Re: [Clamav-users] EOL

2010-04-18 Thread Spiro Harvey
> So ClamAV as a package won't silently 'not work' for the safety of > users - and this has been the justification for their approach to > this issue. But at the very same time they are recommending a setup > which will silently not scan mail if there's a problem with ClamAV. I guess it depends

Re: [Clamav-users] EOL

2010-04-18 Thread Simon Hobson
Christopher X. Candreva wrote: > And you can cut the crap about "well you should have configured your system to not stop when ClamAV stopped" - that's rubbish because it's already been made perfectly clear right at the start of one of these threads that the project team consider any configu

Re: [Clamav-users] EOL

2010-04-18 Thread Giampaolo Tomassoni
> Giampaolo Tomassoni wrote: > >> In response to your example, that was a DOS attack and is illegal. > >> Microsoft updates have causes systems including servers to fail and > >> crash, should you be petitioning to have Microsoft prosecuted under > >> this law? > >> > > > > It happens. > > > > Anyw

Re: [Clamav-users] EOL

2010-04-18 Thread Jim Preston
Giampaolo Tomassoni wrote: In response to your example, that was a DOS attack and is illegal. Microsoft updates have causes systems including servers to fail and crash, should you be petitioning to have Microsoft prosecuted under this law? It happens. Anyway, the fact is that you keep com

Re: [Clamav-users] EOL

2010-04-18 Thread Christopher X. Candreva
On Sun, 18 Apr 2010, Simon Hobson wrote: > And you can cut the crap about "well you should have configured your > system to not stop when ClamAV stopped" - that's rubbish because it's > already been made perfectly clear right at the start of one of these > threads that the project team consider

Re: [Clamav-users] EOL

2010-04-18 Thread Giampaolo Tomassoni
> In response to your example, that was a DOS attack and is illegal. > Microsoft updates have causes systems including servers to fail and > crash, should you be petitioning to have Microsoft prosecuted under > this law? It happens. Anyway, the fact is that you keep comparing two different thing.

Re: [Clamav-users] EOL

2010-04-18 Thread Simon Hobson
Jim Preston wrote: Over here, if I step out into traffic and get hit it is my fault. But suppose you walk out across a crossing where the "WALK" is lit (green man over here) and the traffic has a red light - but someone screams through ignoring the red light and gets you ? That is a better

Re: [Clamav-users] EOL

2010-04-17 Thread Ralf Quint
At 02:03 PM 4/17/2010, Jim Preston wrote: Ralf Quint wrote: How can people trust any Open Source software if someone else decides at will which operational systems are being shut down, which services are being interrupted. By configuring your systems to be tolerant of such failures of softwa

Re: [Clamav-users] EOL

2010-04-17 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Sat, 17 Apr 2010, Jim Preston wrote: ...snip.. According to this reasoning, I know of website that consistently causes browsers to shut down. This website is a legitimate business site, Should this site be prosecuted under this law? In response to your examp

Re: [Clamav-users] EOL

2010-04-17 Thread tBB
lists wrote: > Anything else I can help you with? Don't let the door hit you on the way out. -- Q: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. A: Why is putting a reply at the top of the message frowned upon? ___ Help us build a comprehen

Re: [Clamav-users] EOL

2010-04-17 Thread Jim Preston
Ralf Quint wrote: At 01:14 PM 4/17/2010, Jim Preston wrote: First, anyones system that stopped sending mail, it was not a malicious act just that their system can not handle the signature update that was sent out. Secondly, they all had both the chance to update before it happened OR configur

Re: [Clamav-users] EOL

2010-04-17 Thread Jim Preston
Simon Hobson wrote: Jim Preston wrote: According to this reasoning, I know of website that consistently causes browsers to shut down. This website is a legitimate business site, Should this site be prosecuted under this law? In response to your example, that was a DOS attack and is illegal.

Re: [Clamav-users] EOL

2010-04-17 Thread Simon Hobson
Jim Preston wrote: According to this reasoning, I know of website that consistently causes browsers to shut down. This website is a legitimate business site, Should this site be prosecuted under this law? In response to your example, that was a DOS attack and is illegal. Microsoft updates ha

Re: [Clamav-users] EOL

2010-04-17 Thread Ralf Quint
At 01:14 PM 4/17/2010, Jim Preston wrote: First, anyones system that stopped sending mail, it was not a malicious act just that their system can not handle the signature update that was sent out. Secondly, they all had both the chance to update before it happened OR configure their systems to

Re: [Clamav-users] EOL

2010-04-17 Thread Jim Preston
lists wrote: On Sat, 2010-04-17 at 13:14 -0700, Jim Preston wrote: lists wrote: Lots of interesting views. Yes, people should have updated. However, this act of maliciously killing critical servers to score a point is the kind of thing malware writers do. It is also illegal in the UK un

Re: [Clamav-users] EOL

2010-04-17 Thread Jim Preston
Simon Hobson wrote: lists wrote: Lots of interesting views. Yes, people should have updated. However, this act of maliciously killing critical servers to score a point is the kind of thing malware writers do. It is also illegal in the UK under the computer misuse act. Insisting they update 'or

Re: [Clamav-users] EOL

2010-04-17 Thread Simon Hobson
lists wrote: Lots of interesting views. Yes, people should have updated. However, this act of maliciously killing critical servers to score a point is the kind of thing malware writers do. It is also illegal in the UK under the computer misuse act. Insisting they update 'or else' is blackmail. H

Re: [Clamav-users] EOL

2010-04-17 Thread lists
On Sat, 2010-04-17 at 13:14 -0700, Jim Preston wrote: > lists wrote: > > Lots of interesting views. Yes, people should have updated. However, > > this act of maliciously killing critical servers to score a point is the > > kind of thing malware writers do. It is also illegal in the UK under the > >

Re: [Clamav-users] EOL

2010-04-17 Thread Jim Preston
lists wrote: Lots of interesting views. Yes, people should have updated. However, this act of maliciously killing critical servers to score a point is the kind of thing malware writers do. It is also illegal in the UK under the computer misuse act. Insisting they update 'or else' is blackmail. He

[Clamav-users] EOL

2010-04-17 Thread lists
Lots of interesting views. Yes, people should have updated. However, this act of maliciously killing critical servers to score a point is the kind of thing malware writers do. It is also illegal in the UK under the computer misuse act. Insisting they update 'or else' is blackmail. Here we have two

Re: [Clamav-users] EOL signature for <= 0.94.2 is live

2010-04-15 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Fri, 2010-04-16 at 03:29 +0200, Gianluigi Tiesi wrote: > On 16/04/2010 2.03, Steve Holdoway wrote: > > On Thu, 2010-04-15 at 22:27 +0300, Török Edwin wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> The EOL signature for ClamAV <= 0.94.2 is now live (daily 10749). > >> > >> Best regards, > > I'd be grateful for a simp

Re: [Clamav-users] EOL signature for <= 0.94.2 is live

2010-04-15 Thread Gianluigi Tiesi
On 16/04/2010 2.03, Steve Holdoway wrote: > On Thu, 2010-04-15 at 22:27 +0300, Török Edwin wrote: >> Hi, >> >> The EOL signature for ClamAV <= 0.94.2 is now live (daily 10749). >> >> Best regards, > I'd be grateful for a simple method of getting havp working under lenny > now... > > Steve > add

Re: [Clamav-users] EOL signature for <= 0.94.2 is live

2010-04-15 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Thu, 2010-04-15 at 22:27 +0300, Török Edwin wrote: > Hi, > > The EOL signature for ClamAV <= 0.94.2 is now live (daily 10749). > > Best regards, I'd be grateful for a simple method of getting havp working under lenny now... Steve -- Steve Holdoway http://www.greengecko.co.nz MSN: st...@gre

[Clamav-users] EOL signature for <= 0.94.2 is live

2010-04-15 Thread Török Edwin
Hi, The EOL signature for ClamAV <= 0.94.2 is now live (daily 10749). Best regards, --Edwin ___ Help us build a comprehensive ClamAV guide: visit http://wiki.clamav.net http://www.clamav.net/support/ml