Re: cider status

2013-12-17 Thread Bozhidar Batsov
Good news for the Marmalade users here! Nic Ferrier has fixed the package upload problem that plagued cider 0.4 and it’s now available for installation from there. -- Cheers, Bozhidar On Tuesday, December 17, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Phillip Lord wrote: > Gary Johnson mailto:gwjoh...@uvm.edu)> w

Re: cider status

2013-12-17 Thread Phillip Lord
Gary Johnson writes: > As another hacker who lives in Emacs, I found the nrepl -> cider transition > to be quite painless. It took me maybe an hour of reading the website docs, > installing/uninstalling packages with package.el, and updating the relevant > sections of my .emacs.d/init.el file.

Re: cider status

2013-12-16 Thread n aipmoro
On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Gary Johnson wrote: > It took me maybe an hour of reading the website docs, > installing/uninstalling packages with package.el, and updating the relevant > sections of my .emacs.d/init.el file. Not to poo-poo on anyone's parade, > but it really did seem pretty s

Re: cider status

2013-12-16 Thread Cedric Greevey
On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Gary Johnson wrote: > Just to inject another sample into the population: > > As another hacker who lives in Emacs, I found the nrepl -> cider > transition to be quite painless. It took me maybe an hour of reading the > website docs, installing/uninstalling packag

Re: cider status

2013-12-16 Thread Gary Johnson
Just to inject another sample into the population: As another hacker who lives in Emacs, I found the nrepl -> cider transition to be quite painless. It took me maybe an hour of reading the website docs, installing/uninstalling packages with package.el, and updating the relevant sections of my .

Re: cider status

2013-12-16 Thread Phillip Lord
Tim Visher writes: >> So, I have used MELPA before, but I found living on the bleeding edge >> for all of my packages is bit painful; the overall stability of my Emacs >> setup dropped considerably. I fear this will remain while many package >> developers use a "dirty head" versioning system (myse

Re: cider status

2013-12-13 Thread Rostislav Svoboda
> I can’t know what problems people encounter is they don’t tell me. You may ask somebody to test your changes before you publish them. Pardon me in case you did so. It seems like people were not listening. Anyway you should be prepared for this eventuality too and have an undo-scenario. Bost --

Re: cider status

2013-12-13 Thread Bozhidar Batsov
On Friday, December 13, 2013 at 7:17 PM, Sean Corfield wrote: > On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 11:43 PM, Adrian Mowat (mailto:adrian.mo...@gmail.com)> wrote: > > Is cider just a new release of nrepl.el or a different thing entirely? > > > Well, it's a "new release" insofar as it's an updated version

Re: cider status

2013-12-13 Thread Sean Corfield
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 11:43 PM, Adrian Mowat wrote: > Is cider just a new release of nrepl.el or a different thing entirely? Well, it's a "new release" insofar as it's an updated version of nrepl.el. In order to switch to it, however, you have to remove nrepl.el _and all packages that depend on

Re: cider status

2013-12-13 Thread Cedric Greevey
On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 2:43 AM, Adrian Mowat wrote: > > > Is cider just a new release of nrepl.el or a different thing entirely? > The former. Sorry to be a noob, but this is awfully confusing to the uninitiated. > Of course it is -- it's emacs. -- -- You received this message because you a

Re: cider status

2013-12-13 Thread Tim Visher
Hi Phil, On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 4:57 AM, Phillip Lord wrote: > Bozhidar Batsov writes: >> On Tuesday, November 19, 2013 4:56:05 PM UTC+2, Phillip Lord wrote: >>> I discovered one of the reasons for my issues with stability yesterday. >>> The version of clojure-test-mode on marmalade still depen

Re: cider status

2013-12-13 Thread Phillip Lord
Bozhidar Batsov writes: > On Tuesday, November 19, 2013 4:56:05 PM UTC+2, Phillip Lord wrote: >> >> >> I discovered one of the reasons for my issues with stability yesterday. >> The version of clojure-test-mode on marmalade still depends on nrepl >> (rather than cider), so, despite my best effor

Re: cider status

2013-12-13 Thread Bozhidar Batsov
nrepl.el was renamed to cider after version 0.2. You should be using cider :-) -- Cheers, Bozhidar On Friday, December 13, 2013 at 9:43 AM, Adrian Mowat wrote: > > > Is cider just a new release of nrepl.el or a different thing entirely? > > Sorry to be a noob, but this is awfully confusing

Re: cider status

2013-12-12 Thread Adrian Mowat
Is cider just a new release of nrepl.el or a different thing entirely? Sorry to be a noob, but this is awfully confusing to the uninitiated. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegr

Re: cider status

2013-12-12 Thread Bozhidar Batsov
On Tuesday, November 19, 2013 4:56:05 PM UTC+2, Phillip Lord wrote: > > > I discovered one of the reasons for my issues with stability yesterday. > The version of clojure-test-mode on marmalade still depends on nrepl > (rather than cider), so, despite my best efforts to remove nrepl.el it > was

Re: cider status

2013-12-12 Thread Bozhidar Batsov
On Wednesday, November 13, 2013 1:50:32 AM UTC+2, Tim Visher wrote: > > While I'm glad to hear that there are users out there for whom cider > is working great, I would still say based on following the project on > GitHub that there are far too many issues being filed based on > function names

Re: cider status

2013-12-12 Thread Bozhidar Batsov
On Tuesday, November 12, 2013 5:10:43 PM UTC+2, John Hume wrote: > > The last (non-authoritative) word on cider on this mailing list[1] was > that it is unstable. Is that really the case? Is it just a matter of many > packages that depend on it not being updated? > I'm cider's primary maintaine

Re: cider status

2013-11-20 Thread Phillip Lord
I don't normally use test-mode as it happens -- my main library fails to test correctly in test-mode while working when run through lein for reasons that I have never determined. Clean tests feel nicer anyway. I'm hoping ritz updates soon -- name changes have to happen sometimes, and making the f

Re: cider status

2013-11-19 Thread Colin Yates
That's the culprit - I was wondering why nrepl wouldn't disappear! For me, cider has been rock solid with midje-mode, but I am not really exercising it too much. On Tuesday, November 19, 2013 2:56:05 PM UTC, Phillip Lord wrote: > > > I discovered one of the reasons for my issues with stability y

Re: cider status

2013-11-19 Thread Phillip Lord
I discovered one of the reasons for my issues with stability yesterday. The version of clojure-test-mode on marmalade still depends on nrepl (rather than cider), so, despite my best efforts to remove nrepl.el it was still getting pulled back in. Fun and games! Phil Phillip Lord writes: > I ha

Re: cider status

2013-11-13 Thread Phillip Lord
Norman Richards writes: > On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 10:22 AM, Phillip Lord > wrote: >> >> I have tried it a couple of times and keep reverting back to nrepl. One >> of the biggest issues is nrepl-ritz which depends on nrepl and not >> nrepl-client. So switching to cider appears to mean ditching rit

Re: cider status

2013-11-12 Thread Tim Visher
While I'm glad to hear that there are users out there for whom cider is working great, I would still say based on following the project on GitHub that there are far too many issues being filed based on function names not being defined etc. to consider the current release stable. As always, YMMV.

Re: cider status

2013-11-12 Thread Gary Trakhman
Stable for me, the only outside tool I use that relies on it is ac-nrepl, but switching the hooks over for cider was painless. On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 12:35 PM, Norman Richards wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 10:22 AM, Phillip Lord < > phillip.l...@newcastle.ac.uk> wrote: >> >> I have tried i

Re: cider status

2013-11-12 Thread Norman Richards
On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 10:22 AM, Phillip Lord wrote: > > I have tried it a couple of times and keep reverting back to nrepl. One > of the biggest issues is nrepl-ritz which depends on nrepl and not > nrepl-client. So switching to cider appears to mean ditching ritz. Although I don't understand

Re: cider status

2013-11-12 Thread Phillip Lord
I have tried it a couple of times and keep reverting back to nrepl. One of the biggest issues is nrepl-ritz which depends on nrepl and not nrepl-client. So switching to cider appears to mean ditching ritz. Name changes always cause a significant amount of distruption. I understand the rationale

cider status

2013-11-12 Thread John D. Hume
The last (non-authoritative) word on cider on this mailing list[1] was that it is unstable. Is that really the case? Is it just a matter of many packages that depend on it not being updated? I tried checking the official mailing list[2] and was surprised to find that it's private. I'm trying to u