat ABC 4..and it doesn't cost as much as Micron CSC. Still gotta a year to find a new supply of 66like they say, necessity is the ?? Rob Abbott AZURA C&C 32 - 84 Halifa

Re: Stus-List Tool recommendation

2015-03-11 Thread robert via CnC-List
David: I will be brave to face a genetic engineer.I suspect the 50-50 acetone ATF concoction has more to do with the 'acetone' than the 'ATF'. I said earlier last week that I thought it was Power Steering Fluid ...both are petroleum based..its the acetonemaybe the petroleum

Re: Stus-List 1976 C&C 38 Electrical Panel

2015-03-11 Thread Joseph Scott via CnC-List
I am feeling a bit foolish right now. The PO did install a ground bus in the battery compartment. Since it wasn't in with the electrical panel I didn't put 2 and 2 together. Sent from my iPad > On Mar 11, 2015, at 11:07 PM, Dennis C. wrote: > > This would be a good time to install a ground

Re: Stus-List 1976 C&C 38 Electrical Panel

2015-03-11 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
This would be a good time to install a ground bus bar or a Blue Sea PowerPost Plus. https://www.bluesea.com/products/2300/Common_150A_BusBar_-_10_Gang_with_Cover https://www.bluesea.com/products/category/PowerPost_Connectors/PowerPost_Plus Dennis C. On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 9:19 PM, Joseph Scot

Re: Stus-List Tool recommendation

2015-03-11 Thread David via CnC-List
h... Genetic engineering The possibilities...the possibilities... David F. Risch (401) 419-4650 (cell) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2015 22:41:58 -0400 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Tool recommendation From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com I never cease to be amazed by the information

Re: Stus-List Tool recommendation

2015-03-11 Thread David Knecht via CnC-List
I never cease to be amazed by the information I get from this list. This group has an amazing array or talents and experiences, not just in sailing but also in engineering, metallurgy, mechanics, chemistry etc. etc. The only engineering I can provide advice on is genetic engineering and I suspe

Re: Stus-List 1976 C&C 38 Electrical Panel

2015-03-11 Thread Joseph Scott via CnC-List
Yep, that's exactly how my panel is and I did see those bolts. I guess I was expecting a bar or something. Thanks a lot. This is my first electrical project. Sent from my iPad > On Mar 11, 2015, at 10:13 PM, Rick Brass wrote: > > Remove the panel from its mounting slots (lift up, pull the b

Re: Stus-List 1976 C&C 38 Electrical Panel

2015-03-11 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List
Remove the panel from its mounting slots (lift up, pull the bottom forward, and then lower out of the top slot. That's the way mine is rigged. If different from yours, just ignore this email.) On the starboard side of the wiring compartment about 4 or 5 inches from the top you should see two "bolt

Re: Stus-List 1976 C&C 38 Electrical Panel

2015-03-11 Thread John Pennie via CnC-List
you won’t miss it. C&C was ahead of their time with electrical - really nice ground buses. Can’t comment on 1976... John > On Mar 11, 2015, at 9:57 PM, Joseph Scott via CnC-List > wrote: > > Ok, I will look around under/behind. Thanks for the help. This is my first > excursion into the el

Re: Stus-List 1976 C&C 38 Electrical Panel

2015-03-11 Thread Joseph Scott via CnC-List
Ok, I will look around under/behind. Thanks for the help. This is my first excursion into the electrical system. Joe Sent from my iPad > On Mar 11, 2015, at 9:52 PM, Edd Schillay wrote: > > Joe, > > On my 37+, there's a negative ground block behind the panel and one under. If > you can't

Re: Stus-List 1976 C&C 38 Electrical Panel

2015-03-11 Thread Edd Schillay via CnC-List
Joe, On my 37+, there's a negative ground block behind the panel and one under. If you can't locate one, you can just connect the negative to any ground anywhere else on the boat. All the best, Edd --- Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise NCC-1701-B C&C 37+ | City

Stus-List 1976 C&C 38 Electrical Panel

2015-03-11 Thread Joseph Scott via CnC-List
Hey All I am looking at installing a DC refrig system. The old one I pulled out was AC so I need to run new wiring. When I look at the fuse panel all I see it a place for the positive wire. I don't see anywhere to attach the negative or anywhere that the negative comes into the panel. Should

Re: Stus-List Composite project (not C&C related directly)

2015-03-11 Thread Wally Bryant via CnC-List
Huh? On 3/12/2015 12:49 AM, Brent Driedger via CnC-List wrote: I will look into some of those glass options as the floor of the cockpit needs to be rebuilt ___ Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubsc

Re: Stus-List Composite project (not C&C related directly)

2015-03-11 Thread Brent Driedger via CnC-List
Thanks for the mighty suggestions. I think I'll take the simple route and use plywood but I will look into some of those glass options as the floor of the cockpit needs to be rebuilt. The weather is warming up here almost to the point fast epoxy will setup! I'm looking forward to sailing this

Re: Stus-List Composite project (not C&C related directly)

2015-03-11 Thread Ron Casciato via CnC-List
Brent: Check the website for Composite Soplutions, Inc. in Hingham MA. Jeff Kent is a "composite master" and would have lots of ssugestions or even maybe has a pert that might work. http://csi-composites.com Tell him I sent you. Ron Casciato Impromptu C&C 38MKIIC'77 -Original Messag

Re: Stus-List Bottom paint

2015-03-11 Thread jackbrennan via CnC-List
With sea water in the 80s and even the 90s sometimes, you can get bottom growth quickly in central and southern Florida.  With no paint, after a month, the bottom would be covered in algae and barnacles.  In Tampa Bay, where I now live, algae growth is so intense that you can't buy or use many

Re: Stus-List bottom paint

2015-03-11 Thread dwight veinot via CnC-List
Mike If I kept my boat in the northwest Arm I would go with Bob's experience...use Micron 66 if you can get it...as you know Bob is quite meticulous about Azura and he follows manufacturer's directions well...one year he had so much growth on his prop (2 blade fixed) in late september that the boa

Stus-List registration in Canada

2015-03-11 Thread Bradley Lumgair via CnC-List
So i spoke to a gentleman at the registry office in Ottawa or wherever it is, and he tells me if I have the title signed over by the previous owner and something about de-registering it in Michigan I should be good to go. If you don't remember, I don't have the builders certificate for my 1985 C

Re: Stus-List Composite project (not C&C related directly)

2015-03-11 Thread Wally Bryant via CnC-List
I can't address the original question, but to Doug's comment I also swear by 'Knytex,' which is a trade name from one manufacturer. It's biaxial with mat sewn together, without the binders that limit one to polyester resins. Once I discovered it, I never used anything else. You can lay up re

Re: Stus-List Composite project (not C&C related directly)

2015-03-11 Thread Rick Taillieu via CnC-List
Brent, I'd keep it simple. >From the manual it looks like the original was made from plywood with a basic foil shape. I would get some plywood, shape one out of that to fit, round the front edge, taper the trailing edge, cover it with a layer or two of fibreglass and go out and have fun. It is j

Re: Stus-List Volvo Reef Grounding Report

2015-03-11 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
They were astoundingly lucky they didn’t dump half their crew off the boat in the dark. Joe Della Barba Coquina C&C 35 MK I From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 3:11 PM To: Martin DeYoung; cnc-list@cnc-list.c

Re: Stus-List Volvo Reef Grounding Report

2015-03-11 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
When the former Donneybrook hit a rock exiting the Bay the skipper broke several ribs on the wheel. The boat was going 12 knots. It was a total loss. No one on Vestas was hearing a PFD or harness in clear violation of ISAF requirements. Apparently safety was not a primary concern. Joel On Wed

Re: Stus-List Bottom paint

2015-03-11 Thread Gary Nylander via CnC-List
On the Eastern Shore, a local J-80 was dry sailed. If she was launched for a Wednesday race, she needed a quick 'floss' (dragging a bed sheet from side to side) for Saturday. Last year, we (another J-80) had one year old Vivid and a diver every other week - noticed some drag so had the diver com

Re: Stus-List Bottom paint

2015-03-11 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
Most of the race boats in Annapolis are painted and have weekly cleanings! If you dive and have Wednesdays free you can pick up some good money! J30 class rules prohibit dry sailing, and no one dares go bare. Joel On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 2:26 PM, robert via CnC-List wrote: > Jack: > > Some of

Re: Stus-List Volvo Reef Grounding Report

2015-03-11 Thread Martin DeYoung via CnC-List
> At that kind of speed it's incredible there weren't serious personal injuries > from the reef grounding situation. Bodies must have gone flying . . I believe the impact was less violent because the keel was canted to weather. On our old school boats with a fixed keel a grounding at speed equa

Stus-List Bottom paint

2015-03-11 Thread robert via CnC-List
Jack: Some of the 'sport boats' at our club don't use any antifouling paint and haul regularly with our 5 ton crane to clean by regularly, probably monthly. You say you have a monthly scrubbing by a diverwhy bother with an antifouling paint with a monthly scrubbing? Rob Abbott AZUR

Re: Stus-List Composite project (not C&C related directly)

2015-03-11 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Make a profile from the inside of the dagger board well. Then I'd start with: http://www.fibreglast.com/product/Polyisocyanurate_Foam_Sheets_440/Foam for shape. You could bump up to 6 lb foam but I don't think you need the extra strength or cost. Using polyester or vinylester resin, bond a laye

Re: Stus-List Composite project (not C&C related directly)

2015-03-11 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
You might be able use a method like this to make a hollow daggerboard that wouldn't float. http://epoxyworks.com/index.php/the-lost-foam-method-of-composite-fabrication/ Josh On Mar 11, 2015 12:04 PM, "Brent Driedger via CnC-List" < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Good day folks. > Last year I w

Re: Stus-List Stus-list Bottom paint

2015-03-11 Thread jackbrennan via CnC-List
I have had Trinidad on the bottom for three years without a haulout, but with monthly scrubbing by a diver.  It still has plenty of potency. I figure I will haul at around five years. Jack Brennan Former C&C 25 Shanachie e, 1974 Bristol 30 Tierra Verde, Fl. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Tab®|P

Re: Stus-List Stus-list Bottom paint

2015-03-11 Thread Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
Thanks Currently have Petit Vivid on our boat. Am assuming is much the same as Micron CSC in its use and anti fouling effectiveness Mike Persistence From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 1:20 PM T

Re: Stus-List Composite project (not C&C related directly)

2015-03-11 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Kevlar makes cutting and shaping a real pain in the butt. For a small project like that there is no reason fiberglass won't be sufficient. I would suggest foam insulation board from a home improvement store. A 2" thick 4x8 piece would be good for a couple different tries. The high density stuff

Re: Stus-List Composite project (not C&C related directly)

2015-03-11 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
Bacon's has old Laser daggerboards cheap. I used one for my emergency rudder contraption. I need to go there anyhow, so I could see what they have. Joel 35/3 Annapolis On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 12:52 PM, Brent Driedger via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Thanks. If I don't have any in

Re: Stus-List Composite project (not C&C related directly)

2015-03-11 Thread Brent Driedger via CnC-List
Thanks. If I don't have any info on it by May Id be very happy to get it from you then. I was considering plywood too. My old Bonito daggerboard is ply and it works well. I was thinking the invitation might have a more built up foil shape like a Laser which may be a little harder to make from pl

Re: Stus-List Composite project (not C&C related directly)

2015-03-11 Thread Douglas Mountjoy via CnC-List
A friend of mine that does a lot of glass work swears by the Bi-axial cloth and epoxy resin. Doug sv Pegasus Just west of Ballard Wa. LF38 On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 9:02 AM, Brent Driedger via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Good day folks. > Last year I was gifted a tired Bombardier Inv

Re: Stus-List Composite project (not C&C related directly)

2015-03-11 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
Bent, I have a boat like this, as well. I have it at the cottage, so I cannot take any measurements at this time. It won't happen until some time in May (if you are still interested). I found a manual here: http://www.iei.liu.se/flumes/bjorn/triss_racer?l=en (it is big and the connection is

Stus-List Stus-list Bottom paint

2015-03-11 Thread Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List
+ 1 on Petit Trinidad. It is the #1 recommended paint for overall effectiveness / durability in these here parts.. I'm not in salt water (But I am in a warm climate that is very conducive to slime) so far (1 year) it lives up to the hype and the bottom is completely slime / growth free / smooth

Stus-List Composite project (not C&C related directly)

2015-03-11 Thread Brent Driedger via CnC-List
Good day folks. Last year I was gifted a tired Bombardier Invitation 3.8. With a little TLC I'll get her sailing agains but the boat came without a daggerboard. I'm going to make a composite one. Two questions. I've scoured the Internet for a design detail of the board but have come up with not