Re: 11/70 - original or 570 model more desirable?

2019-01-31 Thread Nigel Williams via cctalk
On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 2:49 PM Bill Degnan via cctech < cct...@classiccmp.org> wrote: > Random question > would you prefer having, if you had to pick only one, the original PDP > 11/70 or the newer "blue cabinets" PDP 11/70, ... > I think the decdatasystem 570 is pretty, but coloured like an ice

Plug+Play for PDP-11/40 panels - BlinkenBone update

2019-01-31 Thread Jörg Hoppe via cctalk
Hi guys, There is now a special 11/40 adapter board for the BlinkenBone system. With that you can plug a physical 11/40 panel to the extended SimH running on a BeagleBone. Surprisingly there was some demand for the 11/70 panel adapter, so adding the '40 panel may be worth mentioning. There

Re: 11/70 - original or 570 model more desirable?

2019-01-31 Thread Pontus Pihlgren via cctalk
On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 10:49:12PM -0500, Bill Degnan via cctech wrote: > Random question > would you prefer having, if you had to pick only one, the original PDP > 11/70 or the newer "blue cabinets" PDP 11/70, assuming both were complete > configurations with racks of storage etc as they would hav

Re: 11/70 - original or 570 model more desirable?

2019-01-31 Thread allison via cctalk
> On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 9:49 PM Bill Degnan via cctech < > cct...@classiccmp.org> wrote: > >> Random question >> would you prefer having, if you had to pick only one, the original PDP >> 11/70 or the newer "blue cabinets" PDP 11/70, assuming both were complete >> configurations with racks of st

Re: early PDP-11/45 info sought

2019-01-31 Thread Jay Jaeger via cctalk
On 1/27/2019 6:40 PM, Fritz Mueller via cctalk wrote: > Those reading through the recent "PDP-11/45 RSTS/E boot problem" thread here > will know that I've gotten to some corners of my 11/45 CPU now that don't > match up with the commonly available engineering drawings. > > My /45 is an early se

Re: 11/70 - original or 570 model more desirable?

2019-01-31 Thread Guy Sotomayor Jr via cctalk
I have both (though the H960 variant needs restoration). I actually find that the corporate blue cabinets to be easier to deal with. One aspect is that it’s a “package” rather than multiple H960 racks. Why is that important? Because the corporate cabinets did nice things like provide cable runs

Re: 11/70 - original or 570 model more desirable?

2019-01-31 Thread Glen Slick via cctalk
On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 7:49 PM Bill Degnan via cctech wrote: > > Random question > would you prefer having, if you had to pick only one, the original PDP > 11/70 or the newer "blue cabinets" PDP 11/70, assuming both were complete > configurations with racks of storage etc as they would have been

Re: 11/70 - original or 570 model more desirable?

2019-01-31 Thread Patrick Finnegan via cctalk
On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 12:56 PM Glen Slick via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 7:49 PM Bill Degnan via cctech > wrote: > > > > Random question > > would you prefer having, if you had to pick only one, the original PDP > > 11/70 or the newer "blue cabinets" PDP 11

Re: early PDP-11/45 info sought

2019-01-31 Thread Fritz Mueller via cctalk
> On Jan 31, 2019, at 9:19 AM, Jay Jaeger wrote: > > I am working on transcribing some DEC-O-Logs - more than are on > bitsavers that relate to the KB11-A and its cards. Oooh! I'm excited again! :-) > In the process, I came across KB11A-B0008 - which indicates that NPG, > PA, PB, LTC, ACLO

Re: 11/70 - original or 570 model more desirable?

2019-01-31 Thread Bill Degnan via cctalk
On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 12:57 PM Glen Slick via cctech < cct...@classiccmp.org> wrote: > On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 7:49 PM Bill Degnan via cctech > wrote: > > > > Random question > > would you prefer having, if you had to pick only one, the original PDP > > 11/70 or the newer "blue cabinets" PDP 11

RE: 11/70 - original or 570 model more desirable?

2019-01-31 Thread Rick Bensene via cctalk
Bill D. wrote: >Random question >would you prefer having, if you had to pick only one, the original PDP >11/70 or the newer "blue cabinets" PDP 11/70, assuming both were complete >configurations with racks of storage etc as they would have been sold, more >or less. >Assume space and power are not

Re: 11/70 - original or 570 model more desirable?

2019-01-31 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
Speaking of cabinet variants: if you ever run into a "Corita" cabinet, with the abstract art on the side, be sure to hang on to it. I'm not sure how many were built, probably not all that many. Another variation I know of: I think it was the Vaxstation-2 that came in a small roll-around cabine

Re: early PDP-11/45 info sought

2019-01-31 Thread Jay Jaeger via cctalk
I have completed my transcription of what I felt would be the most salient entries and information in those entries of the PDP-11/45 DEC-O-Logs. Curiously, there were no entries at all for the KB11-D. The transcripts are available on my Google Drive at https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B2v4WRwIS

Re: early PDP-11/45 info sought

2019-01-31 Thread Fritz Mueller via cctalk
> On Jan 31, 2019, at 11:47 AM, Jay Jaeger wrote: > > I have completed my transcription of what I felt would be the most > salient entries and information in those entries of the PDP-11/45 > DEC-O-Logs. > > The transcripts are available on my Google Drive at > > https://drive.google.com/open?

Re: early PDP-11/45 info sought

2019-01-31 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Jan 31, 2019, at 3:02 PM, Jay Jaeger via cctalk > wrote: > > On 1/31/2019 12:02 PM, Fritz Mueller via cctalk wrote: > > >> >> I don't actually have anything that uses the M8110; I am mostly interested >> in that one to understand how it co-evolved with the parity changes in the >> C

Re: early PDP-11/45 info sought

2019-01-31 Thread Jay Jaeger via cctalk
On 1/31/2019 12:02 PM, Fritz Mueller via cctalk wrote: > > I don't actually have anything that uses the M8110; I am mostly interested in > that one to understand how it co-evolved with the parity changes in the CPU > (sometimes its easier to understand if you can see both sides). > >cheer

Re: early PDP-11/45 info sought

2019-01-31 Thread Fritz Mueller via cctalk
> On Jan 31, 2019, at 12:02 PM, Jay Jaeger wrote: > > The parity change in the CPU was to change parity errors from vectoring > thru location 4 to vector through 114. Yes, but also, there was apparently rework of logic feeding the CONF console flag and associated abort signaling. Before the

DEC TKZ10 Tapes

2019-01-31 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
Does anyone have any DC6525 tape cartridges they would be willing to part with? One of the Expansion boxes on my VAX has a TKZ10 but none of the older QIC tapes I have can handle the format from this drive. bill

Tandy RS DWP-220 printer equivalent?

2019-01-31 Thread Ken Seefried via cctalk
My google-fu is failing me; forgive me. Is the Tandy DWP-220 daisy-wheel printer a rebrand/OEM of someone else? In particular, can I find ribbons and font wheels under another manufacturer? KJ

Re: 11/70 - original or 570 model more desirable?

2019-01-31 Thread Tom Uban via cctalk
While I love the original purple tones and the H960 cabinets, perhaps because they fit with most of the other DEC gear I've collected, I think that the commercial blue tones and Vax style cabinets are sexy as hell too. If I had loads of space, money and time, I would love to have all of the variet

Re: advice / suggestion wanted PDP 11/40 only boots XXDP, not RT11

2019-01-31 Thread Fritz Mueller via cctalk
> On Jan 31, 2019, at 12:26 PM, Bill Degnan via cctech > wrote: > > My PDP 11/40 suddenly lost it's ability to boot RL02 disks except the XXDP > disk. I have two drives, both boot up an XXDP (I have more than one) just > fine, but any formerly-working RT-11 (v 5, 5.1, 5.3) no longer boots, it

Re: 11/70 - original or 570 model more desirable?

2019-01-31 Thread Bill Degnan via cctalk
> > > > > > > Random question: > > Would you have bought this one if it were maroon instead of blue? > > > > > https://www.ebay.com/itm/DEC-PDP-11-70-Datasystem-570-/113553953503?nordt=true&orig_cvip=true > > > As-is for $10K seems a little bit steep for a starting bid. But I haven't > tried to bu

advice / suggestion wanted PDP 11/40 only boots XXDP, not RT11

2019-01-31 Thread Bill Degnan via cctalk
My PDP 11/40 suddenly lost it's ability to boot RL02 disks except the XXDP disk. I have two drives, both boot up an XXDP (I have more than one) just fine, but any formerly-working RT-11 (v 5, 5.1, 5.3) no longer boots, it just hangs. I have been troubleshooting, running the 11/40 XXDP tests, but

Re: advice / suggestion wanted PDP 11/40 only boots XXDP, not RT11

2019-01-31 Thread Jerry Weiss via cctalk
My recollection is that XXDP tries not to use Interrupts or DMA, unless it has to. I would check out those areas first for problems if it hangs in RT-11. Jerry On 1/31/19 2:26 PM, Bill Degnan via cctech wrote: My PDP 11/40 suddenly lost it's ability to boot RL02 disks except the XXDP disk.

Re: advice / suggestion wanted PDP 11/40 only boots XXDP, not RT11

2019-01-31 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
RT11-SJ is less dependent on interrupts, I think, so that might be another thing to try. paul > On Jan 31, 2019, at 3:55 PM, Jerry Weiss via cctech > wrote: > > My recollection is that XXDP tries not to use Interrupts or DMA, unless it > has to. > > I would check out those areas fir