Jim Preston wrote:
Over here, if I step out into traffic and get hit it is my fault.
But suppose you walk out across a crossing where the "WALK" is lit (green man over here) and the traffic has a red light - but someone screams through ignoring the red light and gets you ?
That is a better analogy. The **expectation** of any sane admin isn't that some random project will push out random updates deliberately designed to stop his working system from working.
And you can cut the crap about "well you should have configured your system to not stop when ClamAV stopped" - that's rubbish because it's already been made perfectly clear right at the start of one of these threads that the project team consider any configuration that doesn't break if ClamAV isn't working right to be broken.
Yes, it would have been nice to be in a position to have done a distro upgrade (with all the testing required) before now, but some of us haven't been able to for a variety of reasons. That does not give ANYONE (other than my management or users) the right to set out to punish me (and my users) for it - because that is what is happened, and some of you seem proud of that.
Yes, it would be better if I was running more up to date software - but I made a decision based on certain constraints and assumptions. One of those assumptions was that some third party would take it upon themselves to deliberately stop it working. Many people will now be wondering how safe it is to trust this project (and FOSS in general) - trust can take a lifetime to build up, and a moment to destroy.
Like I said, I can think of several ways it could have been handled without any significant effort (certainly less that has been expended on dealing with the backlash) and without significant (or with one option, any) inconvenience to people running up to date versions. The way it's been done, and especially the way it's been defended, makes certain people come across as very arrogant people who need to be careful they don't hurt themselves - it's long way down off a high horse.
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