> On Jul 17, 2016, at 3:26 PM, Paul Koning <paulkon...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> On Jul 17, 2016, at 12:12 PM, John Forecast <j...@forecast.name> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> On Jul 17, 2016, at 11:13 AM, Paul Koning <paulkon...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Jul 17, 2016, at 11:06 AM, John Forecast <j...@forecast.name> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> ...
>>>>> I suppose so. Rumor had it that Phase I only existed on RSX, but it
>>>>> appears that there was a PDP-8 implementation as well. Phase II was
>>>>> implemented on lots of DEC systems, from TOPS-10 to RT-11 to RSTS/E. My
>>>>> initial involvement with DECnet was as the DECnet/E kernel guy, upgrading
>>>>> DECnet/E from Phase II to Phase III.
>>>>>
>>>> I worked at a customer site in Sweden which consisted of a pair of
>>>> 11/40’s running
>>>> RSX-11D and DECnet Phase I. I’m pretty sure that Phase I only ran on
>>>> 11D in the RSX
>>>> family.
>>>
>>> I'd always heard that. But recently I found Phase I documents, which
>>> include protocol specifications of a sort, sufficient to tell that it
>>> wouldn't be compatible with Phase II and couldn't readily be made to be.
>>> (In particular, NSP works rather differently.) And that document was for a
>>> PDP-8 OS.
>>>
>> I meant that RSX-11D was the only supported PDP-11 OS. The RTS/8
>> DECNET/8
>> SPD is up on bitsavers with a date of May 1977 so it was already a late
>> addition to
>> the Phase I development - I had joined the networking group in the Mill
>> in Feb 1977
>> to work on Phase II. The SPDs for those Phase II products were dated
>> Jun 1978
>> which seems about right.
>
> So does that mean that RTS/8 DECnet Phase I was built but not shipped? Or
> shipped but not supported? The document I referred to is a full manual
> "RTS/8 DECNET/8 User's Guide, Order No. AA-5184A-TA". A note at the start
> says "converted from scanned text 1-Jun-1996" and just below that "First
> printing, February 1977". Chapter 6 is a fairly detained description of
> protocol message formats, which look vaguely like NSP as we know it but only
> vaguely.
>
I don’t know if it ever shipped. An SPD would imply that it got pretty
far along in the
release process.
> paul
