Actually found a pretty nice hp machine with a bunch of peripherals.
Thankfully it came with the keyboard. Also a external hard drive and
floppy, as well as a tiny printer.
HP 362 "controller"
Hp thinkjet 2225A printer
Hp 9153B - HD and floppy
Also a IBM wheelwriter 3 with the parallel interface,
Hello.
I've recently acquired what came to be a Siemens PC-MX2 Set that is
comprised of:
* 4 Siemens Dossiers named:
- Informix
- BetriebeSystem SINIX Buch 1
- BetriebeSystem SINIX Buch 2 Menus
- Siemens PC-MX2 Betriebsanleitung
12 Tapes:
- 10 of them are of brand 3M, Model DC300
well come to think of it, i was at a HAM convention and i bought a bunch of
wire wrap boards that were supposedly from CDC system. wire wrap boards
with a card edge connector. I will have to see if they fit together.
On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 12:39 AM, Brent Hilpert wrote:
> On 2016-Jul-16, at 8:3
You got yourself the first consumer inkjet printer ever, from 1984:
https://youtu.be/UiHNymmxKWs
Original "A" version with HP-IB interface, useless for regular PCs of course.
Complete with the "SomethingJet" marketing name that has been with us since
then. The key innovation of that printer was t
On 2016-Jul-16, at 8:34 PM, devin davison wrote:
> as well as what im
> assuming is a s100 backplane.
> https://www.slashflash.info/~devin/images/scrapyard_lot/IMG_0148.JPG
> https://www.slashflash.info/~devin/images/scrapyard_lot/IMG_0149.JPG
Looks earlier than S100. I don't think I've ever s
> On 16 Jul 2016, at 3:33 pm, TeoZ wrote:
>
>
> Most 840av's these days have bad motherboards from leaking capacitors and the
> plastics break if you sneeze too hard close to them.
>
Yes, I just gave away my 840av. It was working (and looking) fine a couple of
years ago, but when I checked
> Original "A" version with HP-IB interface, useless for regular
> PCs of course. Complete with the "SomethingJet" marketing
It's mildly easier to use with a normal PC than the -B model (HPIL,
battery powered). Interestingly the -A version has an HPIB-HPIL
interface feeding HPIL to the main board
> On Jul 16, 2016, at 6:56 PM, Antonio Carlini wrote:
>
> ...
> The specs were (and are) freely available. (I'm not 100% sure that they were
> free-as-in-beer back then, but they are now).
I assume you had to pay for the cost of printing. They could be freely
reproduced, though, it says so e
> On Jul 17, 2016, at 10:41 AM, Paul Koning wrote:
>
> ...
> I suppose so. Rumor had it that Phase I only existed on RSX, but it appears
> that there was a PDP-8 implementation as well. Phase II was implemented on
> lots of DEC systems, from TOPS-10 to RT-11 to RSTS/E.
By the way: starting
On 15 July 2016 at 20:48, Jerry Kemp wrote:
> I guess I am glad that someone getting something positive from windows.
>
> I have never viewed it as any more than a virus distribution system with a
> poorly written GUI front end.
I am ambivalent. I don't particularly like it any more, but the
rea
> On Jul 17, 2016, at 10:41 AM, Paul Koning wrote:
>
>
>> On Jul 16, 2016, at 6:56 PM, Antonio Carlini wrote:
>>
>> ...
>> The specs were (and are) freely available. (I'm not 100% sure that they were
>> free-as-in-beer back then, but they are now).
>
> I assume you had to pay for the cost o
On 16 July 2016 at 13:12, Peter Corlett wrote:
>
> Isn't that mostly down to the difference between polled- and DMA-driven I/O?
> Not that IBM should be given any slack, given what a complete dog's breakfast
> ISA DMA is.
>
> Back in 1987, the Amiga had crap hard disk performance because while the
> On Jul 17, 2016, at 11:06 AM, John Forecast wrote:
>
>> ...
>> I suppose so. Rumor had it that Phase I only existed on RSX, but it appears
>> that there was a PDP-8 implementation as well. Phase II was implemented on
>> lots of DEC systems, from TOPS-10 to RT-11 to RSTS/E. My initial
>>
On 16 July 2016 at 19:16, Christian Corti
wrote:
> The A2000 did *not* have a built-in hard disk, that was the A3000. The A2000
> was just an "updated" A1000 in a large desktop case with Zorro slots...
> completely braindead.
Again with the "braindead" jibes. You have not clarified or explained
w
> On Jul 17, 2016, at 11:13 AM, Paul Koning wrote:
>
>
>> On Jul 17, 2016, at 11:06 AM, John Forecast wrote:
>>
>>> ...
>>> I suppose so. Rumor had it that Phase I only existed on RSX, but it
>>> appears that there was a PDP-8 implementation as well. Phase II was
>>> implemented on lots o
Very good information to know about the printer, thanks. I am assuming
that the new cartridges I get from staples should not have the toxic ink?
Will it still be corrosive?
There was a second printer over there, missing the plastic cover and
scratched up. I think i will pick it up too for parts.
A very nice IBM 3480 brochure ended up in my hands yesterday and I had
to bump it to the top of the scan queue:
https://archive.org/details/IBM3480MagneticTapeSubsystemBrochure
Lots of nice shots of IBM data center tape equipment as well as a cool
"history of tape at IBM" set of pages. I've neve
3480 is interesting technically because it was one of the first drives to use
magneto-restrictive
read heads, which are much more sensitive than inductive. The 18 track head
stack will work on a
conventional 1/2" tape transport, as will the 36 track heads from a 3490.
This is what is in the modi
On 2016-Jul-17, at 9:23 AM, Jason T wrote:
> A very nice IBM 3480 brochure ended up in my hands yesterday and I had
> to bump it to the top of the scan queue:
>
> https://archive.org/details/IBM3480MagneticTapeSubsystemBrochure
>
> Lots of nice shots of IBM data center tape equipment as well as
On 7/17/16 9:21 AM, devin davison wrote:
> As far as the disk drive goes, if it is a proprietary hard drive in there,
> that is a bummer.
They are conventional drives. The 360 or 380 are nice machines that will also
run HP/UX
and come in handy for recovery of HPIB disk drives. I used a 380 to
Memory sticks don't appear to be normal, though.
I never bothered to dig into what's different about them, since
they were available cheaply on eBay when i was working on the data
recovery project.
On 7/17/16 9:43 AM, Al Kossow wrote:
>
>
> On 7/17/16 9:21 AM, devin davison wrote:
>
>> As far
Yeah i saw that it was capable or running HP/UX and wanted to take a look
at that. Sadly it did not come with a NIC, that would have been pretty
useful for getting data into and out of the machine over the network,
instead ill be limited to floppys.
The basic os that came installed on it looks pre
re-reading the paper,
"mechanical bit validation" was a little confusing for a while until I
remembered that
he also digitizes the tach signal, so he knows the absolute position of the
tape.
On 7/17/16 9:41 AM, Al Kossow wrote:
> This is what is in the modified STC 9914V drives shown in this pa
It's "Rocky Mountain BASIC" V6.2, which you used to be able to get as floppy
images
from the Australian HP Museum. I think the standalone Pascal system still ran
on these
as well.
On 7/17/16 9:47 AM, devin davison wrote:
> The basic os that came installed on it looks pretty interesting too,
> a
which also ran on PCs on the 82324B Measurement Coprocessor
http://www.hpmuseum.net/display_item.php?hw=909
On 7/17/16 9:53 AM, Al Kossow wrote:
> It's "Rocky Mountain BASIC" V6.2,
Original "A" version with HP-IB interface, useless for regular
PCs of course. Complete with the "SomethingJet" marketing
On Sun, 17 Jul 2016, tony duell wrote:
It's mildly easier to use with a normal PC than the -B model (HPIL,
There were also variant models with "Centronics" interface.
Those
> Very good information to know about the printer, thanks. I am assuming
> that the new cartridges I get from staples should not have the toxic ink?
> Will it still be corrosive?
My guess is that the ink formulation has not changed. I think other
things (maybe element power, timing, etc) would h
On 07/17/2016 10:17 AM, tony duell wrote:
> Ethylene glycol is, of course, commonly found in car anti-freeze.
> The printer ink is not rediculously toxic, but some animals find it
> tastes sweet, they drink all they can find and it leads to kindney
> failure.
A couple of decades ago, there was a
> > As far as the disk drive goes, if it is a proprietary hard drive in there,
> > that is a bummer.
>
> They are conventional drives. The 360 or 380 are nice machines that will also
> run HP/UX
As far as I am aware the HP9153B is the same as an HP9154B
with a floppy drive fitted. The 9154B us
windows 95 - yea, even bill gates stated that windows 95 was the pinnacle.
ease of installation - maybe due to the fact that the bulk, if not all of us
here are experienced users, I've never understood the belly-aching concerning
installation. Not for DOS/windows, not for OS/2, not for BSD, no
There's a battery in my QX-10; anyone know if it's safe to remove it before
it leaks (i.e. it's not responsible for storing any parameters which might
be vital to system operation)?
I think most of my machines which have batteries just use them for things
such as TOD clock and so it's no big
On 17 Jul 2016, at 17:28, Liam Proven wrote:
[...]
> Again with the "braindead" jibes. You have not clarified or explained
> what your objection to the machine was.
We perhaps forget just how eyewateringly expensive these things were. They were
"braindead" because to build them "properly" would
On 17 July 2016 at 16:09, Liam Proven wrote:
> In 1987 or so, the early Archimedes like the A305 and A310 came with
> ST-506 controllers and 20-40MB Conner drives. The expensive
> workstation-class models -- Dick mentions having an A500, but that was
> a series, not a model.
The A500 was the deve
>> for some incomprehensible reason, you can still order brand new cartridges
>> from... Staples!
Another thanks for the tip; I've got an HP2225B (HP-IL, with RS-232 converter)
which presumably uses the same cartridge. Will have to check it out.
m
- Original Message -
From: "Curious M
> On Jul 17, 2016, at 12:12 PM, John Forecast wrote:
>
>
>> On Jul 17, 2016, at 11:13 AM, Paul Koning wrote:
>>
>>
>>> On Jul 17, 2016, at 11:06 AM, John Forecast wrote:
>>>
...
I suppose so. Rumor had it that Phase I only existed on RSX, but it
appears that there was a PD
Hi Jules
I found removing my QX-10's battery stopped the machines working. I tried
replacing it with a lithium battery after disabling the recharging circuit
but that didn't work either.
The old battery doesn't show any signs of leaking so I just left it in
there. I check all my machines with b
> On Jul 17, 2016, at 3:29 PM, Terry Stewart wrote:
>
> Hi Jules
>
> I found removing my QX-10's battery stopped the machines working. I tried
> replacing it with a lithium battery after disabling the recharging circuit
> but that didn't work either.
In the early days of amateur radio transmi
What a flash back...
(SMECC is always looking for anything related to these products)
The HPIL thinkjet version was also used with the hp portable and hp
portable pluslaptops.
we have some of them in the SMECC here... butback when I was CEO
Computer Exchange inc we sol
On Jul 15, 2016, at 1:49 PM, Austin Pass wrote:
> I have several G5's, but am at a loss as to what to do with them. If they
> supported classic Mac OS I'd have one up and running in a heartbeat.
You can't boot MacOS 9 on them, but you can run Classic under 10.4 on a G5 and
it screams.
-- Ch
On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 7:19 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote:
> I recall that BSD was a great match for our 11/750. Never did succeed
> at getting HASP+bisync going on it though.
Oh? Which method/product were you trying? I used to do that every
day with our own boards. I had heard that some of our sal
On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 3:47 PM, Ethan Dicks wrote:
> with a little left over). Our largest Unibus machine was an 11/750
> (though we had an VAX 8300 w/DWBUA, and an NMI-based VAX 8350 as our
> largest machine, both purchased for supporting our VAXBI product
> line). I kept the 8300 and the 11/
that is interesting to know the old os can be run under the newer.
I am confused on some of the G5 stuff.
there is a real early one that has non intel processor
then there is a 1.1 ( i have one too) but you can not upgrade to the
latest os (bummer)
then there is the G% 3 or 3.3 dated one
> On Jul 17, 2016, at 3:26 PM, Paul Koning wrote:
>
>>
>> On Jul 17, 2016, at 12:12 PM, John Forecast wrote:
>>
>>
>>> On Jul 17, 2016, at 11:13 AM, Paul Koning wrote:
>>>
>>>
On Jul 17, 2016, at 11:06 AM, John Forecast wrote:
> ...
> I suppose so. Rumor had it that P
> On Jul 17, 2016, at 3:37 PM, Paul Koning wrote:
>
>
>> On Jul 17, 2016, at 3:29 PM, Terry Stewart wrote:
>>
>> Hi Jules
>>
>> I found removing my QX-10's battery stopped the machines working. I tried
>> replacing it with a lithium battery after disabling the recharging circuit
>> but that
And SheepShaver is an option to run Classic/Mac OS apps on Intel based Mac OS X
boxes.
Jerry
On 07/17/16 02:56 PM, couryho...@aol.com wrote:
that is interesting to know the old os can be run under the newer.
I am confused on some of the G5 stuff.
there is a real early one that has non intel
>Anyone here successfully replaced the battery?
Hi Paul,
As I mentioned, I did try a standard Lithium battery after disabling the
recharging circuit. The machine just would not fire up boot. I haven't
tried a NiMH or Lithium ion rechargeable though. I'd be interested to know
if these work.
Ter
> Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2016 23:34:22 -0400
> From: devin davison
> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic Posts"
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> Actually found a pretty nic
Well, i will have to see if i can find any matching wire wrap cards to plug
into the backpane and i can perhaps make something of it. I did not pay
much for it, its no big liss if it is useless.
On 7/17/16 10:21 AM, tony duell wrote:
>
> The 9154B uses an HP drive known as
> a 'Nighthawk' which does not have a normal interface.
sorry, I misread the post as asking about drives inside a 360
> On Jul 17, 2016, at 4:57 PM, Terry Stewart wrote:
>
>> Anyone here successfully replaced the battery?
>
> Hi Paul,
>
> As I mentioned, I did try a standard Lithium battery after disabling the
> recharging circuit. The machine just would not fire up boot. I haven't
> tried a NiMH or Lithium
> > What is it that "sucked" about the VMS command line?
>
> I'm sure there were many, mostly small ones. Here are the ones big
> enough for me to remember after this many years (this was in the
> early-to-mid '80s):
>
> - No command-line editing. (Well, minimal: editing at end-of-line, but
>
> On Jul 17, 2016, at 6:03 PM, Peter Coghlan wrote:
>
> ...
> I think that dates/times were done pretty well on VMS with the exception
> of a couple of blunders - not going further back than 1858 for the base
> date and not having the system manage time in UTC while allowing
> individual users t
> And SheepShaver is an option to run Classic/Mac OS apps on Intel based
> Mac OS X boxes.
It's an option, but it's not a very good one. It has various compatibility
issues with certain programs (usually the most interesting/useful ones)
and it does not run anything past 9.0.4. For the programs it
> On Jul 17, 2016, at 11:03 PM, tony duell wrote:
>
> The ink is also corrosive. It can corrode the metal faceplate
> on the cartridge, then drip onto the flexible PCB that connects
> the cartridge to the rest of the printer and corrode that too.
> If you ever have a Thinkjet with missing dots,
>But it is distressing that you're not able to get yours to start again!
No, that's not the case fortunately. It would only not start with the new
battery and the recharging circuit disabled. I soldered the old battery
back in and reconfiguring the charging circuit back to what it was. It
works
BTW, while we discussing the QX-10 I'd love to hear from anyone that has
any games which show off its nice green-screen graphics.
Terry (Tez)
From: Brent Hilpert
> I don't think I've ever seen a wirewrapped S100 backplane, they were
> pretty much all PCB.
For what it's worth, I've seen many WW S-100 backplanes, especially
from the days when it was common to assemble your own systems from
parts/kits, and before S-100 was a "standard".
On 07/17/2016 08:12 PM, Terry Stewart wrote:
BTW, while we discussing the QX-10 I'd love to hear from anyone that has
any games which show off its nice green-screen graphics.
"Underground City" (I think that's what it's called, without digging it
out) is the only one that I have, but there's s
> that is interesting to know the old os can be run under the newer.
> I am confused on some of the G5 stuff.
> there is a real early one that has non intel processor
> then there is a 1.1 ( i have one too) but you can not upgrade to the
> latest os (bummer)
>
> then there is the G% 3 or 3
I'm not disagreeing with you. I have multiple PPC Mac's and a couple of
PowerBooks. I'm set.
Apple systems from the past typically had 2 big advantages over windows based
systems.
* significantly easier to administer, and at least some level of stability over
MS code
* Apple systems last
On Jul 17, 2016, at 12:56 PM, couryho...@aol.com wrote:
> that is interesting to know the old os can be run under the newer.
This was a standard feature of Mac OS X on PowerPC hardware from the 10.0
developer builds through 10.4.
> I am confused on some of the G5 stuff.
> there is a real ear
On 7/17/16 9:23 PM, Cameron Kaiser wrote:
that is interesting to know the old os can be run under the newer.
I am confused on some of the G5 stuff.
there is a real early one that has non intel processor
then there is a 1.1 ( i have one too) but you can not upgrade to the
latest os (bummer)
oppssorry many typos... see clarification interlaced..
In a message dated 7/17/2016 8:04:07 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
cmhan...@eschatologist.net writes:
That would be a PowerMac G5. No Power Macintosh has an Intel processor
yes that is first g5 has a more elegant inte
> Back on topic, many Mac users today would/have stuck their nose up at PPC
> and 68K powered boxes, and don't even acknowledge them. If a critical piece
> of Mac OS code crossed their path, SheepShaver would be their only option.
True, and that's a shame, since Classic happily runs most 68K apps
> The HPIL thinkjet version was also used with the hp portable and hp
> portable pluslaptops.
> we have some of them in the SMECC here... butback when I was CEO
> Computer Exchange inc we sold lost of these.. it was a small laptop
> with applications in ROM but also had a
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