Hi all --
I acquired a Symbolics 3640 today and it came equipped with two "large"
capacity Maxtor MFM drives (an XT-1140 and an XT-2190). The 1140 spins
up fine and we were able to image it using Dave Gesswein's MFM emulator
(yay).
The 2190 does not, and it fails in precisely the same way I
There is a plastic bumper in the head/disk assembly that turns to goo.
When the head retracts it hits the bumper and gets stuck in the goo. The goo
will eventually win. The head will no longer load. I can't say For sure this is
your disk problem but it was a verry common Maxtor failure.
Joe
> O
On 10/23/15 1:19 AM, Joseph Lang wrote:
There is a plastic bumper in the head/disk assembly that turns to goo.
When the head retracts it hits the bumper and gets stuck in the goo. The goo
will eventually win. The head will no longer load. I can't say For sure this is
your disk problem but it wa
>
> > And if you are going to learn an FPGA development language look at
> > SystemVerilog/Verilog, OpenCL, or VHDL. Certainly not AHDL. It was bad
> > even when it was new. It does not get better with age.
>
> I'll go back to schematic entry before I touch them.
> They FUCK!
Please keep profani
If the bumper is there it will be on the side wall of the HDA where the head
actuator would touch when retracted.
If the heads move freely you have a driver failure. the scream is the stepper
motor trying to move with only one phase working. (Also a common drive failure.)
Joe
> On Oct 23, 2015
Sorry I didn't notice you said voice coil. The stepper comment is moot.
Joe
> On Oct 23, 2015, at 4:26 AM, Josh Dersch wrote:
>
>> On 10/23/15 1:19 AM, Joseph Lang wrote:
>> There is a plastic bumper in the head/disk assembly that turns to goo.
>> When the head retracts it hits the bumper and ge
Please bear in mind that a number of these boards don't have an ethernet
connector. I bought the DE-1 and it's a great board apart from that, but
ageing as suggested. However, the board you buy must depend on how close a
fit you need to the bitstreams available or how competent you think you
are/mi
> -Original Message-
> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Brad
> Sent: 23 October 2015 01:57
> To: 'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts'
>
> Subject: Model 28 Teletype on ebay
>
> Hey guys,
>
>
>
> Further to our conversation - I was looking a
Has anyone heard from Terry Gulczynski (http://stack180.com/) since
October 12? I've been waiting for him to tell me it's okay to send him a
P112 kit for assembly and testing. Now I'm worrying that something may
have happened to him. He lives in Daytona Beach, Florida.
--
David Griffith
On Thu, 22 Oct 2015, Oscar Vermeulen wrote:
Hi,
Oscar is already working on another very promising product.
[..]He will
also pay a visit to my "museum" to take a few measurements.
Sorry, can't say more
I'll leave that up to Oscar. Perhaps he
want to stay "below the radar" until that project
But a 11/70 replica needs two physical 'cosmetic elements': proper
switches, and the white bezel/frame. The switches *seem* to be feasible
to produce cheaply (I will know in a month with PDP-8/I switches...). The
white bezel though brings me into unknown territory. 3D CAD (based on
Museum Measu
On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 10:26 PM, Alexandre Souza
wrote:
>>> But a 11/70 replica needs two physical 'cosmetic elements': proper
>>> switches, and the white bezel/frame. The switches *seem* to be feasible to
>>> produce cheaply (I will know in a month with PDP-8/I switches...). The white
>>> bezel
Well that is sort of right.
I was working for digital at the time and therefore
I have a slightly different perspective.
Internet has its roots in three places the US universities, Research
Establishments and the US military.
ARPAnet came sometime before Internet. It was a packet switching net
On 2015-10-23 02:54, Murray McCullough wrote:
43 years ago around this time the Internet we use to communicate with
was probably made possible because of TCP/IP, or Transmission Control
Protocol/Internet Protocol created at Stanford University. Today 3
billion people are on the net but really mad
On Fri, 23 Oct 2015, d...@661.org wrote:
Has anyone heard from Terry Gulczynski (http://stack180.com/) since October
12? I've been waiting for him to tell me it's okay to send him a P112 kit
for assembly and testing. Now I'm worrying that something may have happened
to him. He lives in Dayt
On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 1:37 AM, Mike Ross wrote:
> Well done. Have you looked at 3D printing? Not fast, not especially
> cheap, but potentially the least difficult developmentally. And once
> it's set up you can just let her rip and churn them out.
>
>
A few comments on 3D printing for projects
Hello,
I have been servicing an HP 85A and an HP 85B desktop computer (printer belts,
tape drive capstan). While the key caps of the "A" model are plugged into
yellow plungers (according to the service manual the manufacturer is
"STACKPOLE") the "B" came with white plungers ("Hi TEK" according
> From: Johnny Billquist
> the switch to TCP/IP only happened in 1982-1983. So while the
> "internet" (well, ARPANET actually) existed before then, it was not
> TCP/IP based.
The conversion of the _ARPANET_ from NCP to TCP/IP happened on 1 January,
1983. However, 'the Internet' (i
> From: Alexandre Souza
> Easily done if I had the original part on hand
We have plenty of the original bezels, from which it would be easy to cast molds
(the same part is used on the 11/45 and 11/70, unlike the rest of the front
console).
The real issue in any front panel recreation is
I think that the switches can be found, but they might be expensive. I have
a few that I used on recent project.
What I found hard was obtaining centre off switches as it appear from this
picture:-
http://www.vintage-computer.com/vcforum/showthread.php?46651-hi-PDP-11-45-fo
und-at-Attic-What-is-t
Dave wrote...
--
I think that the switches can be found, but they might be expensive.
--
But as Noel wrote... the problem isn't the CK switches as far as the "model
number" on them goes. They can be found pretty easy. The problem is that CK
switches used in these systems were custom made wi
> -Original Message-
> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Jay West
> Sent: 23 October 2015 14:19
> To: 'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts'
>
> Subject: RE: KIM Uno /PiDP-11 plans...
>
> Dave wrote...
> --
> I think that the switches can be
On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 9:19 AM, Jay West wrote:
> Dave wrote...
> --
> I think that the switches can be found, but they might be expensive.
Any of these C&K-type switches are likely to sell for $4-$6 each as
new (I've gotten fistfuls of similar ones at Hamfests for $0.75 or
less, but it's ve
On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 7:49 AM, Noel Chiappa wrote:
> We have plenty of the original bezels, from which it would be easy to cast
> molds
> (the same part is used on the 11/45 and 11/70, unlike the rest of the front
> console).
Casting is one option. Another is CNC out of dense PVC foam.
> The
>> http://retrocmp.com/projects/pdp-11-70-panel-on-blinkenbone/243-simulated-pdp-11-70-panel-on-simh
That's a work of art, together with the PDP-10 he did. I saw them running on a
nice touch screen at VCF Berlin, and I wondered whether all this physical
replication stuff makes sense when that's
> From: Dave Wade
> What I found hard was obtaining centre off switches as it appear from
> this picture ... that PDP-11 Switches may be flipped up or down, or is
> that not true?
No, they are all 'standard' (except for the mounting) SPST switches; most
(e.g. the address/data bits
Hi Guys
We seem to have a bit of a rush on to do reproductions of
mainly digital front panels, bezels and switches.
Before we all run round and go through the same learning curve perhaps
we can pool our knowledge and
and allocate getting different parts sourced/made to different p
Rod;
It's not just the dec folks. I have a DG box that I'd REALLY like to get a new
(plexiglass, but thinner and more flexible) panel done for. I'd imagine it's
silkscreening
And I know of at least one other DG person looking for the same...
J
On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 5:26 AM, Alexandre Souza
wrote:
>>> But a 11/70 replica needs two physical 'cosmetic elements': proper
>>> switches, and the white bezel/frame.
>>> The switches *seem* to be feasible to
>>> produce cheaply (I will know in a month with PDP-8/I switches...).
I had a sample
> Alas, it's DPDT, not SPST.
Ooops; the ones in the PDP-11 front panels (/05, /45, /70 and almost
certainly the /40 too) are SPDT, not SPST (typing too fast, in my excitement
that these have finally been found :-).
I looked at the data sheet for the ones you found, and it's actually a sheet
On 2015-10-23 13:20, Noel Chiappa wrote:
> From: Johnny Billquist
> the switch to TCP/IP only happened in 1982-1983. So while the
> "internet" (well, ARPANET actually) existed before then, it was not
> TCP/IP based.
The conversion of the _ARPANET_ from NCP to TCP/IP happened
On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 11:17 AM, Noel Chiappa wrote:
> > Alas, it's DPDT, not SPST.
>
> Ooops; the ones in the PDP-11 front panels (/05, /45, /70 and almost
> certainly the /40 too) are SPDT, not SPST
Yes. The footprint for the existing front panel PCBs are SPDT.
> I looked at the data she
On 2015-10-23 14:39, Dave G4UGM wrote:
I think that the switches can be found, but they might be expensive. I have
a few that I used on recent project.
What I found hard was obtaining centre off switches as it appear from this
picture:-
http://www.vintage-computer.com/vcforum/showthread.php?4665
Hello Jay
OK as a start please send the following:
1 A photo taken looking square on in the middle of the panel.
2. In the unlikely event that the panel can be simply removed
then a scan is better (no spherical distortion)
(If your scanner is too small
> It's just a matter of working out what the part number would be!
OK, I've cracked the part number code. The things we are looking for are:
7101J50 CxE
7108J50 CxE
where x is a letter selecting the contact material (about 10 options,
including gold, silver, gold-over-silver,
On 10/23/15 12:04 AM, Josh Dersch wrote:
The 2190 does not, and it fails in precisely the same way I've personally seen
three or four other Maxtor drives of the same era fail: It spins up fine, but
when it goes to load the heads, it sounds
like the voice coil positioner for the heads is "screa
On 10/23/15 1:33 AM, Joseph Lang wrote:
the scream is the stepper motor trying to move with only one phase working.
(Also a common drive failure.)
Maxtor drives have a very distinctive (and loud) recal sound.
On 10/23/2015 09:57 AM, Noel Chiappa wrote:
I tried looking through the catalog at that site, to see if I could find the
SPST version, but no luck. (Although maybe I'm just a klutz about that site -
it wasn't easy for me to use.) Maybe your parts-search-fu is better than mine?
You might try
>
> > The 2190 does not, and it fails in precisely the same way I've personally
> > seen three or four
> > other Maxtor drives of the same era fail: It spins up fine, but when it
> > goes to load the heads,
> > it sounds like the voice coil positioner for the heads is "screaming" -- it
> > emi
On Thu, 22 Oct 2015, Brad wrote:
> Wasn't sure if it was two units? The first couple of pics look different.
> Anyway, if I understood correctly, it was possible (and possibly done in the
> 1970s by hobbyists) to convert one of these baudot teletypes to ASCII and
I have two model 28s: an RO and
On Thu, 22 Oct 2015, Murray McCullough wrote:
43 years ago around this time the Internet we use to communicate with
was probably made possible because of TCP/IP, or Transmission Control
Protocol/Internet Protocol created at Stanford University.
TCP/IP would be 33, not 43 years ago.
The internet
> From: Rod Smallwood
> perhaps we can pool our knowledge and and allocate getting different
> parts sourced/made to different people.
Makes sense to me.
> 2. Lever keys (pdp8 type and PDP11 type )
For the PDP-11, there are three kinds of plastic toggle/actuator: one like the
on
> From: Johnny Billquist
> not going to try and contradict what you wrote.
Right, I wasn't meaning to imply what you said was incorrect, just giving a
little more detail on what was a murky and complicated process.
> I suspect it's because people now assume that "Internet" was always
> On Oct 23, 2015, at 12:37 PM, Fred Cisin wrote:
>
> ...
>> Today 3 billion people are on the net
>
> Is that all? I've always thought of writing an SF story involving extensive
> extra-terrestial presence on the net.
Neat idea. Go for it!
>> but really made it possible for this extravaga
On 10/23/2015 09:10 AM, Al Kossow wrote:
Maxtor drives have a very distinctive (and loud) recal sound.
And some Maxtor drives are Miniscribes. I have one (I think it's an
ESDI, IIRC) that has a beautiful Miniscribe HDA casting, with a Maxtor
label wrapped around it.
Ah, the good old days
> OK, I've cracked the part number code. The things we are looking for are:
> 7101J50 CxE
> 7108J50 CxE
> ...
> the C+K Web site showed two places (Electro-Sonic and
> Online-Components) stocking 7101J50 CQE2's .. investigating further now.
OK, so I've ordered 10 7101J5
On 10/23/2015 09:37 AM, Fred Cisin wrote:
TCP/IP would be 33, not 43 years ago. The internet was certainly not
"made possible" by TCP/IP. It was inevitable that eventually there
would be movementS towards standardization of protocols on the
arpanet. They could have done much worse than TCP/IP!
never heard of it -Ed#
In a message dated 10/23/2015 10:08:44 A.M. US Mountain Standard Tim,
paulkon...@comcast.net writes:
How many people consider the Micral to be of that level of significance?
On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 1:22 PM, Noel Chiappa wrote:
> > OK, I've cracked the part number code. The things we are looking for
> are:
> > 7101J50 CxE
> > 7108J50 CxE
> > ...
> > the C+K Web site showed two places (Electro-Sonic and
> > Online-Components) stocking 7101J5
Hi Noel
Your ps comments are very perceptive.
I have no doubt that people out there are gathering TTL even as we speak.
The one I always call to mind is the guys who built themselves flight
simulators
out of genuine parts.
I've seen replica cars of all kinds.
Boats yes
Steam Engin
> From: Fred Cisin
> It was inevitable that eventually there would be movementS towards
> standardization of protocols on the arpanet.
Actually, TCP/IP grew out of the desire to interconnect two very different
kinds of network - the ARPANET, and something called the Packet Radio Netw
Nope never heard of it either
Rod
On 23/10/15 18:29, couryho...@aol.com wrote:
never heard of it -Ed#
In a message dated 10/23/2015 10:08:44 A.M. US Mountain Standard Tim,
paulkon...@comcast.net writes:
How many people consider the Micral to be of that level of significance?
but! now that we have heard of it
SMECC museum wants one!
Ed#
In a message dated 10/23/2015 10:43:50 A.M. US Mountain Standard Tim,
rodsmallwoo...@btinternet.com writes:
Nope never heard of it either
Rod
On 23/10/15 18:29, couryho...@aol.com wrote:
> never heard of it - Ed
On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 1:43 PM, Noel Chiappa wrote:
> > From: Chuck Guzis
>
> > I do miss the web-less Internet in some respects. People were more
> > polite back then--at least in their written communication.
>
> I snorted and started coughing when I read that! :-) Usenet had massive
Neither had I, but that doesn't mean it wasn't significant.
http://www.old-computers.com/museum/computer.asp?c=352
suggests
"Supposedly it was the first personal computer programmed by Philippe Kahn,
founder of Borland."
And this is supported by a couple of reports, e.g.
http://www.pcworld.com
On 10/23/2015 10:43 AM, Noel Chiappa wrote:
I snorted and started coughing when I read that! :-) Usenet had massive flame
wars long before the Web existed!
Yes, there were flame wars--but nothing that sank to the level of
depravity of flame wars on the web.
...and it could be just that I hu
On Fri, 23 Oct 2015, Chuck Guzis wrote:
Yeah, I had quite a number of problems with the original post also.
We each see a different part of the elephant. Sometimes I think that
Murray is/was at the other end than I am/was.
I really like Murray, and what he says, but his views of what was
sig
Fred Cisin wrote:
> While I won't try to claim that the FIRST or SECOND
> emails were flames, I'm inclined to think that they
> started early. 'course in our day, we were much more
> polite in how we flamed
Emacs? You _MUST_ be kidding.
On 10/23/2015 11:33 AM, rod wrote:
Hi Noel
Your ps comments are very perceptive.
I have no doubt that people out there are gathering TTL even as we speak.
Hides the 74LSxx and solder ... pulls out some knitting.
If they still had edge connectors, 74LS382's and the old DOS pcb
soft
> On Oct 23, 2015, at 2:48 PM, ben wrote:
>
> ...
> It does seem mechanical stuff is dieing art.
I don't know about that. It's a different crows than the one that hangs out
here, for the most part. But mechanical innovation is alive and well (consider
Boberg for example). And there's 3d pr
I should also add if people are talking about reproducing DEC switch
handles (the plastic covers)... I would love to get spares for my DG gear so
whatever process works for the dec ones may be helpful there.
J
On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 3:15 PM, Jay West wrote:
> I should also add if people are talking about reproducing DEC switch
> handles (the plastic covers)... I would love to get spares for my DG gear so
> whatever process works for the dec ones may be helpful there.
Do the DG handles have the sam
On 10/23/15 12:27, Ethan Dicks wrote:
> Do the DG handles have the same problems as DEC switch handles?
> (fragile pivots that break off)
Only the 16-bit Eclipse family, and they're really not that fragile --
you sort of have to work to break them.
--
Christian Kennedy, Ph.D.
ch...@mainecoon.
On the Vintage Computer Forums some one has produced replacement keys for his
TV Typewriter using rubber moulds and casting resin. It looks shiny and dyes
are available...
... but you might have to machine the hole in the end for the shaft to go into..
Dave
> -Original Message-
> From
On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 9:08 AM, Al Kossow wrote:
> On 10/23/15 12:04 AM, Josh Dersch wrote:
>
> The 2190 does not, and it fails in precisely the same way I've personally
>> seen three or four other Maxtor drives of the same era fail: It spins up
>> fine, but when it goes to load the heads, it so
On 10/23/2015 1:29 PM, Christian Kennedy wrote:
On 10/23/15 12:27, Ethan Dicks wrote:
Do the DG handles have the same problems as DEC switch handles?
(fragile pivots that break off)
Only the 16-bit Eclipse family, and they're really not that fragile --
you sort of have to work to break them
- Ursprüngliche Message -
> Von: Chuck Guzis
> An: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
> CC:
> Gesendet: 18:16 Freitag, 23.Oktober 2015
> Betreff: Re: Common Maxtor MFM drive failure mode -- any ideas?
>
> On 10/23/2015 09:10 AM, Al Kossow wrote:
>
>
>> Maxtor drives
Ethan wrote...
> Do the DG handles have the same problems as DEC switch handles?
> (fragile pivots that break off)
To which Christian replied...
Only the 16-bit Eclipse family, and they're really not that fragile -- you sort
of have to work to break them.
Ethan - Yes. They have the exa
On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 3:42 PM, ben wrote:
> Bring in the Gorillas. :)
> Other than bootstrapping, switches tend to sit idle.
Yeah... For my switchless 11/70 PCB, I'm happy to buy $5 switches, but
if I can't find them that cheaply, I'm not worried about a replacement
method of attachment that mi
From: Ethan Dicks: Friday, October 23, 2015 12:27 PM
On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 3:15 PM, Jay West wrote:
I should also add if people are talking about reproducing DEC switch
handles (the plastic covers)... I would love to get spares for my DG gear so
whatever process works for the dec ones may
On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 3:55 PM, Jay West wrote:
> Ethan wrote...
>> Do the DG handles have the same problems as DEC switch handles?
>> (fragile pivots that break off)
>
> Ethan - Yes. They have the exact same "pins" on each side of the plastic that
> break off pretty easily
Right/
> I believe
Ben wrote...
Bring in the Gorillas. :)
Other than bootstrapping, switches tend to sit idle.
Guess it's all what you're doing. I use the front panels *A LOT* on all my
machines. A completely missing switchcover, or a broken switch, would be far
more than just an inconvenience to me at
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On 10/23/15 12:55, Jay West wrote:
> I disagree with Christian on one point... those side pins are
> *every bit* as fragile as the dec ones.
Maybe it's an aging thing? In the space of a decade with S/130s,
S/200s, S/230s, C330s and an honest-to-%
Ethan wrote...
Looking at your picture, I'd say that is not identical to any DEC switch handle
I know of.
Yeah, I couldn't remember what system it was... but when I first took apart a
DG front panel and looked at the plastic switch covers, I *KNOW* I remember
that I had worked on som
On 10/23/15 13:05, Jay West wrote:
> Yeah, I couldn't remember what system it was... but when I first took
> apart a DG front panel and looked at the plastic switch covers, I
> *KNOW* I remember that I had worked on some other brand of machine
> that had identical (or at least very close) switch
Vince wrote...
-
In addition, the pivot heads seem to have been spread with some sort of heat
process, so it is virtually impossible to remove the handle without breaking
off the pivots.
-
I should point out... so far I've had about six or eight switch covers on
various eclipse machines
On Fri, 23 Oct 2015, Bill Sudbrink wrote:
Fred Cisin wrote:
While I won't try to claim that the FIRST or SECOND
emails were flames, I'm inclined to think that they
started early. 'course in our day, we were much more
polite in how we flamed
Emacs? You _MUST_ be kidding.
WordStar. Non-doc
From: Jay West: Friday, October 23, 2015 1:14 PM
Vince wrote...
-
In addition, the pivot heads seem to have been spread with some sort of heat
process, so it is virtually impossible to remove the handle without breaking
off the pivots.
-
I should point out... so far I've had about six
On Fri, 23 Oct 2015, Bill Sudbrink wrote:
> Fred Cisin wrote:
>>
>> While I won't try to claim that the FIRST or SECOND
>> emails were flames, I'm inclined to think that they
>> started early. 'course in our day, we were much more
>> polite in how we flamed
>
>
> Emacs? You _MUST_ be kidding.
I'
started early. 'course in our day, we were much more
polite in how we flamed
Emacs? You _MUST_ be kidding.
On Fri, 23 Oct 2015, geneb wrote:
WordStar. Non-document mode.
Did you really think that that was better than Electric Pencil?
My very first inspiration for writing XenoCopy was ads
Don't get me wrong... Emacs isn't a bad OS... Too bad there isn't a decent text
editor for it.
Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone
Original message
From: Ethan Dicks
Date: 10/23/2015 4:29 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Po
On 10/23/2015 01:57 PM, Paul Koning wrote:
On Oct 23, 2015, at 2:48 PM, ben wrote:
...
It does seem mechanical stuff is dieing art.
I don't know about that.
Yes, there is an open-source project that provides a CNC
machine control for mill, lathes, hexapods and robots. That
is LinuxCNC. It s
On Fri, 23 Oct 2015, Fred Cisin wrote:
started early. 'course in our day, we were much more
polite in how we flamed
Emacs? You _MUST_ be kidding.
On Fri, 23 Oct 2015, geneb wrote:
WordStar. Non-document mode.
Did you really think that that was better than Electric Pencil?
I'm going to s
On Fri, 23 Oct 2015, Jon Elson wrote:
On 10/23/2015 01:57 PM, Paul Koning wrote:
On Oct 23, 2015, at 2:48 PM, ben wrote:
...
It does seem mechanical stuff is dieing art.
I don't know about that.
Yes, there is an open-source project that provides a CNC machine control for
mill, lathes, hexap
On 10/23/15 12:39 PM, Josh Dersch wrote:
I don't
suppose anyone has a service manual for these things so I know what stuff
to probe? (Nothing on Bitsavers and a casual Google search turns up
nothing of interest.)
Service manuals/schematics/ASIC info is EXTREMELY difficult to get for anything
> From: Pierre Gebhardt
> Haha, I guess you're alluding to the massive scam with the bricks,
> Miniscribe did back them to pretend stocks full of disk drives...
Never heard the story. Can someone oblige?
> BTW, are there any other similar stories from the disk drive buisiness
> Early internet systems--I'm not sure where to draw the line between
> Usenet, ARPANet and Internet [...]
I would say that the Internet was the collection of hosts/networks
supporting (and assuming) more-or-less[%] real-time host-to-host
connectivity.
[%] RFC 1149, anyone? :-)
Thus, a host on d
Hi Guys
Well my missive on reproductions seems to have generated some interest.
There seems to be a lot of will to keep the old systems going and to
reproduce parts for them
and indeed build complete systems from new parts.
The main areas of interest are front panels (Not just DEC), key switch
Don't get me wrong... Emacs isn't a bad OS... Too bad there isn't a decent text
editor for it.
Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone
Ah, but nowadays who cares about
"Eight Megabytes and Continual Swapping"
(well, the first part anyhow) when your phone has 16GB
Andy
On 10/23/2015 02:49 PM, Noel Chiappa wrote:
From: Pierre Gebhardt
Haha, I guess you're alluding to the massive scam with the bricks,
Miniscribe did back them to pretend stocks full of disk drives...
Never heard the story. Can someone oblige?
BTW, are there any other similar stories from th
On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 10:22:42PM +, ANDY HOLT wrote:
>
> Don't get me wrong... Emacs isn't a bad OS... Too bad there isn't a decent
> text editor for it.
>
>
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone
>
>
> Ah, but nowadays who cares about
> "Eight Megabytes and Continua
> -Original Message-
> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Diane
> Bruce
> Sent: 24 October 2015 00:01
> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
>
> Subject: Re: The Internet & our hobby
>
> On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 10:22:42PM +, ANDY HOLT wro
On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 11:22 AM, rod wrote:
> Hi Guys
>
> Well my missive on reproductions seems to have generated some interest.
> There seems to be a lot of will to keep the old systems going and to
> reproduce parts for them
> and indeed build complete systems from new parts.
>
> The main area
On 24/10/2015 00:00, Diane Bruce wrote:
I have fond memories of our Unix sys admin refusing to install a bloated
editor.
vi on a PDP-11/45 (v7 Unix)
Ah yes, I remember similar issues. If you try to run vi (and some other
things) under 7th Edition set up for a machine like the 11/23, it
resp
On 10/23/2015 04:32 PM, geneb wrote:
On Fri, 23 Oct 2015, Jon Elson wrote:
I sell some hardware for motion control based on this
software, and have sold over 300 controller-interfaces.
A popular one seems to be using MachineKit on a Beagle
Bone Black
Yes, my latest product is the CRA
Mike said:
> 4. IBM metal panel consoles. I have a couple of these - System/370
> models 145 and 155 - which are complete but a bit ropy and rusty and
> damaged in parts; see: http://www.corestore.org/370148-1.jpg - They're
> just sheet steel painted black with the legend silkscreened (I
> presume)
Is anyone interested in a Vic 20, Atari 800XL, or an Amiga? The Amiga
appears to be missing a couple of things. No AC adapters for any of them.
Complete key caps, no severe yellowing, no way to test. The Amiga resembles
this one: http://www.oldcomputers.net/pics/amiga500.jpg
Cindy
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On 10/22/2015 7:54 PM, Murray McCullough wrote:
> 43 years ago around this time the Internet we use to communicate with
> was probably made possible because of TCP/IP, or Transmission Control
> Protocol/Internet Protocol created at Stanford University. Today 3
> billion people are on the net but re
On 10/23/2015 3:29 PM, Ethan Dicks wrote:
> On Fri, 23 Oct 2015, Bill Sudbrink wrote:
>
> I'd expect wide-eyed stares from a vi user... ;-)
>
>
> Q: What goes "beep beep beep"?
>
> A: A Little Nash Rambler... and a vi novice.
>
> -ethan
>
ROTFL.
JRJ
On 10/23/2015 6:43 PM, Mike Ross wrote:
> 1. A replacement perspex for a pdp-12; damaged in shipping :-(
If you mean the plexiglass for the console, I might be able to help with
that. I thought at one point I was going to get an entire PDP-12 from
U. Wisconsin Comm. Arts, but when I showed up on
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