I just love this translation: "*But me, naturally, anybody especially didn't ask.*"
Been there; still am ... On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 2:45 AM, Holm Tiffe <h...@freibergnet.de> wrote: > Johnny Billquist wrote: > > > On 2015-06-24 02:06, Mark J. Blair wrote: > > > > > >>On Jun 23, 2015, at 09:32 , Holm Tiffe <h...@freibergnet.de> wrote: > > >> > > >>1) > > >>Yes they copied the PDP11 and the VAX.... but, They made an VAX Chip > > >>that's > > >>compatible to the VAX730...and we all know that the VAX730 ist not an > one > > >>chip solution as the russian chip is. > > > > > >Ooh! Is there any chance I could get my hands on one of those > single-chip > > >VAX730 "clone" machines? That sounds quite cool. > > > > Well, unless I'm mistaken, when the Russian VAX-11/730 on a chip came, > > DEC had already produced the uVAX II, which is also just a chip, but > > much faster than an 11/730, so it's not exactly as if the Russians were > > outperforming what DEC was doing... Exactly when did this Russian chip > > come out, by the way? Curious on exactly how far DEC had come at the > > time of that chip. :-) > > > > Johnny > > > > -- > > That wasn't the question at all Johnny. > I wanted to make clear that not all clones are clones. > I have an Elektronika 60 which is something like an 11/03 clone > but it isn't a clone. It has a Q-BUS with connecteors like DECs > original but with metric pin raster. Boards are bigger and the used > chips and the schematics are totally different in most cases.S > > > My memory confused the VAX730 with the VAX750... > > The machine is a development of it's own conforming some of the DEC Specs > so that the original Software can run on that thing (E60). > (The console SLU is a quad size board build from only TTL) > The same happened with that VAX730 Chip, it was developed from only 10 > people following the DEC reference manual. > > http://www.155la3.ru/k1839.htm > > http://www.online-translator.com gives halfways readable results from > the translation of the web frame from russian to english. > > ..for PDP11 like processors: > > http://www.155la3.ru/k1801.htm > > I have a file with the internal Schematics (!) of the K1801VM2 processor, > a PDP11 running w/o MMU at 10Mhz. There is also a 1801VM3 with internal > MMU. > > Regards, > > Holm > -- > Technik Service u. Handel Tiffe, www.tsht.de, Holm Tiffe, > Freiberger Straße 42, 09600 Oberschöna, USt-Id: DE253710583 > www.tsht.de, i...@tsht.de, Fax +49 3731 74200, Mobil: 0172 8790 741 > >
