Re: CCW bug [SEVERE]

On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 11:19 PM, Fluid Dynamics wrote: > This is a really weird one, when you think about it. How the heck does a > programmer make a mistake that results in the *file save* function going > into an *infinite loop*? At least it didn't go into an infinite loop > filling my filesys

Re: CCW bug [SEVERE]

On Sunday, October 26, 2014 2:07:16 AM UTC-4, David Della Costa wrote: > > Here's the counterclockwise project home page, as far as I can tell: > > https://code.google.com/p/counterclockwise/ > > Issue tracker: > > https://code.google.com/p/counterclockwise/issues/list > > Users google group:

Re: CCW bug [SEVERE]

Here's the counterclockwise project home page, as far as I can tell: https://code.google.com/p/counterclockwise/ Issue tracker: https://code.google.com/p/counterclockwise/issues/list Users google group: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/clojuredev-users I think you'd get a lot more mile

Re: CCW bug [SEVERE]

On Sunday, October 26, 2014 1:04:49 AM UTC-4, danneu wrote: > > Fluid Dynamics wrote: > >> I do not ever want to see anything purportedly "STABLE" do something like >> that ever again >> > > There are a lot of things I do not ever want to see. > > I don't want to see debt collectors or clojure st

Re: CCW bug [SEVERE]

On Saturday, October 25, 2014 10:42:24 PM UTC-4, tbc++ wrote: > > "What if my file had been corrupted, or truncated and only the first 42 > bytes of the new version written thus far, or something like that at the > moment when the hang started?" > > So there's this new cool thing out there called

Re: CCW bug [SEVERE]

Fluid Dynamics wrote: > I do not ever want to see anything purportedly "STABLE" do something like > that ever again > There are a lot of things I do not ever want to see. I don't want to see debt collectors or clojure stacktraces or my uncle Frank. Unfortunately, demanding that I don't see t

Re: Demoralising experience trying to install on Win 7

Hi Geoff, What path from clojure.org led you to believe that leiningen was necessary to run Clojure? I would be happy to fix the docs. The instructions at http://clojure.org/getting_started should have you up and running with Clojure on Windows in no time. Stu On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 10:17 AM,

Re: CCW bug [SEVERE]

"What if my file had been corrupted, or truncated and only the first 42 bytes of the new version written thus far, or something like that at the moment when the hang started?" So there's this new cool thing out there called a "version control system". One of the more popular programs in this categ

CCW bug [SEVERE]

Would somebody mind explaining to me why I just had CCW 0.28.1.STABLE001 hang with 100% CPU usage when I edited this line: := (= v cr to this: = (= v cr and then hit control-S? I do not ever want to see anything purportedly "STABLE" do so

Demoralising experience trying to install on Win 7

Try just going through light table. I'd long had problems trying to go through Windows. But when I installed light table I had no problems at all. I owe my present job to light table :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this

Re: Demoralising experience trying to install on Win 7

One of my goals with Cursive was to make this very thing easier, since lein on Windows does seem to be fraught with peril for newcomers and those not accustomed to the command line. Cursive, like CCW, bundles lein to avoid this sort of pain. Unfortunately I've been lazy and there is one critical pi

Re: Demoralising experience trying to install on Win 7

Right, current lein-win-installer works if the the user has wget installed, the logic to fallback on curl is flawed. The newer lein.bat ( https://raw.githubusercontent.com/technomancy/leiningen/master/bin/lein.bat) works with regard to the wget/curl fallback. but fails on self-install here. C:

Re: Demoralising experience trying to install on Win 7

oh, sorry, yeah, I meant curl :) On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 11:00 PM, Kevin Ilchmann Jørgensen < kijm...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hey David, > > Does it really provide wget? I got an curl here. > > /Kevin > > > On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 11:52 PM, David Powell > wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I wrote the leininge

Re: Demoralising experience trying to install on Win 7

Hey David, Does it really provide wget? I got an curl here. /Kevin On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 11:52 PM, David Powell wrote: > Hi, > > I wrote the leiningen installer for Windows. It was working. > It simply downloads lein.bat from Leinignen stable, and provides a working > wget, and configures

Re: Demoralising experience trying to install on Win 7

Hi, I wrote the leiningen installer for Windows. It was working. It simply downloads lein.bat from Leinignen stable, and provides a working wget, and configures things. I'm not sure what is going on, but for some reason "call" was added in certain places in the bat file in 2.5.0, and this seems

Re: Demoralising experience trying to install on Win 7

I'd like to chime in with my view on the experiences, that clojure and haskell provide, respectively, if only to highlight some of the upshots. Clojure has been staying very true to its perception as a "hosted language". This caters to my needs very well, because I've found in every real project,

Re: Particle system with Quil

Allrighty that works, thanks a lot. haven't debugged a whole lot of clojure, but update-in makes sense. thanks! On Friday, October 24, 2014 5:18:01 PM UTC+2, Fluid Dynamics wrote: > > On Friday, October 24, 2014 11:14:56 AM UTC-4, Fluid Dynamics wrote: >> >> On Friday, October 24, 2014 10:42:37

Re: Demoralising experience trying to install on Win 7

Microsoft not wanting to confuse the end user ?!?!?!? I am baffled :))) Luc P. > I'll take a wild guess and say the "flashing" properly is a console with a > message Microsoft don't want to confuse you with. > > That said, the message i get here, is that wget is missing. Leiningen ships > with

Re: Demoralising experience trying to install on Win 7

I'll take a wild guess and say the "flashing" properly is a console with a message Microsoft don't want to confuse you with. That said, the message i get here, is that wget is missing. Leiningen ships with curl.exe. Not knowing any bat syntax at all, i was enable to get lein.bat downloading by u

RE: Demoralising experience trying to install on Win 7

Not to contradict anything that you say, because I agree that "to run clojure you need to install leiningen" is a confusing message, there is an easier way to a REPL, which is Clojure.org -> download. Download clojure-1.6.jar, then run this with java -- something like java -jar clojure-1.6.jar

Re: Demoralising experience trying to install on Win 7

Hey Geoff, I just wanted to say that I really appreciate you bringing a detailed walkthrough of your experience and the pain points here. It certainly highlights some obstacles and things that can be better. I will be discussing this more with other people at Cognitect and I would like to make

Re: Demoralising experience trying to install on Win 7

Geoff: Just to verify your experience, I tried installing Leiningen on a Windows 7 machine I had handy. When you say "Dug around the git site and found a recent .bat file that's supposed to work with the latest Leiningen 2. Again, the shell flashed and crashed." It sounds like you double-clicked

Re: Demoralising experience trying to install on Win 7

Hi Andy Thanks for the moderate and reasoned response! I've worked on Open Source projects myself and realise the realities. But this is a big project, and ignoring the needs of new Windows users is surely hurting it significantly? If this was prioritised, I suspect someone could be found to

Re: Demoralising experience trying to install on Win 7

Geoff: I hesitated before replying, because I was concerned that anything I could say other than "we'll get right on that" will sound at best like an excuse, or at its worst like a dismissal. The tone I am hoping to achieve here is a neutral factual explanation. Please try to read it that way.

Re: Demoralising experience trying to install on Win 7

Thanks for the tips, Jony - I've finally made it. Here's the contrast between setting up Haskell and setting up Clojure: *HASKELL* 1) Go to the homepage and download the Haskell Platform as an .exe 2) Install and use *CLOJURE* 1) Go to the homepage and discover I have to go to the Leiningen si

Re: Demoralising experience trying to install on Win 7

I've changed the Leiningen installer, so that it uses wget instead of curl. That should fix the problems you were having. I've only only tested this on my Windows 7 VM, so please try it out. Download it here: https://github.com/t6/leiningen-win-installer/releases -- You received this message b

Re: Demoralising experience trying to install on Win 7

Hi, Just as Jony said and I tried to make clear, there is an relativ easy way to get started (I did this a few hours ago on a new W7 installation) 1. set JAVA_HOME path 2. Download: leiningen-win-installer-1.0 from http://leiningen-win-installer.djpowell.net/ 3. Download wget from http://gnuwin3

Re: Demoralising experience trying to install on Win 7

I recently installed leiningen on some Windows machines, with success, although there was a little bit of fiddling. I used the .bat approach. Did you manage to note the error message that the .bat generated when it crashed? That would be the first step (i.e. run it from a command prompt window

Re: Demoralising experience trying to install on Win 7

If you're not an Eclipse fan, note that there's also the Cursive IDE. It's based on IntelliJ IDEA. As far as I know, it does not - yet - come as a standalone product, but I'm sure it's pretty easy to install the community edition first, and then install the Cursive plugin on top of it following th

Re: Demoralising experience trying to install on Win 7

> > Hi folks > Thanks for the suggestions! 1. Sven - yes, I have the SDK for Java 8 and JAVA_HOME is set correctly 2. Divyansh - thanks - Clooj works on my box, but as you say it's hardly a long-term solution... 3. Phillip - I've tried the installer, as I said, but it doesn't work.

Re: Demoralising experience trying to install on Win 7

Counterclockwise/Standalone requires only java 7 or 8 as a pre-requisite. Then it's just a download/unzip/start process : http://doc.ccw-ide.org/documentation.html#install-as-standalone-product It bundles leiningen 2014-10-25 3:44 GMT+02:00 Geoff Caplan : > Hi > > Wanting to get Clojure runni

CljOS - An OOP system on Clojure

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RE: Demoralising experience trying to install on Win 7

You could try this, although I don't have a windows box handy,, so can't vouch for it. http://leiningen-win-installer.djpowell.net/ From: clojure@googlegroups.com [clojure@googlegroups.com] on behalf of Geoff Caplan [ghcap...@gmail.com] Sent: 25 Octobe

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Re: Demoralising experience trying to install on Win 7

I know this is not a real solution, but you can download Clooj and get started right away. It's a pretty decent environment, and you can use it till you have a proper install. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups