Re: Straight 8 up on Ebay just now

2016-07-19 Thread jim stephens
On 7/18/2016 10:23 PM, Sam O'nella wrote: There may be some archives here or vcf with enough prices. Iirc i thought i remember one selling for something pretty high (8000/12000?) X years ago although i think like this it's a calculated price of doubling the last sale they saw. Although apple

Re: Straight 8 up on Ebay just now

2016-07-19 Thread COURYHOUSE
EEEKK!!! and it is not the one with the Plexiglas surrounds... kaaa ching..$$$ It does have a nice a/d unit Ed# In a message dated 7/19/2016 12:07:02 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, jwsm...@jwsss.com writes: On 7/18/2016 10:23 PM, Sam O'nella wrote: > There may be some archives he

Re: Straight 8 up on Ebay just now

2016-07-19 Thread COURYHOUSE
there is an 8i with similar crazy price but different user id hmmm beware? also a Rare Digital DEC H-500 Computer Lab, 1960s, Same Switches as PDP-8/I, Vintage for 700+ ( we have an extra one of these Computer Lab, if anyone here is interested) Ed# _www.smecc.org_ (http

Re: Flex Disc options for the HP 9825

2016-07-19 Thread Paul Berger
On 2016-07-19 2:06 AM, tony duell wrote: Probably a question for Tony's encyclopedic knowledge. I just scored two HP 9825, one a later "T" option and one "B" version with all the fixings (i.e ROM packs). They both seem to work save the usual tape drive which I have not gotten to yet. Both have

Re: Flex Disc options for the HP 9825

2016-07-19 Thread Paul Berger
On 2016-07-19 1:25 AM, Curious Marc wrote: Probably a question for Tony's encyclopedic knowledge. I just scored two HP 9825, one a later "T" option and one "B" version with all the fixings (i.e ROM packs). They both seem to work save the usual tape drive which I have not gotten to yet. Both hav

Re: Reproduction micros

2016-07-19 Thread Liam Proven
On 19 July 2016 at 06:30, Eric Smith wrote: > > I've seen this claim in the past. I've looked over the chipset design, > and I don't think it did any more wonderful a job of supporting cheap > commodity DRAM than the other common chipsets of the era. Perhaps > someone with greater familiarity with

Re: Building the Ultimate Classic Mac.

2016-07-19 Thread Liam Proven
On 18 July 2016 at 22:50, geneb wrote: > On Mon, 18 Jul 2016, couryho...@aol.com wrote: > >> Liam, thank you so much for this information! >> I did not know about all the HACKINTOSH action out there! >> > If you've got an Intel cpu, you can run it with VMWare too. :) I've heard that but I hav

Re: Building the Ultimate Classic Mac.

2016-07-19 Thread geneb
On Tue, 19 Jul 2016, Liam Proven wrote: On 18 July 2016 at 22:50, geneb wrote: On Mon, 18 Jul 2016, couryho...@aol.com wrote: Liam, thank you so much for this information! I did not know about all the HACKINTOSH action out there! If you've got an Intel cpu, you can run it with VMWare to

Re: Building the Ultimate Classic Mac.

2016-07-19 Thread Liam Proven
On 19 July 2016 at 15:44, geneb wrote: > You have to patch VMWare to turn on the MacOS support - it's not available > by default. Ah. Well, since I don't own it and prefer FOSS, I'll stick to VirtualBox and try to uncover the secret. I know people manage to do it. -- Liam Proven • Profile: ht

Re: Building the Ultimate Classic Mac.

2016-07-19 Thread Swift Griggs
On Tue, 19 Jul 2016, Liam Proven wrote: > I've heard that but I have never once got it to work, either in VMware > or VirtualBox. :-( IMHO, it's a PITA and not really worth it. Hardware-based Hackintoshes can be fast and somewhat well supported. You just have to be very careful about what hardw

Re: Building the Ultimate Classic Mac.

2016-07-19 Thread geneb
On Tue, 19 Jul 2016, Liam Proven wrote: On 19 July 2016 at 15:44, geneb wrote: You have to patch VMWare to turn on the MacOS support - it's not available by default. Ah. Well, since I don't own it and prefer FOSS, I'll stick to VirtualBox and try to uncover the secret. I know people manage

Re: Building the Ultimate Classic Mac.

2016-07-19 Thread Liam Proven
On 19 July 2016 at 16:08, Swift Griggs wrote: > > IMHO, it's a PITA and not really worth it. That's my impression, yes. > Hardware-based Hackintoshes can > be fast and somewhat well supported. I know, because I hackintoshed my PC in London before I left. It was a decent machine off the local

Re: Straight 8 up on Ebay just now

2016-07-19 Thread ethan
That said I'd figure though some of the higher prices such as the current PDP8/I and GT40 are setting for want of bids, they aren't that far from what you have to pay to get said systems on demand. This one may go for around the opportunistic price, and be lower, but $10 to $12k isn't going to be

Cray J932SE (was Re: Straight 8 up on Ebay just now)

2016-07-19 Thread Swift Griggs
On Tue, 19 Jul 2016, et...@757.org wrote: > Hmp. Well the Cray J932SE on there is legit :-) The photo of that unit is entertaining. Whoever buys it will need to setup 3x 30A 220v outlets. That's going to make some licensed electrician very happy. I worked with a Cray for a while of about the s

Re: Cray J932SE (was Re: Straight 8 up on Ebay just now)

2016-07-19 Thread ethan
The photo of that unit is entertaining. Whoever buys it will need to setup 3x 30A 220v outlets. That's going to make some licensed electrician very happy. At the old small office I would just pop some breakers out and replace them with 2 pole 30 amp ones. When it was at the hackerspace there wa

Re: Reproduction micros

2016-07-19 Thread Peter Corlett
On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 03:30:19PM +0200, Liam Proven wrote: [...] > There's a hint here, though: > https://www.epo.org/learning-events/european-inventor/finalists/2013/wilson/feature.html >From there, it seems to be saying that the essence of the invention is that the ARM ISA is RISC, it is a loa

DEC H-500 Computer Lab pins and docs (was Re: Straight 8 up on Ebay just now)

2016-07-19 Thread Ethan Dicks
On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 5:01 AM, wrote: > also a Rare Digital DEC H-500 Computer Lab, 1960s, Same Switches as > PDP-8/I, Vintage for 700+ > > ( we have an extra one of these Computer Lab, if anyone here is > interested) Does anyone have a modern source of pins that fit the socket holes in

Re: Cray J932SE (was Re: Straight 8 up on Ebay just now)

2016-07-19 Thread Paul Koning
> On Jul 19, 2016, at 10:54 AM, Swift Griggs wrote: > > On Tue, 19 Jul 2016, et...@757.org wrote: >> Hmp. Well the Cray J932SE on there is legit :-) > > The photo of that unit is entertaining. Whoever buys it will need to setup > 3x 30A 220v outlets. That's going to make some licensed electric

Re: DEC H-500 Computer Lab pins and docs (was Re: Straight 8 up on Ebay just now)

2016-07-19 Thread william degnan
On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 11:29 AM, Ethan Dicks wrote: > On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 5:01 AM, wrote: > > also a Rare Digital DEC H-500 Computer Lab, 1960s, Same Switches as > > PDP-8/I, Vintage for 700+ > > > > ( we have an extra one of these Computer Lab, if anyone here is > > interested) > >

Re: Reproduction micros

2016-07-19 Thread Paul Koning
> On Jul 19, 2016, at 11:04 AM, Peter Corlett wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 03:30:19PM +0200, Liam Proven wrote: > [...] >> There's a hint here, though: >> https://www.epo.org/learning-events/european-inventor/finalists/2013/wilson/feature.html > > From there, it seems to be saying that th

Re: Building the Ultimate Classic Mac.

2016-07-19 Thread Al Kossow
On 7/18/16 8:36 PM, N0body H0me wrote: >> Which bare board did you see? > > Long ago, on "The auction site that must not be named", some guy > was selling an apple-branded case, with a bare motherboard inside > (or, perhaps only sparsely populated). The seller stated it was > the prototype mo

Re: DEC H-500 Computer Lab pins and docs (was Re: Straight 8 up on Ebay just now)

2016-07-19 Thread Ethan Dicks
On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 11:32 AM, william degnan wrote: >> Also, the 1969 Computer Lab Handbook is on bitsavers (in >> 'dec/handbooks'). I recall a 8.5"x11" book on the Computer Lab, newer >> layout, probably a 1970s publication date, possibly a teacher's guide. >> I was given one as a kid, but i

Re: Cray J932SE (was Re: Straight 8 up on Ebay just now)

2016-07-19 Thread Swift Griggs
On Tue, 19 Jul 2016, Paul Koning wrote: > > On Jul 19, 2016, at 10:54 AM, Swift Griggs wrote: > > On Tue, 19 Jul 2016, et...@757.org wrote: > >> Hmp. Well the Cray J932SE on there is legit :-) > > The photo of that unit is entertaining. Whoever buys it will need to setup > > 3x 30A 220v outlets.

Re: Cray J932SE (was Re: Straight 8 up on Ebay just now)

2016-07-19 Thread Paul Koning
> On Jul 19, 2016, at 11:58 AM, Swift Griggs wrote: > > On Tue, 19 Jul 2016, Paul Koning wrote: >>> On Jul 19, 2016, at 10:54 AM, Swift Griggs wrote: >>> On Tue, 19 Jul 2016, et...@757.org wrote: Hmp. Well the Cray J932SE on there is legit :-) >>> The photo of that unit is entertaining. Wh

Re: Reproduction micros

2016-07-19 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Paul Koning > The article, as usual, talks about a whole bunch of things that are > much older than the author seems to know. "The two most common things in the universe are hydrogen and stupidity." OK, so technically it's ignorance, not stupidity, but in my book it's stupid t

Re: Cray J932SE (was Re: Straight 8 up on Ebay just now)

2016-07-19 Thread ethan
The other thing that's not trivial is that if you make a mistake, you will likely either: 1. Die. 2. Burn down your house. 3. Ruin some expensive and rare gear. To me, that all sounds like a helluva pain and != trivial. Then again, I'm a software guy. What do I know? :-P Some fun pics: https://

Re: Reproduction micros

2016-07-19 Thread Paul Koning
> On Jul 19, 2016, at 12:10 PM, Noel Chiappa wrote: > >> From: Paul Koning > >> The article, as usual, talks about a whole bunch of things that are >> much older than the author seems to know. > > "The two most common things in the universe are hydrogen and stupidity." OK, > so technically it'

Re: DEC H-500 Computer Lab pins and docs (was Re: Straight 8 up on Ebay just now)

2016-07-19 Thread Karl-Wilhelm Wacker
Does anyone have one of the patch cables, and can they measure the diameter of the pin and it's length? Also, is it a straight pin or like a bannana jack with springy sides? There is a company www.mill-max.com that makes almost any type of pin/socket that you can think of - take a look thru

Re: DEC H-500 Computer Lab pins and docs (was Re: Straight 8 up on Ebay just now)

2016-07-19 Thread Vincent Slyngstad
From: Ethan Dicks: Tuesday, July 19, 2016 8:29 AM Does anyone have a modern source of pins that fit the socket holes in the Computer Lab? ISTR there are a few of us here who have an H-500, but very few, or no, patch cables. I think Molex pins have been tried and rejected. Nope. I've been loo

Re: Cray J932SE (was Re: Straight 8 up on Ebay just now)

2016-07-19 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 07/19/2016 08:29 AM, Paul Koning wrote: > Or hobbyist. It's pretty trivial, after all. If you live in a state > where that's not allowed, that would be an issue. But in NH, for > example, homeowners can do their own electrical work. I wouldn't do > work on the meter box or other always-live

Re: DEC H-500 Computer Lab pins and docs (was Re: Straight 8 up on Ebay just now)

2016-07-19 Thread Vincent Slyngstad
From: Karl-Wilhelm Wacker: Tuesday, July 19, 2016 9:25 AM Does anyone have one of the patch cables, and can they measure the diameter of the pin and it's length? Also, is it a straight pin or like a bannana jack with springy sides? It is a smooth-walled brass taper pin with a crimp connector

Re: Cray J932SE (was Re: Straight 8 up on Ebay just now)

2016-07-19 Thread Mouse
>> [...electrical wiring...] > This very definitely is an area where, if you're not 100% comfortable with t$ Also, know your own limits. A depressing number of people think they're more competent than they are. For example, I once had a neighbour who replaced an outlet in his kitchen. Turned of

Re: Cray J932SE (was Re: Straight 8 up on Ebay just now)

2016-07-19 Thread Christian Corti
On Tue, 19 Jul 2016, Swift Griggs wrote: The photo of that unit is entertaining. Whoever buys it will need to setup 3x 30A 220v outlets. That's going to make some licensed electrician very happy. Why? 32A 3-phase CEE connectors (the red ones) are very common, especially since most electrical i

Re: Cray J932SE (was Re: Straight 8 up on Ebay just now)

2016-07-19 Thread Mouse
> [...], especially since most electrical installations (even domestic) > are 3-phase. This, I believe, must be location-specific. In North America, it is usual for domestic electrical feeds to be only two-phase (that is, they are the two sides of a centre-tapped secondary - the two hot wires are

Re: DEC H-500 Computer Lab pins and docs (was Re: Straight 8 up on Ebay just now)

2016-07-19 Thread Ethan Dicks
On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 12:26 PM, Vincent Slyngstad wrote: > From: Ethan Dicks: Tuesday, July 19, 2016 8:29 AM >> >> Does anyone have a modern source of pins that fit the socket holes in >> the Computer Lab? ISTR there are a few of us here who have an H-500, >> but very few, or no, patch cables.

Re: Cray J932SE (was Re: Straight 8 up on Ebay just now)

2016-07-19 Thread Ethan Dicks
On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 12:53 PM, Mouse wrote: >> [...], especially since most electrical installations (even domestic) >> are 3-phase. > > This, I believe, must be location-specific. In North America, it is > usual for domestic electrical feeds to be only two-phase (that is, they > are the two s

RE: Flex Disc options for the HP 9825

2016-07-19 Thread tony duell
> There was only ever support for 8" diskette drives, and to support 9895 > you need the second version of the Diskette ROM which appears to be very > rare. I t sure would be nice if someone who has one of these ROMs would > dump the contents or loan it to someone who could dump it, so that we >

Re: Cray J932SE (was Re: Straight 8 up on Ebay just now)

2016-07-19 Thread Paul Koning
> On Jul 19, 2016, at 12:53 PM, Mouse wrote: > >> [...], especially since most electrical installations (even domestic) >> are 3-phase. > > This, I believe, must be location-specific. In North America, it is > usual for domestic electrical feeds to be only two-phase (that is, they > are the tw

Re: Cray J932SE (was Re: Straight 8 up on Ebay just now)

2016-07-19 Thread Swift Griggs
On Tue, 19 Jul 2016, Paul Koning wrote: > It all depends on what you're comfortable with. My original point was that it's not trivial. I'd stand by that point no matter how comfortable someone is with the install. Of course, even that is subjective, I suppose. If you have tons of time, money, an

Re: Cray J932SE (was Re: Straight 8 up on Ebay just now)

2016-07-19 Thread Swift Griggs
On Tue, 19 Jul 2016, Paul Koning wrote: > Yes, and time dependent as well. I grew up in Holland; in the 1970s, we > had 3 phase in our house because we had an electric cooking range. As you probably know, that's not usual the setup in North America, even for folks with electric ranges. > In th

Re: Cray J932SE (was Re: Straight 8 up on Ebay just now)

2016-07-19 Thread ethan
Right... and in my area (hardly unique, I'd wager), you cannot get 3-phase in residential areas. The shared transformers on the poles don't provide it and you can't pay them to add/change a transformer. You have to be in a commercial area to get that. Fortunately for me, my tastes in minicompute

Re: Cray J932SE (was Re: Straight 8 up on Ebay just now)

2016-07-19 Thread JP Hindin
On Tue, 19 Jul 2016, et...@757.org wrote: The Cray uses 5 x Pioneer magnetics power supplies that I believe are identical to those in the Sun E1. The smaller rack with the VME chassis and hard drives -- good chance the power supplies are okay with 110/120v. The disk trays at least are jus

Re: Cray J932SE (was Re: Straight 8 up on Ebay just now)

2016-07-19 Thread Swift Griggs
On Tue, 19 Jul 2016, et...@757.org wrote: > The Cray is single phase, the only thing I've ever owned that was 3 > phase was the laser stuff. Now my solid state laser projector uses 100 > watts and producsed half the power of the argon that used to take 3ph @ > 30A (and still tripped the breaker

Re: Cray J932SE (was Re: Straight 8 up on Ebay just now)

2016-07-19 Thread Paul Koning
> On Jul 19, 2016, at 1:51 PM, et...@757.org wrote: > > ... > I've heard sometimes the utility will indeed give you 3phase but you have to > pay them to replace the transformer and it's very very expensive. Normally > it's people buying used milling equipment that are after it from my > experi

Re: Cray J932SE (was Re: Straight 8 up on Ebay just now)

2016-07-19 Thread Paul Koning
> On Jul 19, 2016, at 2:04 PM, Swift Griggs wrote: > > ... and as I mentioned before, they can break. So, even if your VCF will > handle the load, your uptime requirement might be a dealbreaker if you > have commercial intentions. I wonder, though. In modern machinery, a whole lot of them ar

Re: Flex Disc options for the HP 9825

2016-07-19 Thread Paul Berger
On 2016-07-19 2:25 PM, tony duell wrote: There was only ever support for 8" diskette drives, and to support 9895 you need the second version of the Diskette ROM which appears to be very rare. I t sure would be nice if someone who has one of these ROMs would dump the contents or loan it to someon

Wiring Regulations. RE: Cray J932SE (was Re: Straight 8 up on Ebay just now)

2016-07-19 Thread Dave G4UGM
In the UK we have, for DOMESTIC premises something call "Part P" > -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Mouse > Sent: 19 July 2016 17:47 > To: cctalk@classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: Cray J932SE (was Re: Straight 8 up on Ebay just now) > > >>

Re: Cray J932SE (was Re: Straight 8 up on Ebay just now)

2016-07-19 Thread Fred Cisin
On Tue, 19 Jul 2016, Paul Koning wrote: Anything powered by electric motor above 2 hp or so often comes in 3 phase, and when you get to somewhat higher power (5 hp or so) it seems to be about the only option. Lathes and milling machines are good examples. and air compressors in automotive sh

Rescue Fwd: Atari 1040ST (w/Hybrid Arts, Apple 7100AV (w/Digidesign) Utah

2016-07-19 Thread John Foust
A rescue available... contact Ric directly below. - John >From: Ric Chitwood >Subject: Atari 1040ST >Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2016 10:56:05 -0600 > >I have a fully functioning Atari 1040ST with monitor in the original boxes >that I would like to donate. >It also has the Hybrid Arts Smpte Track hardw

Re: Cray J932SE (was Re: Straight 8 up on Ebay just now)

2016-07-19 Thread Dale H. Cook
At 02:41 PM 7/19/2016, Fred Cisin wrote: > and resulted in high voltage to the 110 outlets, damaging a bunch of minor > stuff, such as grinder, space heater, clock, etc. Obviously a delta with a high (aka "wild") leg. Dale H. Cook, Roanoke/Lynchburg, VA Osborne 1 / Kaypro 4-84 / Kaypro 1 / Amst

Re: Cray J932SE (was Re: Straight 8 up on Ebay just now)

2016-07-19 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 07/19/2016 11:08 AM, Paul Koning wrote: > The expense of a new service for 3 phase is one issue; it may not be > available at all. A lot of US rural areas have a single wire > running along the street. The only way you could get 3 phase service > is for the utility to replace that by 3 wires

Re: Cray J932SE (was Re: Straight 8 up on Ebay just now)

2016-07-19 Thread Jon Elson
On 07/19/2016 01:41 PM, Fred Cisin wrote: 3-phase comes in "delta" or "Wye"("Y") some installers don't know the difference! I experienced TWO misdone installations. One was an auto garage, and resulted in high voltage to the 110 outlets, damaging a bunch of minor stuff, such as grinder, spa

Re: Cray J932SE (was Re: Straight 8 up on Ebay just now)

2016-07-19 Thread ethan
I haven't been able to articulate anything witty, but I'll go ahead and just say: Ethan I don't know what you do with those BF-lasers, but it sounds damn awesome, anyway. Your stock just went up. It's hard to make lasers anything but sci-fi radical coolness. Light show hobby. Inspired by the Def

Re: Straight 8 up on Ebay just now

2016-07-19 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
I can't find it, does anyone have a URL? /P On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 01:58:12PM -0700, jim stephens wrote: > 25,000, Alexandria, Va. > > Josh Dersch can have one for his home and for work. > > BTW, about the other nice system noted here, I was hoping the 11/20 would > stay off the radar and not

Re: Straight 8 up on Ebay just now

2016-07-19 Thread COURYHOUSE
I just put in pdp-8 in ebay search and saw it last nite -Ed# In a message dated 7/19/2016 12:24:15 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, pon...@update.uu.se writes: I can't find it, does anyone have a URL? /P On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 01:58:12PM -0700, jim stephens wrote: > 25,000, Alexandria, V

Re: Straight 8 up on Ebay just now

2016-07-19 Thread Glen Slick
On Jul 19, 2016 12:24 PM, "Pontus Pihlgren" wrote: > > I can't find it, does anyone have a URL? > Straight PDP-8 http://www.ebay.com/itm/152171436497 PDP-11/20 http://www.ebay.com/itm/201624309371

Re: Cray J932SE (was Re: Straight 8 up on Ebay just now)

2016-07-19 Thread Swift Griggs
On Tue, 19 Jul 2016, Paul Koning wrote: > I wouldn't run my $100 little VFC in production, but I expect that the > more expensive ones from serious companies like Yaskawa or Allen-Bradley > will do just fine. I forgot about those. I think you are right. I've seen what I believe to be massive VC

Seagate 50-pin SCSI drives

2016-07-19 Thread Electronics Plus
A reseller in GA is dumping some online inventory that they used to sell on ebay. Included are 23 SEAGATE ST32500N HARD DRIVE If interested, email to Mike Roetzer [m...@tbfcomputing.com] Not affiliated with the seller at all. Cindy Croxton

LASERS! && Freemont Street LED array (was Re: Cray J932SE (was Re: Straight 8 up on Ebay just now))

2016-07-19 Thread Swift Griggs
On Tue, 19 Jul 2016, et...@757.org wrote: > Light show hobby. Inspired by the Def Leppard music video "Pour some > sugar on me." Killer. I wish we were neighbors, Ethan. We'd be able to throw the most awesome block parties, I swear. I bet you are a musician, too. > Everything is from China and

Re: LASERS! && Freemont Street LED array (was Re: Cray J932SE (was Re: Straight 8 up on Ebay just now))

2016-07-19 Thread Mouse
>> Light show hobby. You'd probably know, then - what's the fastest way to deflect a laser beam? In particular, I'm wondering how practical it might be to take a laser and turn it into a vector display on a handy blank wall - but that requires some very fast acceleration of the spot, probably fas

Re: LASERS! && Freemont Street LED array (was Re: Cray J932SE (was Re: Straight 8 up on Ebay just now))

2016-07-19 Thread Karl-Wilhelm Wacker
They generaly use mirrors - I would cobble something together by taking the laser diode read head from a CD rom, and removing the diode assembly, and glue a small, thin, front surface mirror in its place, and drive the coil from the output of an audio amp, just to try it out. A pair of these,

Re: LASERS! && Freemont Street LED array (was Re: Cray J932SE (was Re: Straight 8 up on Ebay just now))

2016-07-19 Thread Swift Griggs
On Tue, 19 Jul 2016, Mouse wrote: > You'd probably know, then - what's the fastest way to deflect a laser > beam? Whoa. Interesting problem since a photon carries no charge and thus you can't horizontally or vertically deflect it with a magnetic field. I guess that's why folks make things like

Re: Seagate 50-pin SCSI drives

2016-07-19 Thread Chris Hanson
Are they dumping it on eBay, or did they used to sell it on eBay? If the former, do you know their eBay ID? -- Chris Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 19, 2016, at 12:40 PM, Electronics Plus wrote: > > A reseller in GA is dumping some online inventory that they used to sell on > ebay. Included a

Re: LASERS! && Freemont Street LED array (was Re: Cray J932SE (was Re: Straight 8 up on Ebay just now))

2016-07-19 Thread Paul Koning
> On Jul 19, 2016, at 4:02 PM, Mouse wrote: > >>> Light show hobby. > > You'd probably know, then - what's the fastest way to deflect a laser > beam? In particular, I'm wondering how practical it might be to take a > laser and turn it into a vector display on a handy blank wall - but > that re

Re: LASERS! && Freemont Street LED array (was Re: Cray J932SE (was Re: Straight 8 up on Ebay just now))

2016-07-19 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Mouse > I'm wondering how practical it might be to take a laser and turn it > into a vector display on a handy blank wall Those have been around for decades - I recall seeing them used to draw things on the sides of building, _many_ moons ago. I'm assuming they bounce the beam

RE: Seagate 50-pin SCSI drives

2016-07-19 Thread Electronics Plus
They are no longer selling these on ebay. Sorry, I don't know their seller ID. Cindy -Original Message- From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Chris Hanson Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2016 3:20 PM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: Seag

Re: LASERS! && Freemont Street LED array (was Re: Cray J932SE (was Re: Straight 8 up on Ebay just now))

2016-07-19 Thread Mouse
>> I'm wondering how practical it might be to take a laser and turn it >> into a vector display on a handy blank wall > Those have been around for decades - I recall seeing them used to > draw things on the sides of building, _many_ moons ago. Yeah, me too, but my impression is that they're only f

Re: Reproduction micros

2016-07-19 Thread ben
On 7/19/2016 9:04 AM, Peter Corlett wrote: On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 03:30:19PM +0200, Liam Proven wrote: [...] There's a hint here, though: https://www.epo.org/learning-events/european-inventor/finalists/2013/wilson/feature.html From there, it seems to be saying that the essence of the invent

Re: LASERS! && Freemont Street LED array (was Re: Cray J932SE (was Re: Straight 8 up on Ebay just now))

2016-07-19 Thread jim stephens
On 7/19/2016 1:22 PM, Noel Chiappa wrote: Those have been around for decades - I recall seeing them used to draw things on the sides of building,_many_ moons ago. I know that the pen motors from Brush recorders were used eons ago. They have frequency response that is very high, and if you had

Re: LASERS! && Freemont Street LED array (was Re: Cray J932SE (was Re: Straight 8 up on Ebay just now))

2016-07-19 Thread Mouse
>> You'd probably know, then - what's the fastest way to deflect a >> laser beam? In particular, I'm wondering how practical it might be >> to take a laser and turn it into a vector display on a handy blank >> wall [...] > What bandwidth (deflection rate) do you need? Full scale in a > microsecon

Re: Reproduction micros

2016-07-19 Thread Ethan Dicks
On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 6:25 AM, Peter Corlett wrote: > On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 01:03:31PM -0600, ben wrote: > [...] >> I had hopes on the Amiga until they came out with the 2000*. >> * Lets add a brain dead cpu and run DOS. > > The A2088 was an add-in option. Back in the day, only one of my A2000

Re: Cray J932SE (was Re: Straight 8 up on Ebay just now)

2016-07-19 Thread Greg Stark
On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 5:47 PM, Mouse wrote: > For example, I once had a neighbour who replaced an outlet in his > kitchen. Turned off the breaker, removed the old one, put in the new > one, all very nice. Turned the breaker for that circuit back on and > popped the service main breaker. Heh,

RE: LASERS! && Freemont Street LED array (was Re: Cray J932SE (was Re: Straight 8 up on Ebay just now))

2016-07-19 Thread Mark Green
In my day job I work on computational holography and other forms of esoteric 3D displays, so I can give you some insight in how these things work. Remember these are vector displays and not raster displays, so the computational side is not an issue. You are basically looking at a pair of D/A conv

RE: LASERS! && Freemont Street LED array (was Re: Cray J932SE (was Re: Straight 8 up on Ebay just now))

2016-07-19 Thread Swift Griggs
On Tue, 19 Jul 2016, Mark Green wrote: > In my day job I work on computational holography and other forms of > esoteric 3D displays, so I can give you some insight in how these things > work. Holography is amazing. Do you know much about so-called "free space optical" data transmission? I worke

Re: LASERS! && Freemont Street LED array (was Re: Cray J932SE (was Re: Straight 8 up on Ebay just now))

2016-07-19 Thread ethan
Yeah, me too, but my impression is that they're only for pre-prepared displays, and only some displays (notably those that don't involve the beam turning any sharp corners, such as Lissajous figures). My impression may, of course, have been - be - incorrect, which is what I'm asking for; if you've

Re: LASERS! && Freemont Street LED array (was Re: Cray J932SE (was Re: Straight 8 up on Ebay just now))

2016-07-19 Thread ethan
Killer. I wish we were neighbors, Ethan. We'd be able to throw the most awesome block parties, I swear. I bet you are a musician, too. I live in Virginia but go to a number of events every year. I dabble with music a little, have some synths and midi hardware (and of course an Atari ST setup,

Re: LASERS! && Freemont Street LED array (was Re: Cray J932SE (was Re: Straight 8 up on Ebay just now))

2016-07-19 Thread Pete Turnbull
On 19/07/2016 21:46, Mouse wrote: You'd probably know, then - what's the fastest way to deflect a laser beam? In particular, I'm wondering how practical it might be to take a laser and turn it into a vector display Turning sharp corners is the hard part with mechanical deflectors like mirrors

Re: DEC H-500 Computer Lab pins and docs (was Re: Straight 8 up on Ebay just now)

2016-07-19 Thread Vincent Slyngstad
From: Karl-Wilhelm Wacker: Tuesday, July 19, 2016 9:25 AM Does anyone have one of the patch cables, and can they measure the diameter of the pin and it's length? The width goes from about .093" near the tip to 0.1" near the crimp. The length of the tapered region is about 0.32". The rounded

Re: LASERS! && Freemont Street LED array (was Re: Cray J932SE (was Re: Straight 8 up on Ebay just now))

2016-07-19 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Mouse > my impression is that they're only for pre-prepared displays, and only > some displays (notably those that don't involve the beam turning any > sharp corners My vague recollection is that they could do pretty sharp corners, but it's been decades. IIRC, they were mu

RE: LASERS! && Freemont Street LED array (was Re: Cray J932SE (was Re: Straight 8 up on Ebay just now))

2016-07-19 Thread Mark Green
I don't know a lot about data transmission, my main application is display. The mathematics behind data transmission and display are similar, they are based on wave propagation and diffraction and lots of Fourier transforms. The laser power is not overly important, it's the resolution of diffractio

Re: Reproduction micros

2016-07-19 Thread Eric Smith
On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 9:36 AM, Paul Koning wrote: > RISC, as a term, may come from IBM, but the concept goes back at least as far > as the CDC 6000 series. Pipelining, to the CDC 7600. Possibly depending on exactly how you define it, pipelining may go back to the IBM 7030 "Stretch" (1961). Al

Re: DEC H-500 Computer Lab pins and docs (was Re: Straight 8 up on Ebay just now)

2016-07-19 Thread Karl-Wilhelm Wacker
This company does custom tapered pins in brass - There are others out there I'm sure. I would find out what their minimum is and get a bulk order together. http://www.stanlok.com/Taper_Pin_Pages/an386.html A place I worked for in the past had www.mill-max.com do a custon part for them, in the

Re: Flex Disc options for the HP 9825

2016-07-19 Thread Curious Marc
Great info. I'm on travel but I will check which ROMs I have when I come back on Friday. Marc > On Jul 19, 2016, at 2:06 PM, tony duell wrote: > > > >> Probably a question for Tony's encyclopedic knowledge. I just >> scored two HP 9825, one a later "T" option and one "B" version >> with all

Another pdp-8 auction at 25k

2016-07-19 Thread Sam O'nella
http://m.ebay.com/itm/DEC-PDP8-I-MINICOMPUTER-PDP8-PDP-8-PDP-8-/201627112300 Did someone already post this other pdp-8 auction? Same semi-ridiculous starting price as other straight 8 but i honestly don't know enough about PDP to know what this is or if its not a straight version.  Seems like a

Re: Another pdp-8 auction at 25k

2016-07-19 Thread Ethan Dicks
On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 11:21 PM, Sam O'nella wrote: > http://m.ebay.com/itm/DEC-PDP8-I-MINICOMPUTER-PDP8-PDP-8-PDP-8-/201627112300 > > Did someone already post this other pdp-8 auction? This PDP-8/i has been up at this price for some time. This might or might not be the original auction, but it

DECmate, Rainbow, and Pro 350/380 parts

2016-07-19 Thread Paul Anderson
I just dug out what might be my last extra DECmate II CPU for a list member, and now have access to several Pro and Rainbow CPUs and other parts. If you have any interest, please contact me off list. Shipping from Illinois. Thanks, Paul

Re: LASERS! && Freemont Street LED array (was Re: Cray J932SE (was Re: Straight 8 up on Ebay just now))

2016-07-19 Thread Wayne Sudol
Laser technology to draw things like this is used in photo typesetters. A laser beam is focused onto a thin (about 1/2" thick) many sided (about 8 sides i think) spinning mirror. Each facet of the mirror is cut differently to deflict the beam up, down or center it on a sheet of moving paper or a p

Re: DEC H-500 Computer Lab pins and docs (was Re: Straight 8 up on Ebay just now)

2016-07-19 Thread Vincent Slyngstad
From: Karl-Wilhelm Wacker: Tuesday, July 19, 2016 5:21 PM This company does custom tapered pins in brass - There are others out there I'm sure. I would find out what their minimum is and get a bulk order together. http://www.stanlok.com/Taper_Pin_Pages/an386.html A place I worked for in the pa