On Fri, 11 Dec 2015, Robert Jarratt wrote:
> Well, I have the exception that proves the rule. My H7864 PSU (from an
> rtVAX 1000, same PSU as MicroVAX II) had a switching transistor and
> resistor fail, no cap failures
Well, I did admit I was exagerrating. :)
--
Richard Loken VE6BSV, Uni
Chuck Guzis wrote:
On 12/11/2015 05:02 PM, Oliver Lehmann wrote:
Which is perfectly fine - I just want to see what is going on the
drive interface + timings - to see what is going on differently from
my implementation.
If I've got the drive and it's working, at least I've got some x86
co
Exciting stuff for a Friday night, right? Here's a visual aid in case
you're needing further inspiration:
https://www.instagram.com/p/_K-zHhHvLn78Qu5ijWqMf-HBem1LKMLaEdI1c0/ The
M2333K is the smaller one on the left with the green and yellow lights on.
I'm booting from rl0, which contains the tuh
On 12/11/15 5:50 PM, Jacob Ritorto wrote:
Exciting stuff for a Friday night, right? Here's a visual aid in case
you're needing further inspiration:
https://www.instagram.com/p/_K-zHhHvLn78Qu5ijWqMf-HBem1LKMLaEdI1c0/ The
M2333K is the smaller one on the left with the green and yellow lights on.
On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 8:50 PM, Jacob Ritorto wrote:
> Exciting stuff for a Friday night, right?
It is!
> https://www.instagram.com/p/_K-zHhHvLn78Qu5ijWqMf-HBem1LKMLaEdI1c0/
Nice!
> xp0a: hard error bn cs2=1100 er1=0
>
> on every single block when I try to mkfs /dev/xp0a 4800
I can't h
Sent from my iPhone
> On Dec 10, 2015, at 2:55 AM, "drlegendre ." wrote:
>
> Hey Mike,
>
> Thanks, but I don't know if I need the codes, they are probably posted
> online? In any case, I found the game in my archive, so I attached it for
> you..
>
> It's in a zip file, containing one or two
On 12 December 2015 at 03:00, Rich Alderson
wrote:
> From: Liam Proven
> Sent: Friday, December 11, 2015 10:54 AM
>
>> On 10 December 2015 at 20:42, Rich Alderson
>> wrote:
>
>>> From: Liam Proven
>>> Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2015 8:33 AM
>
*I* never delete my emails. I have a trail bac
If I would have known!!!
WOW I would have just read more posts before I posted my first post look at
this mess... There is no reason for people to be rude or disrespectful to new
people like myself. I have never joined a place like this I know now that it
has been said 1 times to sc
Sent from my iPhone
> On Dec 10, 2015, at 7:20 PM, Jason T wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 6:13 PM, drlegendre . wrote:
>> But yes, there are methods (even from the classic era) to load arbitrary
>> code into the 2600 using a proprietary cartridge and a cassette tape
>> machine. In essenc
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 10, 2015, at 7:45 AM, Noel Chiappa wrote:
>> From: Pontus Pihlgren
>
>> Once, I was told by a friend that he had dumpstered not one but two
>> PDP-12s!!
>
>> It still gives me the chills.
>
> I can top that. Someone told me they were going to start a thread about
On Dec 12, 2015 6:41 AM, "Mike" wrote:
>
> If I would have known!!!
>
> WOW I would have just read more posts before I posted my first post look
at this mess... There is no reason for people to be rude or disrespectful
to new people like myself. I have never joined a place like this I know now
tha
NonStopTalk Team
> On Dec 12, 2015, at 6:57 AM, william degnan wrote:
>
>> On Dec 12, 2015 6:41 AM, "Mike" wrote:
>>
>> If I would have known!!!
>>
>> WOW I would have just read more posts before I posted my first post look
> at this mess... There is no reason for people to be rude or disre
> On Dec 11, 2015, at 8:00 PM, Rich Alderson
> wrote:
>
> From: Liam Proven
> Sent: Friday, December 11, 2015 10:54 AM
>
>> On 10 December 2015 at 20:42, Rich Alderson
>> wrote:
>
>>> From: Liam Proven
>>> Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2015 8:33 AM
>
*I* never delete my emails. I have
> On Dec 11, 2015, at 8:00 PM, Rich Alderson
> wrote:
>
> From: Liam Proven
> Sent: Friday, December 11, 2015 10:54 AM
>
>> On 10 December 2015 at 20:42, Rich Alderson
>> wrote:
>
>>> From: Liam Proven
>>> Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2015 8:33 AM
>
*I* never delete my emails. I ha
> On Dec 11, 2015, at 7:12 PM, Brent Hilpert wrote:
>
> On 2015-Dec-11, at 4:43 PM, Fred Cisin wrote:
>
It's a total waste of time having to re-read all the unnecessary crap
many times just to get to a one sentence reply.
>>
>> IFF people were to be considerate and delete/trim/remov
- Original Message -
From: "Mike"
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2015 2:22 PM
Subject: Re: [cctalk] Re: TOP POSTING
> The one question I do have for the older gentlemen on here is what in the
> world did the computers without a scr
> On Dec 12, 2015, at 7:49 AM, Nico de Jong wrote:
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Mike"
> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
>
> Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2015 2:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [cctalk] Re: TOP POSTING
>
>> The one question I do have for the old
On 12/11/2015 3:50 PM, Dale H. Cook wrote:
At 01:47 PM 12/11/2015, Dave G4UGM wrote
I have searched high and low for a decent e-mail client for Windows.
I still use Eudora Pro.
I'm using the current version of Thunderbird[*] right now and it not
only quotes properly, but I've got it configu
http://www.ebay.com/itm/USED-KAYPRO-4-COMPUTER-MOTHERBOARD-/331730690952?
The non soldermask boad on top of the main unit intrigues me. Does
anyone know what it is?
Jim
--
Jim Brain
br...@jbrain.com
www.jbrain.com
[2^6 lines of irrelevance omitted]
On Sat, 12 Dec 2015, Mike wrote:
The one question I do have for the older gentlemen on here is what in
the world did the computers without a screen to look at do? Now I know
about the tape, cassette tape's and even the paper with the hole punches
in them but
On Sat, Dec 12, 2015 at 8:32 AM, Jim Brain wrote:
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/USED-KAYPRO-4-COMPUTER-MOTHERBOARD-/331730690952?
>
> The non soldermask boad on top of the main unit intrigues me. Does anyone
> know what it is?
>
> Jim
The board says Centram Systems, Inc, Camp Hill, Pa.
There is a m
On 12/12/2015 07:22 AM, Mike wrote:
The one question I do have for the older gentlemen on here
is what in the world did the computers without a screen to
look at do? Now I know about the tape, cassette tape's and
even the paper with the hole punches in them but what kind
of applications were t
On 12/11/15 9:33 PM, Josh Dersch wrote:
On 12/11/15 5:50 PM, Jacob Ritorto wrote:
Exciting stuff for a Friday night, right? Here's a visual aid in case
you're needing further inspiration:
https://www.instagram.com/p/_K-zHhHvLn78Qu5ijWqMf-HBem1LKMLaEdI1c0/ The
M2333K is the smaller one on the lef
Mike,
One of the key manners of getting information processed was batch jobs run
by the computer staff.You never see the computer at all.
Individual programs (usually one at a time - using the whole machine for
one program) were loaded, pointed at input files, run and then unloaded
with the
o
On 12/12/2015 08:18 AM, tulsamike3...@gmail.com wrote:
So did you have to learn how to read the punch hole cards also or did the punch
hole cards go into the computer and than printed out the data on the fan fold
paper also was it in code or just plane English?
You COULD read the holes, if you
On 12/12/2015 09:07 AM, Gene Buckle wrote:
[*] A power outage on Wednesday killed the power supply in
my main mail exchanger that I read email on via Alpine.
F*ck Dell and their proprietary power supplies and
connectors!
All my Dell Optiplex boxes (that's the commercial grade
models) h
On Sat, 12 Dec 2015, tulsamike3...@gmail.com wrote:
So did you have to learn how to read the punch hole cards also or did
the punch hole cards go into the computer and than printed out the data
on the fan fold paper also was it in code or just plane English?
Yes.
If you dealt with the cards l
> Sometime later, maybe around 1971 they got some IBM 2741 terminals which
> were Selectric typewriters connected to an interface. Later they got some
> IBM 2260's, which were Zenith 9" TV sets and a keyboard connected to an
> interface box in the machine room. Very primitive, but very interactiv
Until the advent of "personal" computers, a computer generally did not
have a screen. If you were doing stuff for which a creen would be useful,
you used a "peripheral" device, called a "terminal".
>
>
> The one question I do have for the older gentlemen on here is what in the
> world did the computers without a screen to look at do? Now I know about
> the tape, cassette tape's and even the paper with the hole punches in them
> but what kind of applications were they use for? Mathematics or?
On 12/10/2015 01:11 AM, Mike wrote:
WOW sounds like ya got a good haul hope ya did not have to pay to much!
No, I got a good deal, although (unsurprisingly) it just about all needs
work. One C64 is healthy, the other one gives a black screen. The Vic
printer is completely unresponsive, and th
On 12/11/2015 04:35 PM, Oliver Lehmann wrote:
Western Digital Caviar 31600 it is.
I took a peek today and found that I've got a couple of AC31200 drives,
but no 31600s. Do you think that the 31200 is close enough to your drive?
--Chuck
On 12/12/2015 6:22 AM, Mike wrote:
The one question I do have for the older gentlemen on here is what
in the world did the computers without a screen to look at do? Now I
know about the tape, cassette tape's and even the paper with the
hole punches in them but what kind of applications were they
/dev/null again...
On 11-12-15 19:33, Liam Proven wrote:
On 10 December 2015 at 18:07, tony duell wrote:
If your mail program doesn't let you scroll to the end of a message and
start typing then it is fundametnally broken. It may not be convenient, but
that is not my problem!
Strongly agree
Jay West- for the love of all that is vintage computing, please ban this
guy.
On Sat, Dec 12, 2015 at 4:13 AM, Mike wrote:
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 10, 2015, at 7:45 AM, Noel Chiappa wrote:
>
> >> From: Pontus Pihlgren
> >
> >> Once, I was told by a friend that he had dumpstered not
If I would have known!!! WOW I would have just read more posts before I
posted my first post look at this mess... There is no reason for people
to be rude or disrespectful to new people like myself. I have never
joined a place like this I know now that it has been said 1
times to sc
On 12/11/2015 05:57 PM, Dave Wade wrote:
, Dave G4UGM
wrote:
However, I used to use and like Thunderbird and still do on Linux
and Mac.
Thunderbird is a PITA. In order to get buttons that let you go to the
next message you need several plug-ins...
Uh, no you don't. RIght-click
Simon Claessen wrote:
>
> Another great day started with me deciding that thorwing away 70% of a list
> every day is not worthwhile any more. This list is acting like Whatsapp and
> Facebook more and more.
>
> It seems that a lot of people are unable to keep on topic. Its a shame.
> It would be s
Hi all.
Another great day started with me deciding that thorwing away 70% of a
list every day is not worthwhile any more. This list is acting like
Whatsapp and Facebook more and more.
It seems that a lot of people are unable to keep on topic. Its a shame.
It would be so handy if people could
On 12/11/2015 05:58 PM, Dave Wade wrote:
-Original Message-
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of wulfman
Sent: 11 December 2015 19:26
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: TOP POSTING
Thunderbird has calendars now.
Only with
Chuck Guzis wrote:
On 12/11/2015 04:35 PM, Oliver Lehmann wrote:
Western Digital Caviar 31600 it is.
I took a peek today and found that I've got a couple of AC31200
drives, but no 31600s. Do you think that the 31200 is close enough
to your drive?
Probably yes - has it a blue line in
I'm also interested if you have any information about what the system
was doing Noel!
Was it in use until just recently? It's always fun to hear about older
systems that are still being used for production work.
On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 8:09 AM, Noel Chiappa wrote:
> So I know someone who has a wo
On 12/12/2015 12:23 PM, Oliver Lehmann wrote:
http://files.pofo.de/20151212_212051.jpg
http://files.pofo.de/20151212_212105.jpg
I also have newer Caviars 26400 and 23200 which are working fine.
Nope--green line and the PCB doesn't look like yours. I have an orange
22500 and that, again, u
On 12/12/2015 11:17 AM, William Donzelli wrote:
Sometime later, maybe around 1971 they got some IBM 2741 terminals which
were Selectric typewriters connected to an interface. Later they got some
IBM 2260's, which were Zenith 9" TV sets and a keyboard connected to an
interface box in the machine
> On Dec 12, 2015, at 4:26 PM, Jon Elson wrote:
>
> On 12/12/2015 11:17 AM, William Donzelli wrote:
>>> Sometime later, maybe around 1971 they got some IBM 2741 terminals which
>>> were Selectric typewriters connected to an interface. Later they got some
>>> IBM 2260's, which were Zenith 9" TV
I've been a member of this list for many years. Sometimes people are on topic.
Sometimes they are not. But the list remains a useful source of infirmation
and trivia alike.
I understand where the key is, and what its function is. I have found
that judicious use can increase my happyness le
> >> Thunderbird has calendars now.
> >>
> >
> > Only with more plug-ins
> >
>
> You're not running current Thunderbird, are you?
I am, and I see that as from V38 (basically the current version) the
calendar add-on is bundled with Thunderbird BUT ITS STILL AN ADDON THAT HAS
TO BE SEPARA
I am using Thunderbird 38.4.0 on a couple of PC's. I use Google
calendar for scheduling.
Tony Pflum
On 12/12/2015 3:08 PM, Dave Woyciesjes wrote:
On 12/11/2015 05:58 PM, Dave Wade wrote:
-Original Message-
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of
wulfman
Chuck Guzis wrote:
On 12/12/2015 12:23 PM, Oliver Lehmann wrote:
http://files.pofo.de/20151212_212051.jpg
http://files.pofo.de/20151212_212105.jpg
I also have newer Caviars 26400 and 23200 which are working fine.
Nope--green line and the PCB doesn't look like yours. I have an
orange
On Sat, Dec 12, 2015, Mike wrote:
> The one question I do have for the older gentlemen on here is what in the
> world did the computers without a screen to look at do? Now I know about the
> tape, cassette tape's and even the paper with the hole punches in them but
> what kind of applications we
On Sat, Dec 12, 2015, Fred Cisin wrote:
> you could feed the cards through an INTERPRETER, which printed the card
> content on the card.
[snip]
> For many years, I kept around a plug-board labelled "COBOL INTERPRETER",
> just to prove that a COBOL interpreter was possible :-)
Are you using "interp
On Sat, Dec 12, 2015, Robert Rissell wrote:
> The batch job consisted of a Batch Number for accounting, the keyword-coded
> header card(s) to tell the computer what to do with the following cards
> such as Compile, Link, Execute then Output for a Fortran source.
[snip]
> Following the source you wo
you could feed the cards through an INTERPRETER, which printed the card
content on the card.
[snip]
For many years, I kept around a plug-board labelled "COBOL INTERPRETER",
just to prove that a COBOL interpreter was possible :-)
On Sat, 12 Dec 2015, Eric Christopherson wrote:
Are you using "i
On Sat, Dec 12, 2015 at 4:45 PM, Fred Cisin wrote:
> you could feed the cards through an INTERPRETER, which printed the card
>>> content on the card.
>>>
>> [snip]
>>
>>> For many years, I kept around a plug-board labelled "COBOL INTERPRETER",
>>> just to prove that a COBOL interpreter was possib
I have four 1541's now, two of which seem to init OK, and two of which sit
there with the drive spindle constantly spinning and the access LEDs lit,
the latter behavior which I believe indicates a multitude of possible
microcontroller-related faults...
I've done the obvious, reseating socket
For many years, I kept around a plug-board labelled "COBOL INTERPRETER",
just to prove that a COBOL interpreter was possible :-)
notice the "emoticon" at the end of my original post. I was trying to
convey knowledge of the misinterpretation, and the humor of it.
On Sat, 12 Dec 2015, Charles
On 12/12/2015 8:32 AM, Jim Brain wrote:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/USED-KAYPRO-4-COMPUTER-MOTHERBOARD-/331730690952?
The non soldermask boad on top of the main unit intrigues me. Does
anyone know what it is?
I'm not sure what the board is, but it's pretty new with a 1993
copyright date on it.
On 12/12/2015 03:38 PM, Oliver Lehmann wrote:
No, I'm only polling the regular status register. The Interrupt pins
are not connected. My application is single threaded anyway so
polling is fine for me - I would wait anyhow until the interrupt
occured.
Hmmm, that could be the issue. I remembe
On 2015-Dec-12, at 4:15 PM, Eric Christopherson wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 12, 2015, Robert Rissell wrote:
>> The batch job consisted of a Batch Number for accounting, the keyword-coded
>> header card(s) to tell the computer what to do with the following cards
>> such as Compile, Link, Execute then Outpu
On 12/12/2015 8:52 AM, Glen Slick wrote:
On Sat, Dec 12, 2015 at 8:32 AM, Jim Brain wrote:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/USED-KAYPRO-4-COMPUTER-MOTHERBOARD-/331730690952?
The non soldermask boad on top of the main unit intrigues me. Does anyone
know what it is?
Jim
The board says Centram Systems
On Sat, Dec 12, 2015, Fred Cisin wrote:
> For many years, I kept around a plug-board labelled "COBOL INTERPRETER",
> just to prove that a COBOL interpreter was possible :-)
>
> notice the "emoticon" at the end of my original post. I was trying to
> convey knowledge of the misinterpretatio
On 13/12/2015 2:01 p.m., Jules Richardson wrote:
I have four 1541's now, two of which seem to init OK, and two of which
sit there with the drive spindle constantly spinning and the access
LEDs lit, the latter behavior which I believe indicates a multitude of
possible microcontroller-related fau
When I post from home, I usually have a sig that refers to top posting fouling
the order in which people normally read text. Regarding Android, I was talking
about a specific mail client that makes it easy to bottom-post.
On December 10, 2015 4:44:09 AM PST, Rod Smallwood
wrote:
>Er nope it j
On Sat, Dec 12, 2015, Jon Elson wrote (in the big top posting thread):
> On 12/12/2015 07:22 AM, Mike wrote:
> >The one question I do have for the older gentlemen on here is what in the
> >world did the computers without a screen to look at do? Now I know about
> >the tape, cassette tape's and even
On Dec 12, 2015 8:04 PM, "Bob Vines" wrote:
>
> Since I've fallen _way_ behind in reading my email (I'm reading July
2015's
> messages now), I've just recently read a thread where removing the
> batteries from VAX 4000-xxx systems was discussed and recommended.
>
> Since I didn't get _any_ documen
Since I've fallen _way_ behind in reading my email (I'm reading July 2015's
messages now), I've just recently read a thread where removing the
batteries from VAX 4000-xxx systems was discussed and recommended.
Since I didn't get _any_ documentation when I rescued my VAX 4000-200
system, which modu
On 12 December 2015 at 22:13, Eric Christopherson
wrote:
> I'm reading about those terminals and find it just fascinating how they
> used acoustic delay line memory to remember the pixels. But I have lots
> of questions:
>
> 1. Did the cables connecting the 2260s to the display controller
> actual
The IBM 2848, the control unit for the 2260 terminals, contained
mercury (!) delay line for the video memory. There may have been some
compensation for the transmission to the terminal, but I have have not
seen the technical details - I think it was not a concern, probably.
Line loss is really not
From: cctalk on behalf of Eric Christopherson
Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2015 7:13 PM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: IBM 2260 acoustic delay line
On Sat, Dec 12, 2015, Jon Elson wrote (in the big top posting thread):
>
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