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> Dicks
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> Subject: Re: Problem with RF73 DSSI disk
>
> On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 2:01 AM, Holm Tiffe wrote
Thanks, Sean. I'll have to inquire as to whether they offer hard gold
over nickel for edge connectors. I know of a bunch of relatively
low-cost PCB fabs, but they generally either don't offer hard gold, or
only on large runs, or only for really big bucks. The actual cost of
the gold on a hard gold
> -Original Message-
> From: Dave G4UGM [mailto:dave.g4...@gmail.com]
> Sent: 04 September 2015 09:16
> To: 'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts'
>
> Subject: RE: Problem with RF73 DSSI disk
>
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@class
Holm Tiffe wrote:
>
> Hmm.. I see, I must be the only one that has ever seen a DSSI disk...
>
I have a MicroVAX 4000/100A with two DSSI disks that slowly died one after the
other, not long after I got it. From the errors they logged and the clunking
and rattling noises they started making, it see
On Thu, 3 Sep 2015, Jay West wrote:
Marc wrote
HP 1000. Not only the standard 24 pin ROMs but the small 14 or 16 pin
bootloader ROMs that Jay showed me at VCF. What would be a good ROM
programmer that could read and write these of older HP equipment ROMs?
---
The Data I/O 29B works
> On Sep 3, 2015, at 3:36 PM, Sean Caron wrote:
>
> My dad shops out prototype PCB manufacturing to a firm called Omnitrace (
> http://www.pcb4u.com). He sends them layouts and they send back bare boards
> which he stuffs in the lab ... He says the price is the best he's found,
> there's no mini
On making PC boards, we had a shop mix the top and bottom
layers. They tried to tell us it didn't matter but our boards
had an edge connector, with different fingers on each side.
It was expensive high temperature PC board as well.
Dwight
Yup. I have done the same kind of thing with GALs (which offer the
convenience of re-programming, though not the longevity of a PAL.)
Did this as a backup for the Signetics chips on a Mark 8.
You can see them in this Flickr stream - I had both "normal" and open
collector variants, and designed b
On 9/3/2015 11:50 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote:
> On 09/03/2015 08:49 PM, dwight wrote:
>> A pal could have worked as well. Dwight
>
> A GAL should also be useful--and maybe a bit more flexible. To emulate
> the OC outputs, one can simply manipulate the output enable so that a
> '1' output is High-Z an
On Wed, 2 Sep 2015, Holm Tiffe wrote:
> Since the capacity of 2x RF31 and 1x RF71 disks is a little bit low
> for VMS with some compilersi (~400MB every disk), I've looked for a bigger
> disk, at least for the sytem itself. (I've already relocated the pagefile
> to the 2nd disk).
> Ok, there are R
On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 11:04 AM, Jay Jaeger wrote:
> BTW, I sent my PCBs out to Gold Phoenix PCB - http://www.goldphoenixpcb.com/
I have also used Gold Phoenix PCB with good results (when I need a
dozen or more small boards - they do runs of 155 sq in down to about
1"x2". You get as many boards
A building next door to one of my offices was a datacenter/colo facility. It
has sat vacant for quite a few years, and the new owner contacted me
yesterday about some unrelated items. I asked about the raised floor and she
said "all available, dirt cheap, come over and look".
Sometime next week
I just acquired a KA640 VAX in a BA215 (thanks Josh) which has one
working RF30 and one dead RF30 with failure code 300B(X). I don't have
copies of any manuals which list the error codes. I just figure at
this point that the drive is dead and there is nothing that can be
done to try to fix it.
The
Saw this in AFC
Another water damaged collection heading to the landfill
--
Subject: Houston (and everywhere else), we have ... an opportunity
From: hlctmi...@gmail.com
Injection-Date: Thu, 03 Sep 2015 15:37:06 +
My name is John Keys, and I incorporated the Houston Computer Museum in May=
On 9/3/15 9:58 PM, Paul Anderson wrote:
I'm looking into a road trip from Champaign to Maine via Indy, Detroit,
Windsor, Niagra Falls, Buffalo or 1000 Islands, Syracuse to Boston area,
and up to Maine. Not sure about the return Route.
I have talked to a few list members about dropping off/pic
On 2015-09-04 08:01, Holm Tiffe wrote:
Hmm.. I see, I must be the only one that has ever seen a DSSI disk...
Thanks to all that haven't answered.
You do understand that noone is *required* to help, do you? This message
really sends the wrong impression, and rubs me the wrong way...
People
Yes. ALL the ducks.
Several of us have been bounced at the border for trying to bring in
larger machines. Basically, if it is something that is not a laptop or
PeeCee or normal consumer electronics, expect trouble. It is not 1998
anymore.
--
Will
On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 12:49 PM, Al Kossow wrote
On 2015-09-04 18:19, Glen Slick wrote:
I just acquired a KA640 VAX in a BA215 (thanks Josh) which has one
working RF30 and one dead RF30 with failure code 300B(X). I don't have
copies of any manuals which list the error codes. I just figure at
this point that the drive is dead and there is nothin
As always, my hosting company will gladly provide hosting services to any
classic computing related website at no charge.
I'll send him an email offering same. I don't want to offer free web
development though, someone else can step up with that work if they wish :)
the SMECC museum is a canadate if ouronmnibus 8 still runs. have
not powered it up in 20 years.
In a message dated 9/4/2015 1:37:34 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
space...@gmail.com writes:
On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 10:00 AM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
>
>> The working 150MB RF30 is too small for a useful VMS system although
>> it would be a decent size if I set up the system as a PDP-11 with an
>> M7554-PB KDJ11-SB CPU instead of the VAX KA640.
>
> Be aware that no PDP-11 system knows abo
- Original Message -
From: "Johnny Billquist"
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 12:52 PM
On 2015-09-04 08:01, Holm Tiffe wrote:
Hmm.. I see, I must be the only one that has
ever seen a DSSI disk...
Thanks to all that haven't answered.
You do understand that noone is *required* to
I still can't get my RL8A (M8433 RL01/02 disk controller card) working again
in my 8/A system. It won't boot from the RL02 any more.
In my backplane I found it to be mechanically sensitive (AJRLAC diskless
controller test would show errors always involving bits 4-7 being
unexpectedly 0's), and
While I've not yet completely forgiven Mr. Keys for swiping a van load of
VAX systems (including a bunch of MicroVAX 3100, 4000/VLC, etc) over a
decade ago when I had offered him some wide format printers and large
monitors, I'm willing to talk to him and see what can be done if others
are also
On Fri, 4 Sep 2015, William Donzelli wrote:
Yes. ALL the ducks.
Several of us have been bounced at the border for trying to bring in
larger machines. Basically, if it is something that is not a laptop or
PeeCee or normal consumer electronics, expect trouble. It is not 1998
anymore.
Do "Mad
Johnny Billquist wrote:
> On 2015-09-04 08:01, Holm Tiffe wrote:
>
> >Hmm.. I see, I must be the only one that has ever seen a DSSI disk...
> >
> >Thanks to all that haven't answered.
>
> You do understand that noone is *required* to help, do you? This message
> really sends the wrong impressio
Mike Stein wrote:
> - Original Message -
> From: "Johnny Billquist"
> Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 12:52 PM
>
>
> >On 2015-09-04 08:01, Holm Tiffe wrote:
> >
> >>Hmm.. I see, I must be the only one that has
> >>ever seen a DSSI disk...
> >>
> >>Thanks to all that haven't answered.
" I'm 70 years old, and if I can't make a go of this, all that equipment
will get recycled or hauled off for scrap or dumped in a landfill. And all
of that documentation will go with it."
A web page is not the solution to his problem. A new home for his
collection is.
Lee C.
On Fri, Sep 4, 2015
> Do "Made in USA" markings still suffice when transporting from Canada to the
> USA?
Not for things more complicated than typical consumer electronics.
--
Will
I am sorry but I think he is living in airy fairy land if he thinks folks
will donate to a 70 year old who is now threatening to chuck stuff away and
re-cycle it rather than give others the chance to "make a go" of it with no
clear definition of how the money is to be spent.
It seems to happen
Last year, I made a 10 hour round-trip from Canada to the US to pick up a
Northstar Horizon. Upon returning to Canada with it, I had a long conversation
with Canada Customs about why I would make a 10-hour day-trip to the US to pick
up a “piece of obsolete junk” unless it had some real value, a
> Last year, I made a 10 hour round-trip from Canada to the US to pick up a
> Northstar Horizon. Upon returning to Canada with it, I had a long
> conversation with Canada Customs about why I would make a 10-hour day-trip to
> the US to pick up a “piece of obsolete junk” unless it had some real
Glen Slick wrote:
> I just acquired a KA640 VAX in a BA215 (thanks Josh) which has one
> working RF30 and one dead RF30 with failure code 300B(X). I don't have
> copies of any manuals which list the error codes. I just figure at
> this point that the drive is dead and there is nothing that can be
Johnny Billquist wrote:
> On 2015-09-04 18:19, Glen Slick wrote:
> >I just acquired a KA640 VAX in a BA215 (thanks Josh) which has one
> >working RF30 and one dead RF30 with failure code 300B(X). I don't have
> >copies of any manuals which list the error codes. I just figure at
> >this point that
> It seems to happen all the time with collectables (I must admit I have a
> loft room full, and I don't have anywhere to exhibit) but to me this needs
> PEOPLE and then a PLAN and lastly a Kick Starter project to get it
> exhibitable, if indeed any of it is exhibit able. I can't see any responses
On Fri, 4 Sep 2015, William Donzelli wrote:
It seems to happen all the time with collectables (I must admit I have
a loft room full, and I don't have anywhere to exhibit) but to me this
needs PEOPLE and then a PLAN and lastly a Kick Starter project to get
it exhibitable, if indeed any of it is
I agree; it seems like if he really needed to raise some money, he could
offer even a few of those choice pieces to other collectors ... sounds like
he's got plenty of stuff other collectors would offer good money for, if
it's not completely soaked or corroded out ...
Best,
Sean
On Fri, Sep 4,
Thanks for all the border warnings. That's why I'm trying to keep stuff
small.
Paul
On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 1:46 PM, William Donzelli
wrote:
> > Last year, I made a 10 hour round-trip from Canada to the US to pick up
> a Northstar Horizon. Upon returning to Canada with it, I had a long
> conver
He got a big collection of SDS systems which I helped store the tape
drives and printers for. Al was supposed to get the media, but it never
got to me to get to Al and back.
thanks
Jim
On 9/4/2015 12:54 PM, Tothwolf wrote:
On Fri, 4 Sep 2015, William Donzelli wrote:
It seems to happen all
On Fri, 4 Sep 2015, jwsmobile wrote:
On 9/4/2015 12:54 PM, Tothwolf wrote:
On Fri, 4 Sep 2015, William Donzelli wrote:
It seems to happen all the time with collectables (I must admit I
have a loft room full, and I don't have anywhere to exhibit) but to
me this needs PEOPLE and then a PLAN and
> With the storage situation, does this mean he is in violation of his
> 501(c)(3) requirements?
Probably not, since 501c3 is basically a tax thing. He might be in
violation for not really being "public", however.
> What does this mean for that vanload of gear Keys took out from under me via
> fa
On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 1:46 PM, William Donzelli wrote:
>> Last year, I made a 10 hour round-trip from Canada to the US to pick up a
>> Northstar Horizon. Upon returning to Canada with it, I had a long
>> conversation with Canada Customs about why I would make a 10-hour day-trip
>> to the US t
On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 4:20 PM, Jason T wrote:
> On my big Canadian ccmp retrieval run last December, we were detailed
"Detained," of course. A decent car detailing would have been worth the time.
Dear sirs...
Ok, life does nasty things to us, and seems it is my time. Due to personal
and health problems, I'll have to sell some of my collection. As bad as it
is, I can't really afford keeping much of my stuff. I'll save just the nice
gifts I got from friends and my beloved //e "Woz edition".
On 2015-09-04 20:31, Holm Tiffe wrote:
Mike Stein wrote:
- Original Message -
From: "Johnny Billquist"
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 12:52 PM
On 2015-09-04 08:01, Holm Tiffe wrote:
Hmm.. I see, I must be the only one that has
ever seen a DSSI disk...
Thanks to all that haven't
On 9/4/2015 1:46 PM, William Donzelli wrote:
>> Last year, I made a 10 hour round-trip from Canada to the US to pick up a
>> Northstar Horizon. Upon returning to Canada with it, I had a long
>> conversation with Canada Customs about why I would make a 10-hour day-trip
>> to the US to pick up a
Decided to start with the terminals first. I cleaned up and tested the DG
Dasher D200, and it come out fairly good and all tests indicate it's working
fine. No pictures of that.
The Dasher TP1 is much more of a hard-luck case, and I just finished
cleaning the top of the top chassis. I did not c
Johnny Billquist wrote:
> On 2015-09-04 20:31, Holm Tiffe wrote:
> >Mike Stein wrote:
> >
> >>- Original Message -
> >>From: "Johnny Billquist"
> >>Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 12:52 PM
> >>
> >>
> >>>On 2015-09-04 08:01, Holm Tiffe wrote:
> >>>
> Hmm.. I see, I must be the only o
On 2015-09-05 00:31, Holm Tiffe wrote:
Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2015-09-04 20:31, Holm Tiffe wrote:
Mike Stein wrote:
- Original Message -
From: "Johnny Billquist"
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2015 12:52 PM
On 2015-09-04 08:01, Holm Tiffe wrote:
Hmm.. I see, I must be the only
On 9/4/2015 6:30 PM, Jay West wrote:
The Dasher TP1 is much more of a hard-luck case, and I just finished
cleaning the top of the top chassis. I did not clean the bottom chassis or
stand or insides yet, so you can see a good comparison of the cleaned top
half and the untouched bottom half. 7 pic
On 9/4/2015 5:41 PM, Johnny Billquist
wrote:
On 2015-09-05 00:31, Holm Tiffe wrote:
Let me live the rest of my time like
a child playing with old computers,
that's exactly why we are here;
nothing else matters.
I know that people trying to help,
trust me, I'm doing that in other,
cases
On 9/4/15 3:30 PM, Jay West wrote:
No, there's no retrobrite involved. Just a normal spray on household
cleaner, followed by Magic Eraser and a lot of elbow grease. Yep, Magic
Eraser is a wonderful thing.
I didn't know how the things worked, so I looked it up
http://dailyapple.blogspot.com/2
I took it as a cry of desperation, nor sure what was intended, but that's
how it came across to me...
Dave wade
On Sep 5, 2015 12:03 AM, "j...@cimmeri.com" wrote:
>
>
> On 9/4/2015 5:41 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
>
>> On 2015-09-05 00:31, Holm Tiffe wrote:
>>
>>
>> Let me live the rest of my ti
On 9/4/15 4:10 PM, Al Kossow wrote:
I didn't know how the things worked, so I looked it up
http://dailyapple.blogspot.com/2009/01/apple-367-magic-eraser.html
and here is a US seller for 100 of 'em at $7.50
http://www.ebay.com/itm/261997395134
On 2015-09-04 5:20 PM, Jason T wrote:
read my
email on my phone
I hope everyone saw that and understands what it means.
Borders have changed. Any data you take across them is fair game.
--Toby
Al wrote...
>I didn't know how the things worked, so I looked it up
I should point out that for most things classiccmp I use them on, you have
to scrub REALLY hard, in very small back and forth strokes. When you hear
them squeaking, they are working right. It even gets out things that I could
have
I reconnected the data bus pins, and disconnected all the MA0..11 pins (in
case it's DMAing into memory when it should not be). Nope, same issue. Won't
boot Serial Disk, corrupts the upper six bits of the loader.
Only bus left is the memory data MD0..11, but that can't be shorted because
on t
John wrote
Might I respectfully just quip here,
that different countries have different
culture re what is offensive. [snip]
I think the best policy is to let as
much as possible "slide" here in the
online world.
VERY well put.
About 1% of the time I post a question here, I get sile
On Fri, 4 Sep 2015, Toby Thain wrote:
On 2015-09-04 5:20 PM, Jason T wrote:
read my email on my phone
I hope everyone saw that and understands what it means.
Borders have changed. Any data you take across them is fair game.
Indeed they have. ...and things continue to change:
https://en.wi
On Fri, Sep 04, 2015 at 12:55:25PM -0400, William Donzelli wrote:
> Several of us have been bounced at the border for trying to bring in
> larger machines. Basically, if it is something that is not a laptop or
> PeeCee or normal consumer electronics, expect trouble. It is not 1998
> anymore.
The F
I had fun taking 20 IBM pc's from Montreal to the usa. I ended up setting
up a broker account to ship items in a rented van. It was do this or the
items would be impounded. I had to be escorted by flashing lights custims
police bacj into canada. You can't simply drive through customs without
co
Related road trip info, I am currently in New Mexico and heading up
to Colorado before I swing back to Austin, Texas. I can move a small
trunkload of "stuff" during this swing if anyone wants.
mcl
Reading docs on DEC TU10 for pdp 11 one makes a serial connection, right?
Not sure because I found little about baud, etc.
I did not see any definitive controller card for UNIBUS pdp 11. Maybe I am
missing something..can anyone share experiences?
Bill Degnan
twitter: billdeg
vintagecomputer.net
> On Sep 4, 2015, at 8:14 PM, william degnan wrote:
>
> Reading docs on DEC TU10 for pdp 11 one makes a serial connection, right?
> Not sure because I found little about baud, etc.
??? A TU10 is a formatter for 7 or 9 track magnetic tape. I don't remember any
Baud in that one.
> I did not se
On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 6:14 PM, william degnan wrote:
> Reading docs on DEC TU10 for pdp 11 one makes a serial connection, right?
> Not sure because I found little about baud, etc.
No.
> I did not see any definitive controller card for UNIBUS pdp 11. Maybe I am
> missing something..can anyone s
On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 9:01 PM, Mark Linimon wrote:
> My personal experiences are that big border crossings (e.g. at the terminus
> of U.S. Interstates) are less likely to detain you for questioning. The
> smallest ones are suspicious of anyone who isn't a local and will want
> to find out why yo
The discussions of crossing the US/Canada border have been interesting.
Only once have I crossed with classic computer gear (I took a
SPARCstation 20 to Idaho Falls, Idaho for a list member, while en route
to San Diego from Saskatchewan) and I had no trouble at all at the
border. Then again,
Which ducks did you have in mind?
I did a big Canada trip a few years ago; rented a truck and brought
back a bunch of big disk drives mostly - mostly DEC, RP02, RP04, RP05
etc.
Passed through customs in about 10 mins flat.
"What's in the back?"
"Bunch of ancient computer stuff for my collection
On Sat, Sep 5, 2015 at 11:40 AM, Toby Thain wrote:
> On 2015-09-04 5:20 PM, Jason T wrote:
>>
>> read my
>> email on my phone
>
>
> I hope everyone saw that and understands what it means.
Yep. Strong crypto on everything!
Mike
On 2015-09-04 11:58 PM, Mike Ross wrote:
On Sat, Sep 5, 2015 at 11:40 AM, Toby Thain wrote:
On 2015-09-04 5:20 PM, Jason T wrote:
read my
email on my phone
I hope everyone saw that and understands what it means.
Yep. Strong crypto on everything!
Mike
"What's your phone PIN?"
"Log int
On Fri, Sep 04, 2015 at 11:30:31PM -0400, Ethan Dicks wrote:
> I had that experience going to Ottawa via a small crossing in upstate
> NY.
In fact that is probably the exact one I had the 2hr experience at :-)
mcl
We would be glad to hear from anyone who might have new material
related to the Burroughs B6700.
We're on the hunt for any manuals or software related to the Burroughs
large systems so we can build an emulator for the B6700. This search
includes the B5000, B6000, B7000 families, since there is con
I will have to see. When we acquired the Aldrige collection at SMECC we
pulled off all the really really early material and put the remainder
in storage which should have some of this... we also have the unisys
crossover stuff and when why bought up the Varian minicomputer too. I
one thing we have fine from the 5000 stuff are all these beautiful
cord wood logic things all gold and pretty but most of these got
scrapped for gold along the way.. I do not know what other units used
in but some folks mentioned 5000
I have schematics for some
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