Re: [clug-talk] Linux article

2012-05-02 Thread Greg Saunders
> I really don't get why people call it hard. You nailed the problem. Neither do I. That's my point. Guys like you and I are the exact wrong type of individual to figure out a genius UI for the masses. That's why Linux sucks (for the average user) on the desktop. People just want their crap to wo

Re: [clug-talk] Linux article

2012-05-02 Thread Mel Walters
On Tue, 2012-05-01 at 13:56 -0600, Greg Saunders wrote: > I hesitate to add to this at all. I'm sure it will be misinterpreted. I do appreciate you sharing your opinion. It's not like there is a wrong or right answer, but other people seem to have gotten different results with family, friends and c

Re: [clug-talk] Linux article

2012-05-01 Thread Gustin Johnson
I actually disagree with the question. Why should someone use Linux? The answer should be because they want to. It seems that choosing computers has become a fashion statement as of late, in which case Apple pretty much has that market sewn up. I am of the opinion that trying to woo people into

Re: [clug-talk] Linux article

2012-05-01 Thread caziz
Not like me. I'm simple and like things that work. Torvalds thinks Gnome 3 bites too. (bad pun?) I think the root problem is the imperative to do new exciting things. Gnome 2 has good functionality but (I understand) the guts are a mess. So why not clean up a proven design? Because it ain't a ne

Re: [clug-talk] Linux article

2012-05-01 Thread caziz
You're scaring me, Terrell. We never agree. :-) I really don't get what is the "hard part". The basics are pretty easy. About 15 years ago at CUUG it took me 2 years to get an Intro to Linux (install fest type) course going. Now you try a Live DVD and if you like it, click on the install butto

Re: [clug-talk] Linux article

2012-05-01 Thread terr
Excellent post Chris! This one makes me both laugh and shake my head at the same time. On Tue, May 01, 2012 at 05:27:49PM -0600, caziz wrote: > my 16 y.o. has been using Linux since he was 3. > He now uses openoffice (90% Linux side) for his H/S courses. > > The only limit to his juvenile us

Re: [clug-talk] Linux article

2012-05-01 Thread caziz
my 16 y.o. has been using Linux since he was 3. He now uses openoffice (90% Linux side) for his H/S courses. The only limit to his juvenile use was it took many years to get Flash/Shockwave. "Booty Windows" and "Booty Linux" were 2 of his first sentences. At 3.5 he could boot the machine with gr

Re: [clug-talk] Linux article

2012-05-01 Thread Lance A. Brown
On 05/01/12 15:56, Greg Saunders wrote: > Here is why Linux on the desktop is a failure: It's designed by developers > like you and me. Get a top notch design agency engaged, people that understand > "user experience" and UI design, it could be a different story. We, > developers, haven't come up w

Re: [clug-talk] Linux article

2012-05-01 Thread Greg Saunders
I hesitate to add to this at all. I'm sure it will be misinterpreted. For the masses, Linux is useless on the desktop. I've been using Linux since 99 and it has been my primary development platform since 2001. It is the foundation that, more or less, pays my bills and keeps the lights on. Until 3

Re: [clug-talk] Linux article

2012-05-01 Thread Mel Walters
Robin, thanks for pointing out this article. There should be nothing stopping FOSS from coming up the ultimate solution... Whether that involves using something like Linux Mint, OR using Debian itself to solve is still up for debate in my mind. Yet I am unable to spend the time I want on such a p

Re: [clug-talk] Linux article

2012-04-29 Thread caziz
Really liked the article up to the last 3 paragraphs. Among others, Centos, SuSe and Ubuntu are widely used as desk top OSes. Still worth the read. TQ Richard On 12-04-29 01:10 PM, Richard Carter wrote: Hi Folks, This article may be of interest: http://www.economist.com/node/21551409 Robin <

[clug-talk] Linux article

2012-04-29 Thread Richard Carter
Hi Folks, This article may be of interest: http://www.economist.com/node/21551409 Robin ___ clug-talk mailing list clug-talk@clug.ca http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) **Please r