[cctalk] Re: AI? Really?

2025-01-18 Thread Pete Turnbull via cctalk
On 18/01/2025 15:36, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: A little humor for the group. I also have a bunch of iRobot Roombas in my house.  Based on my experience with AI and robots I think there is no chance we will have to worry about any Terminators in the future. My robot vacuum has taken

[cctalk] Re: AI? Really?

2025-01-18 Thread Joseph S. Barrera III via cctalk
There will be Terminators, but they will all have the same bug where they point the gun at their own head while saying Pasta la VISA (brought to you by Carl's Jr). On Sat, Jan 18, 2025 at 1:30 PM ben via cctalk wrote: > On 2025-01-18 1:27 p.m., Pete Turnbull via cctalk wrote: > > On 18/01/2025

[cctalk] Re: AI? Really?

2025-01-18 Thread Rick Bensene via cctalk
From: Cameron Kaiser via cctalk [mailto:cctalk@classiccmp.org] Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2025 10:54 AM To: Chuck Guzis via cctalk Cc: Cameron Kaiser Subject: [cctalk] Re: AI? Really? Chuck G. wrote: >> I fear that before long, the WWW will be hopelessly polluted by >> AI-generated content

[cctalk] Re: AI? Really?

2025-01-18 Thread ben via cctalk
On 2025-01-18 1:27 p.m., Pete Turnbull via cctalk wrote: On 18/01/2025 15:36, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: A little humor for the group. I also have a bunch of iRobot Roombas in my house.  Based on my experience with AI and robots I think there is no chance we will have to worry about

[cctalk] Re: AI? Really?

2025-01-18 Thread Joseph S. Barrera III via cctalk
Humans can defecate in a river and make it toxic, but the effect is temporary. It takes Technology and PROGRESS to create POPs that will last forever. AI is to political discourse as POPs are to drinking water. But that's fine, as long

[cctalk] Re: Try Algol 68 on Windows

2025-01-18 Thread Frank Leonhardt via cctalk
On 17/01/2025 14:59, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote:  The high bit indicated laser on/off, and the rest of the bits were a 15-bit repeat count.  A token of all zero indicates the end of that raster line.  2 consecutive zero tokens indicates the end of the entire plot. That's pretty much the compr

[cctalk] Re: AI? Really?

2025-01-18 Thread Frank Leonhardt via cctalk
On 18/01/2025 19:17, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: Expert systems have always been considered a kind of AI system. What makes them somewhat different is that they actually have a decades-long track record of working. I remember learning these back in 1976, from visiting prof. Donald Mickie at t

[cctalk] Re: AI? Really?

2025-01-18 Thread Frank Leonhardt via cctalk
On 18/01/2025 18:11, Antonio Carlini via cctalk wrote: On 18/01/2025 16:53, Frank Leonhardt via cctalk wrote: This is what ChatGPT said about me: Is this the latest variation on goolging one's own name ? :-) It doesn't know me at all. I'm assuming that means I'm safe ... for now. In stack

[cctalk] Re: AI? Really?

2025-01-18 Thread Frank Leonhardt via cctalk
On 18/01/2025 15:36, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: A little humor for the group. Among my other "legacy" systems I also have and still fool around with a bunch of TRS-80's.  Believe it or  not, the Z80 based TRS-80's were among the systems for which a version of STVOS was available. Thought

[cctalk] AI? Really?

2025-01-18 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
A little humor for the group. Among my other "legacy" systems I also have and still fool around with a bunch of TRS-80's. Believe it or not, the Z80 based TRS-80's were among the systems for which a version of STVOS was available. Thought I would look to see if any of it was still floating ar

[cctalk] Re: AI? Really?

2025-01-18 Thread Alexander Schreiber via cctalk
On Sat, Jan 18, 2025 at 10:36:57AM -0500, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: > > A little humor for the group. > > Among my other "legacy" systems I also have and still fool around > with a bunch of TRS-80's. Believe it or not, the Z80 based TRS-80's > were among the systems for which a version

[cctalk] Re: AI? Really?

2025-01-18 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 1/18/25 08:53, Frank Leonhardt via cctalk wrote: > > Started off okay-ish. Then Atari 8-bit? Nope - never even owned one, > never mind writing a 6502 assembler for anything. Oh well,  I guess it > confused me with the real author of "Assemblotron, so I looked it up. > The product is completely

[cctalk] Re: AI? Really?

2025-01-18 Thread Antonio Carlini via cctalk
On 18/01/2025 17:08, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: I fear that before long, the WWW will be hopelessly polluted by AI-generated content. "Facts" will become irrelevant. I think this has already started and is progressing at pace, but AI is a late  to the party. We haven't noticed because nei

[cctalk] Re: AI? Really?

2025-01-18 Thread Antonio Carlini via cctalk
On 18/01/2025 16:53, Frank Leonhardt via cctalk wrote: This is what ChatGPT said about me: Is this the latest variation on goolging one's own name ? :-) It doesn't know me at all. I'm assuming that means I'm safe ... for now. Antonio -- Antonio Carlini anto...@acarlini.com

[cctalk] Re: AI? Really?

2025-01-18 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> > On 18/01/2025 16:53, Frank Leonhardt via cctalk wrote: >> This is what ChatGPT said about me: I learned a bit about the near-worthlessness of AI supplied web query results when I asked Google about international book mail rates. I asked twice -- the first time it told me it exists and p

[cctalk] Re: AI? Really?

2025-01-18 Thread Adrian Godwin via cctalk
AI is useful for getting funding, but nothing else. Always has been. On Sat, Jan 18, 2025 at 6:51 PM Paul Koning via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > > > > > On 18/01/2025 16:53, Frank Leonhardt via cctalk wrote: > >> This is what ChatGPT said about me: > > I learned a bit about the nea

[cctalk] Re: AI? Really?

2025-01-18 Thread Cameron Kaiser via cctalk
> I fear that before long, the WWW will be hopelessly polluted by > AI-generated content. "Facts" will become irrelevant. We call this "politics." -- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckai...

[cctalk] Re: AI? Really?

2025-01-18 Thread Wayne S via cctalk
And DEC used one to help configure systems. It would tell you if your configuration would work or if you left anything out. We wanted a Vax 785 with 6 massbuss adapters but it told us the buss was too long and would intermittently time out. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 18, 2025, at 11:17, Paul

[cctalk] Re: AI? Really?

2025-01-18 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 1/18/25 11:17, Paul Koning wrote: > > Expert systems have always been considered a kind of AI system. What makes > them somewhat different is that they actually have a decades-long track > record of working. I remember learning these back in 1976, from visiting > prof. Donald Mickie at th

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[cctalk] Re: AI? Really?

2025-01-18 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 1/18/25 10:56, Adrian Godwin via cctalk wrote: > AI is useful for getting funding, but nothing else. > Always has been. The problem is the chum bucket that everything related to expert systems and genetic algorithms is tossed into along with real LLM programs. For example, yesterday, while inf

[cctalk] Re: AI? Really?

2025-01-18 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Jan 18, 2025, at 2:13 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk > wrote: > > ... > He said, that the computerized version was more adroit at spotting decay > and could perform periodontal charting from radiographs without the > necessity of a hygienist poking at your gums with a probe. > > I'd call th

[cctalk] Re: AI? Really?

2025-01-18 Thread Wayne S via cctalk
They both died when Dr. Jones Journal stopped publication, as did many other topics. I miss that Magazine. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 18, 2025, at 11:40, Chuck Guzis via cctalk > wrote: > > On 1/18/25 11:17, Paul Koning wrote: >> > >> Expert systems have always been considered a kind of

[cctalk] Re: AI? Really?

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Skynet became self-aware on August 29, 1997, at 2:14 a.m. EDT.

[cctalk] Re: AI? Really?

2025-01-18 Thread Wayne S via cctalk
Make that Dr. DOBBS … Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 18, 2025, at 11:49, Wayne S wrote: > > They both died when Dr. Jones Journal stopped publication, as did many other > topics. > I miss that Magazine. > > Sent from my iPhone > >>> On Jan 18, 2025, at 11:40, Chuck Guzis via cctalk >>> wrot

[cctalk] Re: CDC Cyber 18x parts

2025-01-18 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
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