I've sold the last of my P112 boards. Is there still any interest in P112
kits or boards?
--
David Griffith
d...@661.org
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A: Top-posting.
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On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 7:26 AM, Benjamin Huntsman via cctalk
wrote:
>>That one's been around for several years. Nobody here on the east coast
>
>>wants it. A few of us checked it out in person. Pile of junk.
>
> At some point, doesn't the rarity of it outweigh the rough condition? Or are
> 34's
I want one... Full kit preferred.
--frax
On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 10:35 AM, David Griffith via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
> I've sold the last of my P112 boards. Is there still any interest in P112
> kits or boards?
>
> --
> David Griffith
> d...@661.org
>
> A: Because it fouls the
> -Original Message-
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> Huntsman via cctalk
> Sent: 26 July 2017 06:27
> To: Evan Koblentz ; General Discussion: On-Topic and
Off-
> Topic Posts
> Subject: Re: Whole IBM System/34 available in unknown condition
>
>
On 07/17/2017 14:36, John Greve via cctalk wrote:
>
> Did you ever find a usable source?
I never did find an ISO image of DDJ DVD 6.
I had found numerous torrent links too, but none that I checked were
still retrievable. Haven't checked the link(s) Graham Toal offered.
--S.
So, I've been collecting images of 'Multics' 'front' panels from around the
Internet, intending to do a gallery.
(I should explain that, in common with mainframes of that era, a Multics
system had a variety of different kinds of boxes - CPUs, memories, etc - but
also others, intended to support th
All
I decided to try this with a MicroVax 4000/400 and my Windows 7 desktop
PC. (Rather than fix things around the house)
Much to my surprise the CPU load was 85%, with just a single DECTERM
window up. Is this usual or normal? Typing in commands via the DECTERM
window was tediously slow.
> -Original Message-
> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Noel
> Chiappa via cctalk
> Sent: 26 July 2017 15:38
> To: cctalk@classiccmp.org
> Cc: j...@mercury.lcs.mit.edu
> Subject: Honeywall mainframe CPU front panel ID?
>
> So, I've been collecting images o
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> From: Dave Wade [mailto:dave.g4...@gmail.com]
> Sent: 26 July 2017 16:34
> To: 'Noel Chiappa' ; 'General Discussion:
On-Topic
> and Off-Topic Posts'
> Subject: RE: Honeywall mainframe CPU front panel ID?
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>
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> > -Original Message-
> > From: cctalk [mai
On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 7:37 AM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> So, I've been collecting images of 'Multics' 'front' panels from around the
> Internet, intending to do a gallery.
>
> (I should explain that, in common with mainframes of that era, a Multics
> system had a
On Wed, 26 Jul 2017, Douglas Taylor via cctalk wrote:
I decided to try this with a MicroVax 4000/400 and my Windows 7 desktop PC.
(Rather than fix things around the house)
Much to my surprise the CPU load was 85%, with just a single DECTERM window
up. Is this usual or normal? Typing in comm
from what I was told, many versions of machines by Big H were used
to run multics over the span of time. Ed#
In a message dated 7/26/2017 9:59:19 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
cctalk@classiccmp.org writes:
On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 7:37 AM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk <
cctalk@classi
On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 11:01 AM, wrote:
> from what I was told, many versions of machines by Big H were used
> to run multics over the span of time. Ed#
>
>From the Multics timeline at multicians.org; "GE-645: January, 1967" to
last install: "1987: TTGL and TTGP sites installed"
20 year
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/292195584646
On 7/26/2017 11:13 AM, Charles Anthony via cctalk wrote:
On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 11:01 AM, wrote:
from what I was told, many versions of machines by Big H were used
to run multics over the span of time. Ed#
>From the Multics timeline at multicians.org; "GE-645: January, 1967" to
las
yes, I imagine someone could attempt to collet all possible front panels from
all permutations and still miss one of the bizarre lashups...
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On Wednesday, July 26, 2017 Charles Anthony wrote:
On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 11:01 AM, wrote:
from what I was told, many
On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 10:53 AM, Charles Anthony <
charles.unix@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> The 6180 is documented has having 8 ports, the DPS8/M as having 4 ports..
> (The DPS8/M is the next hardware generation of the 6180. The SCUs were
> upgraded to hold more memory and is was possible to ma
On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 02:50:08PM -0500, Graham Toal via cctech wrote:
> http://www.indytorrents.org/torrent/10372448/DDJ_DVD6.iso.xz
>
> which leads to:
>
> magnet:[...]
[...]
> I use a program called 'deluge' on Windows to download torrents the few
> times I use them (usually for the Internet
and the transistor 600 machines had a wildly diff. front panel!
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On Wednesday, July 26, 2017 Charles Anthony via cctalk
wrote:
On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 10:53 AM, Charles Anthony <
charles.unix@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> The 6180 is documented has having 8 ports, the
I'd prefer a full kit as well, but if you'd rather produce just the boards
with the SMD stuff already in place, that's OK with me, too.
I'm new to the list; how much would the full kit or board cost?
On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 5:02 AM, Fredrik Axtelius via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> I
>
> A further refinement on numbering.
>
> GE added Multics support to the 635 to make the 645. The 645 was a
> transistor machine and was reworked as an integrated circuit machine, the
> GE-655.
>
> The 655 was rebranded as the Honeywell 6000 series.
>
> I am not sure of the evolution path of the
define hardware diff. 635 and 645..ed#
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On Wednesday, July 26, 2017 william degnan wrote:
A further refinement on numbering.
GE added Multics support to the 635 to make the 645. The 645 was a
transistor machine and was reworked as an integrated circuit machine, the
On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 1:50 PM, Ed Sharpe via cctalk wrote:
> define hardware diff. 635 and 645..ed#
>
>
Disclaimer: I wasn't there; this is my understanding from my work on the
emulator.
The 635 was GE's flagship mainframe. 36 bit word, 256K word limit on
memory. No virtual addressing, bu
>
>> I am not sure of the evolution path of the 635 to the 60xx; ie. if GE had
>> an IC version of the 635 and what it was called, or it the 655 came with a
>> non-Multics support version.
>>
>> -- Charles
>>
>
> I can confirm this, GE's original Multics intro document, they refer to
> the GE 645.
On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 2:17 PM, william degnan via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> >
> >> I am not sure of the evolution path of the 635 to the 60xx; ie. if GE
> had
> >> an IC version of the 635 and what it was called, or it the 655 came
> with a
> >> non-Multics support version.
> >>
>
> From: Ed Sharpe
> from what I was told, many versions of machines by Big H were used to
> run multics over the span of time.
Yes, it appears from what I can find that there were basically three
different Honeywell machines that ran Multics:
- the 6180 - the one the LCM has the pan
yes operators panels not the really good main panels!!. cool stuff hiding
behind doors and under skins
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On Wednesday, July 26, 2017 Noel Chiappa via cctalk
wrote:
> From: Ed Sharpe
> from what I was told, many versions of machines by Big H were used to
> run mult
On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 2:48 PM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
> There's a picture of an artist's impression of the 645 here:
>
> http://www.multicians.org/645artist.html
>
> Oddly enough, that painting was on the wall right outside my office in Tech
> Sq!
>
> Now _th
thanks that gives me a better understanding Charles in one chunk of my
knowledge that had a hole in it!
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On Wednesday, July 26, 2017 Charles Anthony wrote:
On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 1:50 PM, Ed Sharpe via cctalk
wrote:
define hardware diff. 635 and 645..ed#
Di
On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 3:09 PM, Ed Sharpe wrote:
> thanks that gives me a better understanding Charles in one chunk of my
> knowledge that had a hole in it!
>
You're welcome.
Tying all of this back to the dps8m emulator the emulator originally
emulated the DPS8/M. As part of the LCM panel
the Dartmouth orig. ran on GE 200 series machines.. we have a core plane, a
driver card and a reel of tape from the old babe back there! What a great gee
whiz time sharing was back then..
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On Wednesday, July 26, 2017 Charles Anthony wrote:
On Wed, Jul 26, 2017
On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 4:58 PM, Ed Sharpe wrote:
> the Dartmouth orig. ran on GE 200 series machines.. we have a core plane,
> a driver card and a reel of tape from the old babe back there! What a
> great gee whiz time sharing was back then..
>
The GE 235 version of DTSS is up and running
On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 7:53 PM, Ian S. King via cctalk
wrote:
> "The scrapper wants $800"? I thought the point of going to scrap was that
> the scrapper makes money on the metals, and pays you for that privilege.
> Have the tables really turned so dramatically?-- Ian
I got $186 a couple of
> I have run DECwindows on a VAX 3100 model 300 under VAX/VMS 5.5-1 using the
> Motif window manager with a dozen remote DECterms open plus Emacs, a clock,
> a calendar, etc. and it gave reasonable performance. The VAX was both the
[...]
> I was able to run Mozilla on it but performance was horr
Probably Mozilla 1 or there about. I think that was about the time I stopped
trying to run any browser other than Lynx on my DEC Alpha.
Zane
> On Jul 26, 2017, at 5:40 PM, Cameron Kaiser via cctalk
> wrote:
>
>> I have run DECwindows on a VAX 3100 model 300 under VAX/VMS 5.5-1 using the
>
On Wed, 26 Jul 2017, Cameron Kaiser wrote:
Wit. There was a Mozilla build for VAX???
I have Netscape Navigator 3, but I thought that was the last VAX build. It
runs ... acceptably on my M76, though I wouldn't call it sprightly.
No, I remembered after I sent it. It would be Netscape
I have just got a couple of these out of the dumpster, I had to arrange
palletised shipping for these monoliths. I was warned they were heavy but I
wasn't expecting well, rs6000 heavy.
The boot menus are far from intuitive, I have actually had to rtfm.
I am yet to get an OS to boot on these m
> > Wit. There was a Mozilla build for VAX???
> > I have Netscape Navigator 3, but I thought that was the last VAX build. It
> > runs ... acceptably on my M76, though I wouldn't call it sprightly.
>
> No, I remembered after I sent it. It would be Netscape 3?. But remember!!
> It is spell
> Probably Mozilla 1 or there about. I think that was about the time I
> stopped trying to run any browser other than Lynx on my DEC Alpha.
I'm pretty sure that was for AXP VMS. There wasn't even a Navigator 4 for
VAX VMS that I can recall, though I'd love to be wrong.
Mozilla got all the way to
On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 02:20:49AM +0100, Henry Bond via cctalk wrote:
> I have just got a couple of these out of the dumpster
Welp ... checking the following:
https://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/cgi-bin/ssialias?infotype=dd&subtype=sm&appname=pseries&htmlfid=897/ENUS7025-F50
I can kinda see wh
On 2017-07-26 10:20 PM, Henry Bond via cctalk wrote:
I have just got a couple of these out of the dumpster, I had to arrange
palletised shipping for these monoliths. I was warned they were heavy but I
wasn't expecting well, rs6000 heavy.
The boot menus are far from intuitive, I have actually
> > I emailed IBM regarding a license to do research with
For the OP, having the hardware still (last I checked) entitles you
to run AIX on it. You just have to find the media, which for a system that
old is not easy. I've never been able to find 4.1.5 on CD, for example,
even though I know it exi
I suspect that this machine was moved on because the service contract expired
and a shiny new server with a service contract.
Interesting method of doing business, although I did play heavy on the student.
Maybe I will find a download from a less reputable source, if having the
hardware entit
On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 6:22 PM, Cameron Kaiser via cctalk
wrote:
>> Probably Mozilla 1 or there about. I think that was about the time I
>> stopped trying to run any browser other than Lynx on my DEC Alpha.
>
> I'm pretty sure that was for AXP VMS. There wasn't even a Navigator 4 for
> VAX VMS t
> > > Probably Mozilla 1 or there about. I think that was about the time I
> > > stopped trying to run any browser other than Lynx on my DEC Alpha.
> >
> > I'm pretty sure that was for AXP VMS. There wasn't even a Navigator 4 for
> > VAX VMS that I can recall, though I'd love to be wrong.
> >
> >
On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 7:15 PM, Cameron Kaiser via cctalk
wrote:
>> > I emailed IBM regarding a license to do research with
>
> For the OP, having the hardware still (last I checked) entitles you
> to run AIX on it. You just have to find the media, which for a system that
> old is not easy. I've
I'd be more than happy to buy it, do you think settling for 4.1.4 when it can
run 4.1.5?
Probably a patience moment!
-H
On 27 July 2017 04:00:15 BST, Glen Slick via cctalk
wrote:
>On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 7:15 PM, Cameron Kaiser via cctalk
> wrote:
>>> > I emailed IBM regarding a license to do
On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 8:05 PM, Henry Bond wrote:
> I'd be more than happy to buy it, do you think settling for 4.1.4 when it can
> run 4.1.5?
> Probably a patience moment!
>
> -H
I also have a 5 CD set of AIX 5L for POWER V5.1 5765-E61, LCD4-1061-04
No idea what range of systems are compatibl
> I'd be more than happy to buy it, do you think settling for 4.1.4 when it
> can run 4.1.5?
The main difference (having run both) is that 4.1.4 has a very nasty leak
in the sockets code. My production ANS 500 would run out of memory after
awhile because of all the sockets it opened and closed. 4.
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