[cctalk] Re: Intel 4004(sp?)

Was there ever a COMPUTER using a 4004   that  you  cud  really  do  something or  did  tat finally arrive with the 8008  as  in the skelby shelby  sp? 8008 i now there  was an Intel   INTELIC 4 (?sp)    could n that  use 4004  or one of  the  later 4000 numbered proc. We have an intelec 8 and 8

[cctalk] Re: Intel 4004(sp?)

Damn typos  sorry Sent from AOL on Android On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 1:51 AM, ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote: Was there ever a COMPUTER using a 4004   that  you  cud  really  do  something or  did  tat finally arrive with the 8008  as  in the skelby shelby  sp? 8008 i now there  was an Intel 

[cctalk] Re: Intel 4004(sp?)

> On Nov 22, 2023, at 3:51 AM, ED SHARPE via cctalk > wrote: > > Was there ever a COMPUTER using a 4004 that you cud really do > something or did tat finally arrive with the 8008 as in the skelby shelby > sp? 8008 i now there was an Intel INTELIC 4 (?sp)could n that use

[cctalk] Re: Intel 4004

Please find someone who can take me off the mailing list. Carl Yoder hummer51...@gmail.com On 11/21/2023 12:24 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: ISTR a 4004 on one of the boards of my DTC300 Hytype I daisy wheel printers. (or has unrefreshed wetware dynamic RAM lost its content?) -- Grumpy

[cctalk] Re: Intel 4004(sp?)

Haven't caught up on the whole 4004 discussion here, but my understanding was that the 4004 and 8008 were effectively developed at the same time? And were announced or available about within one month of each other? On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 2:51 AM ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote: > Was there ever

[cctalk] Re: Intel 4004

In the headers of the mail that you sent is a line: List-Unsubscribe: If you already tried THAT and it did not work, then that would be important to know. On Wed, 22 Nov 2023, Carl Yoder via cctalk wrote: Please find someone who can take me off the mailin

[cctalk] Nice 32 dollar goodie to display your 4004 in!

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[cctalk] Re: Intel 4004(sp?)

On Wed, 22 Nov 2023, ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote: Was there ever a COMPUTER using a 4004   that  you  cud  really  do  something or  did  tat finally arrive with the 8008  as  in the skelby shelby  sp? 8008 i now there  was an Intel   INTELIC 4 (?sp)    could n that  use 4004  or one of  the  l

[cctalk] Re: Intel 4004(sp?)

> On Nov 22, 2023, at 6:06 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk > wrote: > > ... > Motorola tended to redesign from scratch, whereas Intel would modify their > previous design. Which might explain why the x86 ISA is such a convoluted tangle. Moto did those things too in various places, though: consid

[cctalk] Re: Intel 4004(sp?)

Motorola tended to redesign from scratch, whereas Intel would modify their previous design. On Wed, 22 Nov 2023, Paul Koning wrote: Which might explain why the x86 ISA is such a convoluted tangle. Although redesign from scratch will tend to produce a better product, modifying previous desig

[cctalk] Re: Intel 4004(sp?)

On 11/22/23 15:06, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > Therefore, it could be argued that Win11 can be run on a "heavily > modified modified 4004" Certainly possible, if not incredibly silly. --Chuck

[cctalk] Re: Intel 4004(sp?)

On 11/22/23 16:47, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > When the 5150 came out, the CP/M software companies, such as MicroPro > (Wordstar) and Sourcim (Supercalc), were able to port their products to > it much faster than anybody could port stuff to Macintosh.  Yup. I have vivid memories of the Intel

[cctalk] Re: Intel 4004(sp?)

On 2023-11-22 6:53 p.m., Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: On 11/22/23 16:47, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: Yup. I have vivid memories of the Intel rep telling us that not only was the 8086 compatible with the 8085, conversion could be automated through their ISIS-II based conversion program--and

[cctalk] Re: Intel 4004(sp?)

The Intlec 4 was no more or less a computer than the Altiar or IMSAI was. It didn't typically have as much RAM but one could write and run code on it. As for the F14 processor. For the purpose used, it was likely a DSP. More intended to do matrix multiplication using adds and shifts. This would b

[cctalk] Re: Intel 4004(sp?)

Ibad an intellectual 4 offered to me one time that had a 4040 in it. Is t a 4040 like a 5 but more of the aux chips integrated? Is instruction set the same? Sent from AOL on Android On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 8:34 PM, dwight via cctalk wrote: The Intlec 4 was no more or less a computer than

[cctalk] Re: Intel 4004(sp?)

On 11/22/23 19:08, ben via cctalk wrote: > for the most common sequences being shorter. 8 bit bytes only give space > for byte or word instructions, not both. Prefix bytes are good > compromise with the segmented 64K memory space. Data and code space are > optimized for 16 bits. You want 32 bits,

[cctalk] Re: Intel 4004(sp?)

- What were the key differences between the Intelec 4 and  our Intelec 8? - What are the possible  accessories  for Intelec 8? We have a dual floppy cabinet is all.  Years I saw  an Intel blue colored standalone paper tape punch and reader(we would like one!) Is there a good site that addresses 

[cctalk] Re: Intel 4004

As the one who helped Ray introduce the F14A CADC microprocessor to the public back in 1998, I'm intimately familiar with the story of its creation as well as its capabilities. Ray officially announced the CADC at VCF 2.0 in 1998. He was the keynote speaker. He brought along prototypes of the ch

[cctalk] Re: Intel 4004(sp?)

Not a COMPUTER but I have a Pro-log M900 EPROM burner that has a second source INS4004 on the board. This isn't my M900 (my INS4004 is white/gold), but here is a view of the board/chip: http://www.wolfgangrobel.de/programmer/img_m900/m900_06.jpg -W Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2023 09:36:19 -0500 From