> On Nov 22, 2023, at 3:51 AM, ED SHARPE via cctalk <cctalk@classiccmp.org> 
> wrote:
> 
> Was there ever a COMPUTER using a 4004   that  you  cud  really  do  
> something or  did  tat finally arrive with the 8008  as  in the skelby shelby 
>  sp? 8008 i now there  was an Intel   INTELIC 4 (?sp)    could n that  use 
> 4004  or one of  the  later 4000 numbered proc. We have an intelec 8 and 8 
> inch floppy  drives here at smecc musem .... always  wanted  a 4!Ed

Don't know about commercial products.  But a classmate of mine got Honors in 
Independent Study for a project where he built a useable general purpose 
computer out of a 4004, plus a boatload of other stuff.  It filled a wire-wrap 
panel board about 8 x 10 inches.  He wrote some software for it as well, and 
took it to a summer internship at one of the National Labs (in the Midwest -- 
Argonne?) where as I understand it they liked it enough to ask him for a copy 
of the system.  He graduated in 1975, so the work was done in the year or so 
leading up to that.

One complication was the terminal I/O (Teletype 33); originally he had a 
bit-banging interface for that, which isn't easy on a 4004.  At some point he 
finagled a UART chip out of one of the DEC field service engineers, I think 
that was one of the first single chip UARTs, used in the earlier DEC PDP-11 
terminal adapters.

        paul


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