27;monad-expr' to be a single call to 'reduce'.
There's a quick explanation of monads at the beginning of the file.
Thanks to Konrad for posting some good code.
File is at:
http://groups.google.com/group/clojure/web/monad-redux.clj
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Hey, I was just looking at neo4j last night. Can you point me to any
papers about the theory behind those kinds of a databases?
Thanks,
Jim
On Dec 6, 3:15 pm, Julian Morrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A wrapper for neo4j, which is a non-relational database using a
> network o
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Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: user
$m_PLUS_m_seq_PLUS_m__252
(I snipped out some of the call stack.)
Looking forward to digging into this later.
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I'll probably have some more comments after I dig into the code.
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All in all, a fine piece of code that I'll be using whenever I want to
use monads in Clojure.
I've also modified my parser combinator monad and uploaded a new
version at:
http://groups.google.com/group/clojure/web/monad-parser%20%282%29.clj
Jim
-
])
(notice the change to the bind function).
This let me write the parser monad as:
(def parser-m (stateT maybe))
If that stateT function isn't actually a monad transformer, it still
is a slick way of combining the two monads.
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. So there's less motivation to understand
them. But I found that once I understood them, they are a powerful
addition to my conceptual toolbox.
Jim
r wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Although I am not a big fan of monads (I can't help the feeling this
> abstraction is more difficult than
et to that point, though.
Jim
On Dec 22, 1:51 am, Konrad Hinsen wrote:
> I also think that some aspects of monads are clearer in Clojure than
> they are in Haskell. Haskell's way to implement monads as data types
> has some practical advantages, but it also obscures the algorithmi
Just saw this thread.
It's in my mind to do, but I don't know when I'll get to it. I've got
a ton of code to write before I get to that item on my TODO list.
However, if there'd be a place to put it on the Clojure page, I'd bump
it to the top.
Jim
On Dec 23 2008,
SBCL but after I switched to
Clojure, I've found the need for something like it greatly reduced
because Rich has put such an emphasis on making concurrent programming
easy.
Jim
Jack Norimi wrote:
> I found this document
> http://www.scribd.com/doc/3566845/FRP-Presentation-Web
> and
om the socket's input stream and then used lazy-cons to call it when
needed.
Look forward to using these lazy sequences.
Jim
Rich Hickey wrote:
> On Feb 2, 2:27 pm, Chouser wrote:
> > On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 2:05 PM, MikeM
> > wrote:
> >
> > > There is a &
Take a look at:
http://clojure.googlegroups.com/web/monad-parser.clj
It's the code from "Monadic Parsing in Haskell" written in Clojure.
It'd have to be modified slightly to work with the new
clojure.contrib.monads. But that would be easy to do.
jim
On Feb 3, 8:42 pm, sbk
Has anyone done logging using syslog from clojure or java?
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Luc Prefontaine wrote:
> We use apache common logging and log4j to do all our logging from both
> Clojure and java components.
> You can use the SyslogAppender iof log4j to log to syslog.
>
> To get log4j configured we use Spring but you could use the
> -Dlog4j.configuration= when starting
ot of cycles later on. I also prefer it on aesthetic
grounds. Breaking compatibility doesn't bother me much.
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(fn [& stms]
(fn [s] (apply m-plus (map #(% s) stms))
]))
I've also about finished with the first draft of a monad tutorial for
Clojure based on clojure.contrib.monads.
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I've got something that's pretty close. There are some other things
in the queue before I can get it cleaned up and ready for public
consumption, but I'm working towards that.
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On Feb 18, 2:39 am, Jan Rychter wrote:
> Is anyone working on a Parenscript
> (http://co
(fn [s]
(apply m-plus
(map #(% s) stms))
]))
Jim
On Feb 18, 2:24 am, Konrad Hinsen wrote:
> The latest Clojure version broke many of my code by introducing the
> function sequence whose name collided with my
sn't accept a list of monadic values but instead lets
you call it with any number of mv's.
Instead of:
(m-seq [mv1 mv2 mv3])
you would write
(m-seq mv1 mv2 mv3)
That would make it be the same as the implementations of m-plus you've
already done.
Thanks
On Feb 19, 1:45 am, Konrad H
There's a logic programming module in the files section. It
implements the system found in "The Reasoned Schemer".
On Feb 18, 2:59 pm, Jeffrey Straszheim
wrote:
> Did you cover logic programming? Any bottom up logic query techniques?
> (My motives are probably transparent.)
>
> On Wed, Feb 18,
Seeing your comments, I've decided to try to get my Javascript
generator suitable for public use. It'll take a day or two, I
think. Have you got a catchy name for it?
Jim
Dan wrote:
>
> It depends on common lisp instead of clojure? :)
>
> How does ClojureScript inte
Looking at qooxdoo was down a little further on my list, since Kenny
Tilton mentioned it. I'd like to do some web app type stuff, which
why I took a crack at the parenscript thing in the first place.
On Feb 22, 2:18 pm, Dan wrote:
> That would be great! My main reason to want this is for this
Is there a summary of the changes to Clojure that the lazy sequences
required. For instance fnseq doesn't exist any more, that I see.
Also, lazy-cons went away.
Jim
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In some old code, I did something like:
(with-meta (concat [1 3] [8 4])
{:tail true}))
which now fails. I believe it's because the result of concat is now
some kind of reference.
Does anyone have any advice on a workaround?
minor thing to adapt m-seq, so if there are
other cases where the current implementation is easier, it's no big
deal. Just felt like little rough edge.
Jim
On Feb 22, 3:10 pm, Konrad Hinsen wrote:
>
> Do you have a concrete use case where this would be advantageous? In
> my certa
Thanks,
I had skimmed that link and then forgot about it.
Jim
On Feb 22, 3:13 pm, samppi wrote:
> A good summary is here:http://clojure.org/lazier
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Thanks! That was exactly what I needed to get my old code to pass my
unit tests. Now it's on to making changes to bring it up to date with
the new lazy stuff.
Jim
On Feb 22, 3:32 pm, Chouser wrote:
>
> LazySeq extends AFn, so you can't change the metadata once the object
&g
?
Rich, I sent a CA last week. If you haven't gotten it or there's a
problem, let me know.
Jim
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tion using lazy sequences and monads.
The unification routines are about 50/50 since I had to implement some
things differently because of differences between Scheme and Clojure.
Before I submit it, I'll go back and see about re-implementing the
unification concepts.
Jim
Rich Hickey wrote:
>
Good to know. Thanks.
Michel S. wrote:
> On Feb 24, 11:03 am, Rich Hickey wrote:
> Kanren / Mini Kanren (Mini is the version in Reasoned Schemer) are MIT-
> licensed:
>
> http://kanren.sourceforge.net/#Availability
>
> so even a port is alright. When I took Dan Friedman's class based on
> the b
ren making any
suggestions for improvements for style or performance.
Jim
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ion I just uploaded. The file also includes a bunch
of unit tests of the various functions. At the bottom, there are some
examples of javascript functions being generated.
Bug reports very much appreciated.
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I don't have a Scheme here to check it out, but doesn't
(cons 1)
yield
'(1)
or am I wrong?
In either case how could it be stated more accurately/clearly?
Thanks
Jim
On Feb 26, 7:52 am, "Michel S." wrote:
> Hi Jim,
>
> "In Scheme, passing cons one
Looking at the code, lcons does indeed require two parms. I must've
been zoned out when I wrote the comment. Thanks for catching that.
On Feb 26, 9:10 am, Pierpaolo Bernardi wrote:
> no. in scheme (and in all modern lisps), cons is a 2 arguments procedure.
> Giving it 1 is an error.
>
> Some v
Konrad,
I just finished a tutorial last week. It'll be interesting to compare
notes. I'm waiting for my shiny new web server to get here, so I can
put it on line.
Jim
Konrad Hinsen wrote:
> For those who are interested in monads but don't want to learn
> Haskell fi
Interesting take on explaining monads. I hadn't articulated the link
between 'let' and 'domonad' . Looking forward to part 2.
On Mar 5, 12:21 pm, Konrad Hinsen wrote:
> For those who are interested in monads but don't want to learn
> Haskell first to understand the Haskell-based monad tutori
Is there a more efficient way of getting the keys of a struct-map
besides creating an instance and passing it to keys:
>(def ts (create-struct :a :b))
>(keys (struct ts))
(:a :b)
Thanks,
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On Mar 11, 5:07 pm, Timothy Pratley wrote:
> They are not currently exposed, but a trivial patch will achieve what
> you want:http://groups.google.com/group/clojure/web/s
Ditto.
> March 20th 2009 Rich Hickey Appreciation Day
>
> -Rayne
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ats get deferred until needed and that the nested calls
blow up the stack.
Also, this works
user=> (def tl (reduce #(conj %1 %2) [] (range 4000)))
#'user/tl
user=> (last tl)
3999
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I didn't take time to read your post in detail because I'm on my way
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However, as I've gotten better at Clojure and functional programming,
I find I use loops less and less. I just got done putting the
finishing touches on a package to analyse stock ch
issed?
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so they're not dependent on
order. Have you seen anything else that needs to be fixed?
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setup the Git server ASAP.
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> like "clothure" since it is Lisp. :)
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The sample code is available now. Took a little bit to get it set.
It's the code from the tutorial with a little bonus. I implemented an
HTTP protocol parser, using the parser-m monad, as an example.
Jim
On Apr 16, 12:37 am, Baishampayan Ghose wrote:
> The code pagehttp://intensivesys
Someone sent me an email about some issues with javascript generator I
posted a couple of weeks ago. I have searched all my email locations
and can't find any record of those emails or the response I know I
sent. It that was you, would you mind emailing me again?
Thanks
Nevermind.
On Apr 16, 3:28 pm, jim wrote:
> Someone sent me an email about some issues with javascript generator I
> posted a couple of weeks ago. I have searched all my email locations
> and can't find any record of those emails or the response I know I
> sent. It that was yo
a flash of inspiration and
implemented with-monad as below. This makes all those functions actual
function objects. What do you think?
Jim
http://groups.google.com/group/clojure/web/with-monad.clj
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I see the point about being able to add new functions. If you do
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I also think that m-lift can be written so that you don't need to pass
it an argument count, which is another burr under my saddle.
n I do
a :map. I got the nailgun server running. But I can't get gvim to
start a REPL in a buffer.
Could you point me to some docs or give a quick howto on getting that
going?
Thanks,
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Thanks for the response.
Here's specifically what's happening:
I have vim 7.2, according to the :version command in gvim
I start the nailgun server with:
java -cp /home/jim/clojure/clojure.jar:/home/jim/clojure/
clojure.contrib/clojure-contrib.jar:/home/jim/clojure/vimc
I forgot to say that I have:
let clj_want_gorilla = 1
in my .vimrc
On Apr 27, 12:08 pm, Meikel Brandmeyer wrote:
> Hi Jim,
>
> Am 27.04.2009 um 18:08 schrieb jim:
>
> > I'm having a heck of a time getting started with VimClojure and it's
> > probably all due
I forgot to say that I have:
let clj_want_gorilla = 1
let vimclojure#NailgunClient = "/home/jim/clojure/ng"
in my .vimrc file.
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guessing the plugin isn't fully loaded or something.
Is there a way to check that? Perhaps a way to attempt to start the
REPL from the command prompt?
Jim
Meikel Brandmeyer wrote:
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>
> Am 27.04.2009 um 19:56 schrieb jim:
>
> > I forgot to say that I have:
> &g
m the .vimrc and the mappings go away.
Reading the vimclojure plugin, I see that it checks for the existence
of b:vimclojure_namespace before adding those mappings. When I do
a :echo b:vimclojure_namespace, I get an undefined variable error.
Jim
On Apr 27, 3:09 pm, Meikel Brandmeyer wrote:
> Hi
s going to be a steep learning curve at first.
Jim
On Apr 27, 5:48 pm, samppi wrote:
> I have a library called FnParse, and I'm wondering if I should rewrite
> it using monads. (You can see FnParse's documentation at wiki.github.com/joshua-choi/fnparse> and its implementation
ntMap (wrong
name: clojure/proxy/clojure/lang/APersistentMap)
CLASSPATH for the server is:
/home/jim/vimclojure-2.1.0/build/vimclojure.jar:src
CLOJURE_EXT for the server is:
/home/jim/clojure
/home/jim/clojure contains clojure.jar and clojure-contrib.jar.
On Apr 27, 4:29 pm, Meikel Brandmeyer wr
to import my UID class. But when I tried to
call the UID.setuid method, it gave me that UnsatisfiedLinkError. Did
you find a solution to your problem?
Jim
On Apr 22, 8:41 am, "Antonio, Fabio Di Narzo"
wrote:
> Hi all.
> I'm having problems with using swig-generated wrapp
s still failing when I started a REPL from command mode. It was
giving an error that it couldn't find /home/jim/vimclojure-2.0.1/ng.
Instead of figuring out why, I just created the directory and put ng
into it. After that, things worked.
Jim
On Apr 28, 10:52 am, Meikel Brandmeyer wrote:
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ns
loaded previously are gone and you have a brand new environment to
work in?
Thanks,
Jim
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got Java Service
Wrapper, http://wrapper.tanukisoftware.org/doc/english/download.jsp,
working with a network app of mine. Supposedly, it starts a JVM and
restarts it if it crashes. If something like that was used, just
killing the server would cause it to be restarted.
Jim
On Apr 28, 3:06 pm, Meikel
Meikel,
I'm liking what I've seen so far of vimclojure. One request is to have
the preview window stay up all the time and keep adding to it with the
\ef, \et, \eb, etc. commands. Having it come and go is distracting to
me.
My $0.02
Thanks,
Jim
On Apr 29, 12:07 pm, Meikel Brandme
I've just posted the second part of my monads tutorial at:
http://intensivesystems.net/tutorials/monads_201.html
I need to proof it further, so if you see problems with content,
grammar or spelling. Comment here or send me an email.
Jim
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of tomorrow in a small metal tube at 20,000 feet in the air.
Jim
Howard Lewis Ship wrote:
> I've been struggling to create a monadic p
(first
(drop-while nil?
(map #(% strn)
parsers)])
I explain it in:
http://intensivesystems.net/tutorials/monads_101.html
What kind of parsing are you doing?
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t it just needs one more tweak to get it
right. That's what happened to me and I wasted a lot of effort before
I finally tossed it out and really focused on understanding.
If you'd like to post details of what you're doing, I'd guess some
folks would lend some assistance.
Jim
I wrote one specifically for monads in Clojure.
http://intensivesystems.net/tutorials/monads_101.html
There's also a second part.
Also, Konrad Hinson wrote one:
http://onclojure.com/2009/03/06/a-monad-tutorial-for-clojure-programmers-part-1
it's in 4 parts, I believe.
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Konrad,
Glad to see you're still around doing monads in Clojure. :)
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f you're
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http://intensivesystems.net/tutorials/web_sessions.html
One thing I love about FP in general and Clojure specifically is the
density of code that is possible. This library is only about 80 lines
of code.
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about 50 lines of code to write. Having to account for browser history
took another 30. However, those 50 lines of code will turn your brain
to mush if you don't have a handle on the continuation monad. :)
Jim
Graham Fawcett wrote:
>
n be considered the mother of all monads:
http://blog.sigfpe.com/2008/12/mother-of-all-monads.html
But it will turn your brain to mush if you're not careful.
Jim
Martin Coxall wrote:
> On Nov 25, 2:59 pm, Konrad Hinsen wrote:
> > On 25.11.2009, at 15:32, jim wrote:
> >
>
log up the
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have sparked a few thoughts. I've got to get the
continuation monad tutorial written and then I may think about them.
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Jim Powers wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 7:21 PM, jim wrote:
>
> > I finally got time to find the bug in my web application framework.
> > Here
Jim,
I think I can see how to write a library that would scale across any
number of servers and I don't think it would be too difficult. I've
got other itches to scratch before I'd get to it, but if people
started asking for it (or someone wanted to sponsor the work) I might
Just finished the tutorial explaining the continuation monad in
clojure. Haven't even proofed it but I want to head to the gym. :)
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> > Just finished the tutorial explaining the continuation monad in
> > clojure. Haven't even proofed it but I want to head to the gym. :)
> >
> > http://in
Or how to use the continuation monad.
I just posted the latest tutorial here:
http://intensivesystems.net/tutorials/cont_m_web.html
It covers the internals of the continuation-based web framework I
wrote about here:
http://intensivesystems.net/tutorials/web_sessions.html
It's also a really goo
Just posted a short piece on why monads are useful. This was prompted
by some conversations last week with some folks. Comments, questions
and criticisms welcome.
http://intensivesystems.net/tutorials/why_monads.html
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later.
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On Dec 22, 3:14 pm, Chouser wrote:
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> It's interesting to me that the definition of maybe-comp above is
> arguably simpler that the definition of maybe-m, even without
> counting the machiner
s.net/tutorials/stream_proc.html
This is only a quick overview with a few hints of what it could be
used for, so don't expect too much from it.
Merry Christmas,
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I've expanded the tutorial a little. You can skip to "Another example"
for the new stuff. I go through the same exercise using the
probability monad.
http://intensivesystems.net/tutorials/why_monads.html
There are some corresponding additions to the sample code as well.
Jim
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I figured you'd had a good reason for doing it the way you did.
Konrad Hinsen wrote:
> On 24.12.2009, at 05:18, jim wrote:
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> > I was looking at the probability monad today and think this definition
> > of m-bind might be easier to understand.
> >
> > (defmonad
d transformers seem to
be the way forward, but that's open to debate as you've pointed out.
Vagif Verdi wrote:
> On Dec 22, 2:10 pm, jim wrote:
> > Chouser,
> >
> > You're right that maybe-comp is simpler. Once you realize that the
> > functions you want to
pretty much the same.
He looked at me like I was insane. :) :)
I guess when you're looking back on the world from the vantage point
of s-expressions, they do look the same. IMHO. :) Erlang and Haskell
would have a similar effect, I would suspect.
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Steven E. Harris wrote:
> In clojure.contrib.monads, there's a monad defined called "cont-m" to
> model continuations. Its bind operator -- `m-bind` -- is defined as
> follows:
>
> ,
> | (fn m-bind-cont [mv f]
> | (fn [c]
> |
You know, I think you're right. I would refer you to part 2 of
Konrad's monad tutorial, but the link is broken. Check google's cache,
if you want to read an explanation immediately.
I'll have to go change that. Thanks for pointing it out and sorry for
any confusion.
Jim
St
Here's a similar idea (also untested)
(defn which-list [number]
(let [by-5 (zero? (mod number 5))]
(cond
(and (odd? number) by-5) [:odd-5]
by-5 [:even-5]
(
logic_prog.html
Jim
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Love 'em. Well worth the time and effort to go through them. They're
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On Mar 23, 10:37 am, Sean Devlin wrote:
> Hey folks,
> I'm looking to add to my bookshelf. I was wondering what this groups
> experience with the Schemer series of books is?
>
> S
and other projects using
it. Like a business rules engine written in Clojure. Too many cool
things to work on, not enough time. :)
Jim
On Mar 23, 12:26 pm, Quzanti wrote:
> Very interesting write up.
>
> What advantages would prolog have over such a language. Or if we are
> trying to mov
No. That's one of the improvements I would make if I get back to
working on it again.
Jim
On Mar 26, 1:37 pm, Sophie wrote:
>
> Is it aware of all Clojure structures, including maps etc?
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Kevin,
Check out file:///home/jim/logic-prog.html
Jim
On Apr 18, 10:19 pm, Kevin Livingston
wrote:
> does anyone have a clojure implementation of a unifier, eg. something
> that does this:
>
> http://norvig.com/paip/unify.lisp
>
> if not I'll do it, but just thought I&#x
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