RE: Fanuc PPR - Paper Tape Punch, Printer and Reader : Not quite working

2022-04-10 Thread Martin Bishop via cctalk
Hi Eric I have a pair of light boxes and a CRO on the job: - Modular Technology MT25-IV on the PPR side, - BlackBox TS50A on the D-9 side, - CRO on p2 & p3 This unit says it takes and is receiving 220V power I can see codes going to the unit, but nothing coming out

RE: Fanuc PPR - Paper Tape Punch, Printer and Reader : Not quite working

2022-04-10 Thread Martin Bishop via cctalk
Fred You have a good measure of my problem. As for my expertise: its 40 years since I left schoool with a PhD in Signal Processing, I'm currently designing with Xilinx Zynqs, and if the RS232 driver has to be pulled there is a Pace SX-80 on the bench in the workshop. I have a pair of light box

RE: Fanuc PPR - Paper Tape Punch, Printer and Reader : Not quite working

2022-04-10 Thread Martin Bishop via cctalk
Bill Your link to https://www.vintagecomputer.net/fanuc/FanucManuals1788.pdf "Fanuc System 6T-Model B" is very helpful. The reader fitted to the PPR is a A860-0066-T001. The readers referenced in the manual are close relatives. Importantly, the manual provides significantly more detail on cal

Re: Possibly going up to VCF, stuff I would like to sell/get to proper people pdp8/12/HP stuff

2022-04-10 Thread Jay Jaeger via cctalk
On 4/9/2022 2:42 PM, Chris Zach via cctalk wrote: Hi all! I'm thinking about going up to VCF in Wall next weekend. I haven't been to it since it was the Trenton Computer Fest (think late 1990's) so I'm not sure what the protocol is on tailgating, trading stuff or whatnot. Appears that they ha

Re: Fanuc PPR - Paper Tape Punch, Printer and Reader : Not quite working

2022-04-10 Thread Eric Moore via cctalk
Yep! That is my experience in remote mode, both driven via the panel or remotely. You know more than I do, I hope you get it figured out soon! The PPR is super fun to have on the bench if you have tapes to read or especially if you have a computer that works with paper tape. -Eric On Sun, Apr

RE: Fanuc PPR - Paper Tape Punch, Printer and Reader : Not quite working

2022-04-10 Thread Martin Bishop via cctalk
Eric Thanks for confirmation the reader should “just work”. Unfortunately it does not ... One other specific : can the PPR punch absolute binary tapes, e.g. for a PDP-11, one potential use. Or, is it limited to “alpha numeric” ASCII. Using the native controller, I can’t see any way of geti

RE: Fanuc PPR - Paper Tape Punch, Printer and Reader : Not quite working

2022-04-10 Thread Martin Bishop via cctalk
Chuck Thank you for the parallel port suggestion. I followed it up by opening the D-25 and reviewing the wiring. It looks very RS232 to me, the pin out I found is detailed in my 10 1314A Apr 22. That the punch and reader respond to RS232 input I think settles the issue - I was briefly optimi

Re: Fanuc PPR - Paper Tape Punch, Printer and Reader : Not quite working

2022-04-10 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 4/10/22 11:08, Martin Bishop wrote: > Chuck > > Thank you for the parallel port suggestion. I followed it up by opening the > D-25 and reviewing the wiring. It looks very RS232 to me, the pin out I > found is detailed in my 10 1314A Apr 22. That the punch and reader respond > to RS232 inp

Re: Fanuc PPR - Paper Tape Punch, Printer and Reader : Not quite working

2022-04-10 Thread Eric Moore via cctalk
Yep! You can absolutely punch straight binary to tape. There is an escape, the details escape me but are enshrined in my silly network attached paper tape program: https://github.com/emooreatx/FANUC-PPR -Eric On Sun, Apr 10, 2022, 12:43 PM Martin Bishop < mjd.bis...@emeritus-solutions.com> wrot

RE: Fanuc PPR - Paper Tape Punch, Printer and Reader : Not quite working

2022-04-10 Thread Martin Bishop via cctalk
Chuck My error, you said 20 mA current loop, I bowdlerised it as parallel port. I have a punch with a parallel interface ... I can't recollect ever using a current loop interface on equipment, although I have met many in old documents. 4 .. 20 mA current loops reporting e.g. pressure actuate

RE: Fanuc PPR - Paper Tape Punch, Printer and Reader : Not quite working

2022-04-10 Thread Martin Bishop via cctalk
Eric Thanks for the link and insight. $11, $12, $13, $14 $1B, $93 - preface with $1B (esc) and all should be well. Martin From: Eric Moore [mailto:mooreeric...@gmail.com] Sent: 10 April 2022 20:23 To: Martin Bishop Cc: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: Fanuc PPR

Re: Possibly going up to VCF, stuff I would like to sell/get to proper people pdp8/12/HP stuff

2022-04-10 Thread Ethan Dicks via cctalk
On Sat, Apr 9, 2022 at 3:43 PM Chris Zach via cctalk wrote: > I'm thinking about going up to VCF in Wall next weekend. 22-24 Apr, as mentioned... I should be there too. > I haven't been > to it since it was the Trenton Computer Fest (think late 1990's) Totally unrelated event. > so I'm > not

Re: Possibly going up to VCF, stuff I would like to sell/get to proper people pdp8/12/HP stuff

2022-04-10 Thread Mike Loewen via cctalk
On Sun, 10 Apr 2022, Ethan Dicks via cctalk wrote: On Sat, Apr 9, 2022 at 3:43 PM Chris Zach via cctalk wrote: I'm thinking about going up to VCF in Wall next weekend. Yes. There's a "consignment room" and you leave your stuff with labels and prices and there are volunteers staffing it to c

Dialcom, Telenet and The Source was Re: restoring a Silent 700 Model 765

2022-04-10 Thread Cameron Kaiser via cctalk
>>> 301 24 CONNECTED >>> DIALCOM NETWORK SYSTEM 10 >>> >> Please do scan these! It is hard as hell getting info on The Source >> and also on Dialcom! > > Yes, I definitely plan to transcribe them. There is potentially some > copyrighted material here but I think I can just excerpt that and still

Re: Dialcom, Telenet and The Source was Re: restoring a Silent 700 Model 765

2022-04-10 Thread Chris Zach via cctalk
Wow. Thanks for an excellent trip down memory lane. One oddity, I think I was dialing into TYMNET as when I would call in it would say. PLEASE TYPE YOUR TERMINAL IDENTIFIER You would type "A" for ASCII. This would print very slowly, character by character at about 110 baud. I think it was for

Re: Fanuc PPR - Paper Tape Punch, Printer and Reader : Not quite working

2022-04-10 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 4/10/22 12:23, Martin Bishop wrote: > Chuck > > My error, you said 20 mA current loop, I bowdlerised it as parallel port. I > have a punch with a parallel interface ... I can't recollect ever using a > current loop interface on equipment, although I have met many in old > documents. 4 ..