Re: [Clamav-users] daily.db.clamav.or.id : clamav db update via DNS

2004-08-21 Thread Mike Cathey
Comcast's caching resolvers appear to ignore TTLs. I've ran into this on a couple occasions. :\ On Sat, 2004-08-21 at 17:24, Robert Blayzor wrote: > maybe we should just have a ton of public mirrors We already have a ton of public mirrors. ;) Seriously though, if you'd like to host a mirror, c

Re: [Clamav-users] daily.db.clamav.or.id : clamav db update via DNS

2004-08-21 Thread Robert Blayzor
Ok, so we have freshclam, but what about making the databases available via rsync? rsync is a lot more efficient when transfering files like this where just the "diffs" to the files are sent. The problem with the DNS is how often people look for changes. If the TTL is low and people monitor i

Re: [Clamav-users] daily.db.clamav.or.id : clamav db update via DNS

2004-08-21 Thread D.J. Fan
At 08:06 21.08.2004 -0600, you wrote: That"s why the new method of using DNS to cache the version number will be a much better solution and I think it will allow more frequent checks without burdening the mirrors and shifting the load to the DNS infrastructure. I am not a DNS expert by any means an

Re: [Clamav-users] daily.db.clamav.or.id : clamav db update via DNS

2004-08-21 Thread Erich Titl
At 08:06 21.08.2004 -0600, you wrote: That"s why the new method of using DNS to cache the version number will be a much better solution and I think it will allow more frequent checks without burdening the mirrors and shifting the load to the DNS infrastructure. I am not a DNS expert by any means an

Re: [Clamav-users] daily.db.clamav.or.id : clamav db update via DNS

2004-08-21 Thread D.J. Fan
That"s why the new method of using DNS to cache the version number will be a much better solution and I think it will allow more frequent checks without burdening the mirrors and shifting the load to the DNS infrastructure. I am not a DNS expert by any means and I may be way off in left field here

Re: [Clamav-users] daily.db.clamav.or.id : clamav db update via DNS

2004-08-13 Thread Erich Titl
Tomasz Kojm wrote: On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 22:04:31 +0200 Erich Titl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: become an issue). I believe if such a process can verify the md5sum of the input file against a publicly known md5sum of the original input, then to some extent a cdv file could be created locally. The si

Re: [Clamav-users] daily.db.clamav.or.id : clamav db update via DNS

2004-08-13 Thread Erich Titl
Hi At 21:41 13.08.2004, you wrote: Erich Titl wanted us to know: >Nice, we could actually build a wrapper around freshclam to only fetch when >there is a new version ready. It already does this. Yes, but it uses TCP, not hierarchically distributed servers, all this has been discussed lately. DNS i

Re: [Clamav-users] daily.db.clamav.or.id : clamav db update via DNS

2004-08-13 Thread Martin Konold
Am Friday 13 August 2004 22:05 schrieb Damian Menscher: Hi, > other ideas. But still, checking DNS for an update means a single UDP > packet each way (which might even get cached). In the propose use case the DNS info is most probably cached by the next ISP already. > Downloading the first

Re: [Clamav-users] daily.db.clamav.or.id : clamav db update via DNS

2004-08-13 Thread Tomasz Kojm
On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 22:04:31 +0200 Erich Titl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > become an issue). I believe if such a process can verify the md5sum of > the input file against a publicly known md5sum of the original input, > then to some extent a cdv file could be created locally. The signature You do

Re: [Clamav-users] daily.db.clamav.or.id : clamav db update via DNS

2004-08-13 Thread Todd Lyons
Damian Menscher wanted us to know: >Good to know, and maybe that means we're wasting our time on all these >other ideas. But still, checking DNS for an update means a single UDP >packet each way (which might even get cached). Yeah, I can see the simplicity and advantage of such a method. -- Re

Re: [Clamav-users] daily.db.clamav.or.id : clamav db update via DNS

2004-08-13 Thread Damian Menscher
On Fri, 13 Aug 2004, Todd Lyons wrote: > Erich Titl wanted us to know: > > >Nice, we could actually build a wrapper around freshclam to only fetch when > >there is a new version ready. > > It already does this. > > It only retrives the first 512 bytes of data from each CVD file. Here > is what a s

Re: [Clamav-users] daily.db.clamav.or.id : clamav db update via DNS

2004-08-13 Thread Erich Titl
At 21:13 13.08.2004, you wrote: On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 at 19:48:34 +0200, Erich Titl wrote: [...] > 7) rebuild a .CVD file > > I have not been able to rebuild the cvd file using sigtool, so this is for > someone with more sigtool experience, but the diff of the two files show > that a patch is easily

Re: [Clamav-users] daily.db.clamav.or.id : clamav db update via DNS

2004-08-13 Thread Todd Lyons
Erich Titl wanted us to know: >Nice, we could actually build a wrapper around freshclam to only fetch when >there is a new version ready. It already does this. 12:39:51.553344 IP 10.1.1.240.41996 > 65.77.42.207.80: P 1:145(144) ack 1 win 5840 0x: 4500 00c4 1b41 4000 4006 a6e6 0a

Re: [Clamav-users] daily.db.clamav.or.id : clamav db update via DNS

2004-08-13 Thread Tomasz Papszun
On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 at 19:48:34 +0200, Erich Titl wrote: [...] > 7) rebuild a .CVD file > > I have not been able to rebuild the cvd file using sigtool, so this is for > someone with more sigtool experience, but the diff of the two files show > that a patch is easily feasible You can't rebuild a

Re: [Clamav-users] daily.db.clamav.or.id : clamav db update via DNS

2004-08-13 Thread Erich Titl
At 13:17 13.08.2004, you wrote: Hi, Following the long thread of "Idea for more timely virusdb updates", I have put together a basic system of putting daily.cvd in DNS TXT records. It stores current version of daily.cvd, new signatures, and what time a particular signature was added. Which means

Re: [Clamav-users] daily.db.clamav.or.id : clamav db update via DNS

2004-08-13 Thread Fajar Nugraha
On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 14:01:49 +0200 Tomasz Papszun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 at 18:17:19 +0700, Fajar A. Nugraha wrote: I have put together a basic system of putting daily.cvd in DNS TXT records. [...] Though lacking secure digital signing, quite interesting real solution of

Re: [Clamav-users] daily.db.clamav.or.id : clamav db update via DNS

2004-08-13 Thread Tomasz Papszun
On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 at 18:17:19 +0700, Fajar A. Nugraha wrote: > > Following the long thread of "Idea for more timely virusdb updates", I > have put together > a basic system of putting daily.cvd in DNS TXT records. [...] Though lacking secure digital signing, quite interesting real solution of