Johnny Billquist wrote:
> On 2015-06-24 02:06, Mark J. Blair wrote:
> >
> >>On Jun 23, 2015, at 09:32 , Holm Tiffe wrote:
> >>
> >>1)
> >>Yes they copied the PDP11 and the VAX but, They made an VAX Chip
> >>that's
> >>compatible to the VAX730...and we all know that the VAX730 ist not an one
I just love this translation:
"*But me, naturally, anybody especially didn't ask.*"
Been there; still am ...
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 2:45 AM, Holm Tiffe wrote:
> Johnny Billquist wrote:
>
> > On 2015-06-24 02:06, Mark J. Blair wrote:
> > >
> > >>On Jun 23, 2015, at 09:32 , Holm Tiffe wrote:
>
Computers ARMY COMPUTERS! early & beastly with Friden What is it? I had
a chance to buy these photos so I did! Be fun to find the people and
talk to them!What ever this thing is I guess I need to devote a page on
it! Ed# _www.smecc.org_ (http://www.smecc.org/)
http://
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 10:14:00PM -0700, jwsmobile wrote:
> The only reference I could find that separated them are to google
> for the printer ribbons. I find a lot of the companies who list
> ribbons don't purge their databases of even the most ridiculously
> old products, and they list models.
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 08:45:13AM +0200, Holm Tiffe wrote:
> I have an Elektronika 60 which is something like an 11/03 clone
> but it isn't a clone. It has a Q-BUS with connecteors like DECs
> original but with metric pin raster. Boards are bigger and the used
> chips and the schematics are totall
you re ink the old ribbon... used to do that with tty ribbons the
14 inch line printer width.. messy but doable
I remember having to make a dried ribbon a bit juicer one time strung
it between to poles in the parkinlot and sprayed I think it was a litte
wd-40 o
Hi ED
I only know Friden as the makers of the Flexowriter. It was something like a
Teletype, but with many more characters. It was used heavily in the
typesetting industry
/Nico
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On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 06:10:38AM +, d...@661.org wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Jun 2015, Phil Budne wrote:
>
> >If I were going thru the trouble, I'd want build a TX-0 clone!
>
> I think it would me more interesting to build a replica of a pdp-8
> straight-eight using significantly-reduced flip chips
yea know about friden.. but that tape drive and all the massive
cabinets next to guy and friden???
In a message dated 6/24/2015 1:26:17 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
n...@farumdata.dk writes:
Hi ED
I only know Friden as the makers of the Flexowriter. It was something like
a
Te
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> Pihlgren
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> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 06:10:38A
On 2015-Jun-24, at 1:13 AM, couryho...@aol.com wrote:
>
> Computers ARMY COMPUTERS! early & beastly with Friden What is it? I had
> a chance to buy these photos so I did! Be fun to find the people and
> talk to them!What ever this thing is I guess I need to devote a page
> on
>
Try Vince Slyngstad
On 24/06/2015 06:59, Paul Birkel wrote:
Can anyone recommend suitable rotary switches for either the A (vertical)
or B (angled) configuration?
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 7:16 PM, Rod Smallwood <
rodsmallwoo...@btinternet.com> wrote:
Hi Guys
I am off to Friedric
On 2015-06-24 08:45, Holm Tiffe wrote:
Johnny Billquist wrote:
Well, unless I'm mistaken, when the Russian VAX-11/730 on a chip came,
DEC had already produced the uVAX II, which is also just a chip, but
much faster than an 11/730, so it's not exactly as if the Russians were
outperforming what D
On 2015-06-24 13:40, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2015-06-24 08:45, Holm Tiffe wrote:
Johnny Billquist wrote:
Well, unless I'm mistaken, when the Russian VAX-11/730 on a chip came,
DEC had already produced the uVAX II, which is also just a chip, but
much faster than an 11/730, so it's not exactl
I was at DEC when much of this took place .
The big concern was not so much the copying but the USSR just buying DEC
product on the open market.
They would set up a front company, sign up as an oem, pay their bills on
time and carry on shipping.
It took a while to sink in that good well behaved
On 2015-06-24 13:56, Rod Smallwood wrote:
I was at DEC when much of this took place .
The big concern was not so much the copying but the USSR just buying DEC
product on the open market.
They would set up a front company, sign up as an oem, pay their bills on
time and carry on shipping.
It took a
Back in the late '70s, I played a game called -0empire- on a PLATO
system hosted, IIRC, at UIUC. Reading
http://www.daleske.com/plato/empire.php, the best match to my memory is
Empire IV (IIRC, the 0 prefix indicates that the lesson was installed
system-wide, rather than being a relatively meaning
What team were you on? Wouldn’t want the Kaz, Roms or Bugs to get this kind of
information..
<>
Uncle Feddie
j...@ieee.org
> On Jun 24, 2015, at 7:36 AM, Mouse wrote:
>
> Back in the late '70s, I played a game called -0empire- on a PLATO
> system hosted, IIRC, at UIUC. Reading
> http://
> What team were you on? Wouldn¿t want the Kaz, Roms or Bugs to get
> this kind of information..
(Actually, I most often played R.)
> <>
I built an attempt to recreate it based on decade-old memories sometime
in the late '80s, which I recently dusted off (for those with git and
curiosity, git:/
If anybody has one I am interested in a Data Products 2310 if that is the
same as the DEC LP01. It should be an 80 column zone printer, and I might
take a relabeled one. The pedestal one is preferred but a table top would
be OK.
Thanks, Paul
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 1:06 PM, J. David Bryan wrote:
On Wed, 24 Jun 2015, Rod Smallwood wrote:
I was at DEC when much of this took place .
The big concern was not so much the copying but the USSR just buying DEC
product on the open market.
They would set up a front company, sign up as an oem, pay their bills on time
and carry on shipping.
It took
> On Jun 24, 2015, at 10:19 AM, Mouse wrote:
>
>> What team were you on? Wouldn¿t want the Kaz, Roms or Bugs to get
>> this kind of information..
>
> (Actually, I most often played R.)
>
>> <>
>
> I built an attempt to recreate it based on decade-old memories sometime
> in the late '80s, whi
On Jun 24, 2015, at 10:24 AM, Paul Koning wrote:
>
> The 0 prefix in the lesson name indicates a “published lesson” — which means
> a frozen copy of the original made by CDC and distributed as part of the
> PLATO distribution. The original name was “empire” and it became famous
> under that n
On Tue, 23 Jun 2015 06:46:30 -0400
Paul Birkel wrote:
> I wonder to what Soviet equipment they would have upgraded?
>
> On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 5:06 PM, william degnan
> wrote:
>
> >
> > http://millennialmainframer.com/2014/12/ibm-still-waiting-cuba-pay-mainframes/
> >
> > Who's up for it?
Fo
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 09:18:21AM -0700, Lyle Bickley wrote:
>
> I wonder what the rules are regarding purchasing and shipping
> computers (even vintage ones) out of Cuba? I don't think I'd
> want to try smuggling them out...
>
Not smuggling, liberating!
(the computers in question should bel
On Tuesday, June 23, 2015 at 22:14, jwsmobile wrote:
> Also I don't recall the Data Products ever scaling as fast by
> restricting columns. At least our 2230, 2260 and 2290 UC only and 96
> character set printers didn't. Got the same speed regardless of the
> columns on those Data Products print
> On Jun 24, 2015, at 12:15 PM, Jerry Weiss wrote:
>
> ...
> I’m still looking for a Plato IV terminal keyboard. Both the layout and
> tactile feel are truly part of the “Empire” experience.
Aaron Woolfson (at Telswitch) has done that. Proper copies, with USB interface
but using the same s
ahh the memorys i worked at dataproducts from late 1978 to late 1980
they were awesome printers the B series used the 2900 series bit slice
building blocks
they were speed daemons for their time
its too bad that manufacturing in the USA has dropped because of cheap
Chinese
we may still have gr
> The 0 prefix in the lesson name indicates a ¿published lesson¿ ¿ which means$
Ah! Thank you. I knew it had some semantic significance but I didn't
really know what. I'm quite sure the version I played was called
0empire and thus would have been such a frozen version. (I wonder if
either of t
On 6/24/2015 12:10 AM, d...@661.org wrote:
On Tue, 23 Jun 2015, Phil Budne wrote:
If I were going thru the trouble, I'd want build a TX-0 clone!
I think it would me more interesting to build a replica of a pdp-8
straight-eight using significantly-reduced flip chips with surface-mount
parts.
On 6/24/2015 9:33 AM, J. David Bryan wrote:
On Tuesday, June 23, 2015 at 22:14, jwsmobile wrote:
Also I don't recall the Data Products ever scaling as fast by
restricting columns. At least our 2230, 2260 and 2290 UC only and 96
character set printers didn't. Got the same speed regardless of
On 6/24/2015 9:50 AM, wulfman wrote:
ahh the memorys i worked at dataproducts from late 1978 to late 1980
they were awesome printers the B series used the 2900 series bit slice
building blocks
they were speed daemons for their time
its too bad that manufacturing in the USA has dropped becau
Pontus Pihlgren wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 08:45:13AM +0200, Holm Tiffe wrote:
> > I have an Elektronika 60 which is something like an 11/03 clone
> > but it isn't a clone. It has a Q-BUS with connecteors like DECs
> > original but with metric pin raster. Boards are bigger and the used
> > c
Johnny Billquist wrote:
> On 2015-06-24 08:45, Holm Tiffe wrote:
> >Johnny Billquist wrote:
> >
> >>Well, unless I'm mistaken, when the Russian VAX-11/730 on a chip came,
> >>DEC had already produced the uVAX II, which is also just a chip, but
> >>much faster than an 11/730, so it's not exactly as
Rod Smallwood wrote:
> I was at DEC when much of this took place .
> The big concern was not so much the copying but the USSR just buying DEC
> product on the open market.
> They would set up a front company, sign up as an oem, pay their bills on
> time and carry on shipping.
> It took a while t
Pontus Pihlgren wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 09:18:21AM -0700, Lyle Bickley wrote:
> >
> > I wonder what the rules are regarding purchasing and shipping
> > computers (even vintage ones) out of Cuba? I don't think I'd
> > want to try smuggling them out...
> >
>
> Not smuggling, liberating
From: Paul Birke: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 10:59 PM
Can anyone recommend suitable rotary switches for either the A (vertical)
or B (angled) configuration?
Unfortunately I don't have any leads on a modern equivalent.
(Just the fairly useless DEC part numbers.)
The construction is dead simple, tho
> On Jun 24, 2015, at 4:25 AM, Nico de Jong wrote:
>
> Hi ED
> I only know Friden as the makers of the Flexowriter. It was something like a
> Teletype, but with many more characters. It was used heavily in the
> typesetting industry
Many more? The only Flexowriters I’ve run into are those us
Get a printer ribbon from another printer, take the ribbon from the
cartridge and put it on the cartridge of your printer.
Some printers in Brazil I gotta do this, or else.
---
Enviado do meu Apple IIGS (pq eu sou chique)
Meu site: http://www.tabalabs.com.br
Meu blog: http://tabajara-la
Sorry Holm, didn't mean to grind your gears.
/P
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 09:55:14PM +0200, Holm Tiffe wrote:
> Which computers? Do you think all computers there are made/owned by IBM?
>
> I think IBM can wait until the hell gets frozen for the payment.
> It seems to me that IBM and you simply don
On Wednesday, June 24, 2015 1:35 PM, Vincent Slyngstad
wrote:
From: Paul Birke: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 10:59 PM
> Can anyone recommend suitable rotary switches for either the A (vertical)
> or B (angled) configuration?
Unfortunately I don't have any leads on a modern equivalent.
(Just t
From: Bob Rosenbloom: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 2:28 PM
I have no idea why DEC made their own switch out of the reeds. Seems like it
would cost more than a standard switch so they probably had a reason. Possibly
they thought it would not wear as much with thereeds having millions of
operations r
Hello,
I recently acquired a Persci 2142 dual disk drive with two S-100 controller
cards. The 2142 is a Persci slim-line case that fits the internal Persci
299 drives but also included were to Persci S-100 cards. The only thing
that makes sense is that one or both of these are the Persci 1170
co
Thirty years or so back I used to have a device called a 'MacInker' with which
I re-inked the ribbon spools for my OKI Microline 84 dot matrix printer.
This was a plastic plate with legs. It had a very slow rpm motor (perhaps
10rpm?) driving an upward-facing spindle which would engage in the spoo
It works if you have a good (but out of ink) ribbon/cartridge. But if you
doesn't, do as I said :)
2015-06-24 23:40 GMT-03:00 :
> Thirty years or so back I used to have a device called a 'MacInker' with
> which I re-inked the ribbon spools for my OKI Microline 84 dot matrix
> printer.
> This was
On Wed, 24 Jun 2015, ben wrote:
On 6/24/2015 12:10 AM, d...@661.org wrote:
On Tue, 23 Jun 2015, Phil Budne wrote:
If I were going thru the trouble, I'd want build a TX-0 clone!
I think it would me more interesting to build a replica of a pdp-8
straight-eight using significantly-reduced flip
On 06/24/2015 07:40 PM, ste...@malikoff.com wrote:
I recall the ink was thicker and more oily than modern inkjet ink,
sort of like what a stamp pad has.
Yup, about five years ago, I gave away mine on the Vintage Computer
forum. It had very little mileage on it, mostly because of the mess.
Th
On 6/24/2015 10:01 PM, d...@661.org wrote:
On Wed, 24 Jun 2015, ben wrote:
On 6/24/2015 12:10 AM, d...@661.org wrote:
On Tue, 23 Jun 2015, Phil Budne wrote:
If I were going thru the trouble, I'd want build a TX-0 clone!
I think it would me more interesting to build a replica of a pdp-8
str
Am 23.06.2015 um 19:40 schrieb Vincent Slyngstad:
From: Ethan Dicks: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 8:07 AM
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 10:54 AM, Jörg Hoppe wrote:
Does anybody has a FPMS with schematics for the M705 modul? Perhaps
as part
of some PDP-8 doc?
Vince Slyngstad has some modern schematics
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