Fwd: [SCM] CloudStack OSS branch master updated. eb864814a91bc9d03fad3404484513269b7b059b

2012-05-31 Thread David Nalley
Prachi: Is there no other option than wsdl4j? (Axis perhaps?) While we can include CPL-licensed code there's additional overhead to doing so, and if there's a permissive open source license available, esp. an ASLv2 licensed piece of software it strikes me as less painful all the way around. --D

RE: Why is the vhd-util binary committed to the CloudStack source repo?

2012-05-31 Thread Mike McClurg
CC'ing xen-api list. On May 30, 2012 6:31 PM, "Anthony Xu" wrote: > > All XenServer releases include vhd-util, in that version it saves local time as timestamp in VHD file, it is probably okay with XenServer. > But with CloudStack, CloudStack may move VHD file around to XenServer with different t

Re: [PATCH] Ubuntu: Do not package the sccs-info file, it's not generated

2012-05-31 Thread Wido den Hollander
Hi, On 29-05-12 10:06, Pradeep Soundararajan wrote: It looks cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org will strip out the attachment, thanks Kevin for letting me know... Wido/Frank, Here is the patch: Sorry for my late response, I've been traveling a

Re: [PATCH] Ubuntu: Do not package the sccs-info file, it's not generated

2012-05-31 Thread Wido den Hollander
Hi, On 31-05-12 10:06, Wido den Hollander wrote: Hi, On 29-05-12 10:06, Pradeep Soundararajan wrote: It looks cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org will strip out the attachment, thanks Kevin for letting me know... Wido/Frank, Here is the patch: So

Re: Proposal to use OSGi for component modularity

2012-05-31 Thread Alex Karasulu
On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 9:16 AM, Chris Custine wrote: > On Wednesday, May 30, 2012 at 12:32 PM, Frank Zhang wrote: > > I have some different thoughts here > > > > > On Tuesday, May 29, 2012 at 10:29 PM, Alex Huang wrote: > > > > > > > CloudStack is built as a product with modularity enforced by >

Re: [DISCUSS] where to begin the process for Apache CloudStack 4.0.0

2012-05-31 Thread Robert Schweikert
On 05/31/2012 12:35 AM, Kevin Kluge wrote: The master branch hasn't diverged much from the 3.0.x branch at this point. I can't name any divergence off the top of my head. I would expect 3.0.x to be more stable, but if there is another reason to go forth with master then I wouldn't stop that

Re: Fwd: [SCM] CloudStack OSS branch master updated. eb864814a91bc9d03fad3404484513269b7b059b

2012-05-31 Thread Daniel Kulp
On Thursday, May 31, 2012 03:33:34 AM David Nalley wrote: > Prachi: > > Is there no other option than wsdl4j? (Axis perhaps?) While we can > include CPL-licensed code there's additional overhead to doing so, and > if there's a permissive open source license available, esp. an ASLv2 > licensed pi

API usage records and SQL

2012-05-31 Thread Tamas Monos
Hi, I've spent lots of time trying to debug why does it take so long for the management server to answer the: "listUsageRecords&pagesize=1000&page=X" query. When I ask for 500 records I get results in about 5-6 seconds. If I increase the pagesize to 1000 I need to wait 12 seconds to start gettin

CloudStack Meetup in Philadelphia - July 11th

2012-05-31 Thread Chip Childers
Hi folks, (For those of you on both cloudstack-dev and cloudstack-users, sorry for sending to both lists.) A pretty diverse meetup group here in Philadelphia, called "Platform, Infrastructure and Networking Group - Philly" (PING-Philly for short), is dedicating the July 11th date to the topic of

8 Xen hosts limitations

2012-05-31 Thread Lucas Hughes
Hello, I see in the install docs that it says not to use more than 8 Xen hosts in one pool. I am wondering why this is the case because as a test I added 10 hosts to a pool and Cloudstack is managing them without any issues that I see. Any further clarification on this issue would be greatly

RE: 8 Xen hosts limitations

2012-05-31 Thread Clayton Weise
Somebody from Citrix/CloudStack can correct me here but as I understand it 8 is a rule of thumb and not a strict law. That being said, XenServer (and XCP) are limited to 16 hosts per resource pool -- and that _is_ a hard limit. Other limits are available from here: http://www.citrix.com/site/

RE: API usage records and SQL

2012-05-31 Thread Nitin Mehta
Hi Tamas, Asking for 500 records takes 5-6 seconds and 1000 records taking 12 seconds shows a linear increase and so doesn't seem like there is any performance degradation of any sort here. >From a quick glance at the code it seems that your analysis " It seems there >is a conversion/parsing al

RE: Why is the vhd-util binary committed to the CloudStack source repo?

2012-05-31 Thread Anthony Xu
I'd like to post another feature request for vhd-util from CloudStack prospective. It would be nice to have vhd-util copy function, 1. it can thin provision VHD file after copy, For example, in CloudStack, user can install a VM from ISO, after installation , user can use it as a template. It

RE: API usage records and SQL

2012-05-31 Thread Tamas Monos
Hi, Thank you for spotting this out. I think it is worth filing a bug for fix/improvement. Could we somehow build an array with those IDs and send the whole query at once instead of calling separately for all records? Regards Tamas Monos DDI

Re: API usage records and SQL

2012-05-31 Thread David Nalley
On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Tamas Monos wrote: > Hi, > > Thank you for spotting this out. > I think it is worth filing a bug for fix/improvement. > Could we somehow build an array with those IDs and send the whole query at > once instead of calling separately for all records? > Bugs at htt

Re: Fwd: [SCM] CloudStack OSS branch master updated. eb864814a91bc9d03fad3404484513269b7b059b

2012-05-31 Thread David Nalley
On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 10:03 AM, Daniel Kulp wrote: > On Thursday, May 31, 2012 03:33:34 AM David Nalley wrote: >> Prachi: >> >> Is there no other option than wsdl4j?  (Axis perhaps?)  While we can >> include CPL-licensed code there's additional overhead to doing so, and >> if there's a permissiv

Re: [DISCUSS] where to begin the process for Apache CloudStack 4.0.0

2012-05-31 Thread David Nalley
On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 8:15 AM, Robert Schweikert wrote: > On 05/31/2012 12:35 AM, Kevin Kluge wrote: >> >> The master branch hasn't diverged much from the 3.0.x branch at this >> point.  I can't name any divergence off the top of my head.  I would expect >> 3.0.x to be more stable, but if there

RE: 8 Xen hosts limitations

2012-05-31 Thread Nitin Mehta
Lucas - I think this is more of a recommended guideline from the hypervisor to have a descent performance. From what I recall I think the performance of the cluster starts degrading exponentially as you scale the number of vlans and the hosts in the cluster. Thanks, -Nitin -Original Messag

RE: 8 Xen hosts limitations

2012-05-31 Thread Anthony Xu
Hi Clayton, You are right, 8 host is a rule of thumb, 16 is hard limitation. Cloudstack uses XAPI to communicate with XenServer Pool, CloudStack uses XAPI much more heavily than user uses XAPI though XenCenter/CLI, Which includes some regular XAPI call, like VM state Sync, We found if there are

Re: Fwd: [SCM] CloudStack OSS branch master updated. eb864814a91bc9d03fad3404484513269b7b059b

2012-05-31 Thread Daniel Kulp
On Thursday, May 31, 2012 01:32:22 PM David Nalley wrote: > On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 10:03 AM, Daniel Kulp wrote: > > On Thursday, May 31, 2012 03:33:34 AM David Nalley wrote: > >> Prachi: > >> > >> Is there no other option than wsdl4j? (Axis perhaps?) While we can > >> include CPL-licensed code

Re: S3 API in CloudStack 3.0.x

2012-05-31 Thread Chiradeep Vittal
[Sorry for cross posting, but potentially both users and developers may be interested] The s3-hdfs branch in git.cloud.com [1] replaces the filesystem backend with a HDFS backend. Since we're still discussing where development happens, I haven't moved it to anywhere official. For those looking to

RE: Proposal to use OSGi for component modularity

2012-05-31 Thread Frank Zhang
Thanks for explanation. These concerns may be too technical not relating much to architecture requirement that Alex mentioned. I raised them here because I could not figure out them in my one week OSGI journey. I admit that I might not spend enough time, but I feel one week is enough to get an

Re: Proposal to use OSGi for component modularity

2012-05-31 Thread Mohammad Nour El-Din
Hi... On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 8:11 PM, Frank Zhang wrote: > Thanks for explanation. These concerns may be too technical not relating > much to architecture requirement that Alex mentioned. > I raised them here because I could not figure out them in my one week OSGI > journey. I admit that I mig

Re: [DISCUSS] where to begin the process for Apache CloudStack 4.0.0

2012-05-31 Thread Mohammad Nour El-Din
Hi I agree that branching from a branch is not the way to go. But at the same time I agree with David that we need to follow the rule: - Release soon and release regularly also I agree with David that next release must focus more on cleaning the code or at least starting to clean the code The

Re: 8 Xen hosts limitations

2012-05-31 Thread Lucas Hughes
On 05/31/2012 01:46 PM, Anthony Xu wrote: Hi Clayton, You are right, 8 host is a rule of thumb, 16 is hard limitation. Cloudstack uses XAPI to communicate with XenServer Pool, CloudStack uses XAPI much more heavily than user uses XAPI though XenCenter/CLI, Which includes some regular XAPI call,

RE: Proposal to use OSGi for component modularity

2012-05-31 Thread Frank Zhang
That's what my thought too > -Original Message- > From: nour.moham...@gmail.com [mailto:nour.moham...@gmail.com] > On Behalf Of Mohammad Nour El-Din > Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 11:36 AM > To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org > Subject: Re: Proposal to use OSGi for component modularit

RE: API usage records and SQL

2012-05-31 Thread Tamas Monos
I'm happy to file the bug and test it excessively but I doubt I can fix it as I'm more of a techie/tester. I came up with the array idea because that is how I fixed our DNS management platform when dealing with thousands of records, but that is php. -Original Message- From: David Nalley

Re: Proposal to use OSGi for component modularity

2012-05-31 Thread Marcel Offermans
Hello Mohammad, On May 31, 2012, at 20:36 , Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote: > But from what you said Frank, and what others proposed, I think you don't > need that kind of modularity facilitated by OSGi or like technologies, I > believe all what we need then is: > > 1- Good design +1 > 2- Good doc

Bug Fixes & Feature Requests

2012-05-31 Thread Eric
Is this (i.e., the cloudstack-dev mailing list) the appropriate forum for suggesting bug fixes and proposing feature requests? Yeah, I'm new here.  ;) Eric P. Truckee, CA

Re: Bug Fixes & Feature Requests

2012-05-31 Thread Sheng Yang
Yes, you got the right place. :) -- Sheng On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 9:07 PM, Eric wrote: > > > Is this (i.e., the cloudstack-dev mailing list) the appropriate forum for > suggesting bug fixes and proposing feature requests? > > Yeah, I'm new here.  ;) > > Eric P. > Truckee, CA

making VM startup more fine-grained

2012-05-31 Thread Chiradeep Vittal
I was helping someone with their integration of an SDN controller with CloudStack. The requirement was that the SDN controller needed the uuid of the virtual interface (vif) of the virtual machine so that it could plug it into the right softswitch, manage the vif etc. This vif uuid is generated by

RE: making VM startup more fine-grained

2012-05-31 Thread Kelven Yang
> Another way is to modify the specific hypervisor resource to do something > just after creating the vifs but prior to starting the vm. I would go with this way. I'm proposing bi-directional communication between resource agent and the CloudStack kernel. Let CloudStack kernel only manage meta d

RE: making VM startup more fine-grained

2012-05-31 Thread Kelven Yang
Another way to state my point - don't let CloudStack orchestrators do micro-management. It is impossible to handle every case cleanly if we do micro-management at one level. Let these orchestrators behave like people managers, Hey, this is the user's configuration (network config, CPU,