I'm also interested if you have any information about what the system
was doing Noel!
Was it in use until just recently? It's always fun to hear about older
systems that are still being used for production work.
On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 8:09 AM, Noel Chiappa wrote:
> So I know someone who has a wo
Gosh, people sure are overreacting...
The 11/34 isn't the most sought after system so it might be difficult to
find someone to pick it up or willing pay the shipping.
The parts are probably not very sought after either so it might not be
worth the effort to split it up with the hope of selling
> I seriously doubt the splitting of the H960 from its feet or not will
> influence the outcome of a job position.
I don't know, because I don't know enough about their exact financial state.
But it doesn't matter, for two reasons: First, given that it's for a good
cause, it shouldn't mat
rt and
keep/resell/recycle the rest.
m
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From:
To:
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Subject: Re: Maximizing value selling a working 11/34
> bah! sacrilege!
>
>
> In a message dated 12/8/2015 8:30:58 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
> b...@update.uu.
yea but I doubt a pair of H960 feet would be a make or break for
her... just 'sayin
In a message dated 12/8/2015 12:37:21 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
wdonze...@gmail.com writes:
> Mmm, of your business depends on the value of a vintage computer. You
should ask your
> Mmm, of your business depends on the value of a vintage computer. You should
> ask yourself if your business can survive anyway.
We know nothing of the business situation. small consulting firms are
notorious for having huge swings in cash flow. It may be that the
business in question really is
Aan: "'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts'"
Onderwerp: RE: Maximizing value selling a working 11/34
Ed#wrote
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bah! sacrilege!
-
While I understand the sentiment c'mon... Noel presented clear and
reasonable request to forgo the judgement and
On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 2:29 PM, Rik Bos wrote:
> Mmm, of your business depends on the value of a vintage computer. You
> should ask yourself if your business can survive anyway.
>
>
>
>
Noel *has* my 11/34 ... and I sold another one a few years ago.
Fortunately there are still a few out there and
;Noel Chiappa"
Verzonden: 8-12-2015 20:19
Aan: "cctalk@classiccmp.org"
CC: "j...@mercury.lcs.mit.edu"
Onderwerp: Re: Maximizing value selling a working 11/34
> bah! sacrilege!
So you've got someone working for you, been working for you for years, and
you t
Verzonden: 8-12-2015 20:19
Aan: "cctalk@classiccmp.org"
CC: "j...@mercury.lcs.mit.edu"
Onderwerp: Re: Maximizing value selling a working 11/34
> bah! sacrilege!
So you've got someone working for you, been working for you for years, and
you think it's mo
s.mit.edu"
Onderwerp: Re: Maximizing value selling a working 11/34
> bah! sacrilege!
So you've got someone working for you, been working for you for years, and
you think it's more important to not commit the sacrilege of splitting up an
H960 and its feet, rather than to have
Hmm,
-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: "Noel Chiappa"
Verzonden: 8-12-2015 20:19
Aan: "cctalk@classiccmp.org"
CC: "j...@mercury.lcs.mit.edu"
Onderwerp: Re: Maximizing value selling a working 11/34
> bah! sacrilege!
So you've got someone wor
Ed#wrote
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bah! sacrilege!
-
While I understand the sentiment c'mon... Noel presented clear and
reasonable request to forgo the judgement and assist him. Let's not
degenerate to "oh, the horrorr".
J
> bah! sacrilege!
So you've got someone working for you, been working for you for years, and
you think it's more important to not commit the sacrilege of splitting up an
H960 and its feet, rather than to have to tell them they're fired, that they
have to go home and tell their spouse and kids
bah! sacrilege!
In a message dated 12/8/2015 8:30:58 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
b...@update.uu.se writes:
sell the feet separately from the H960, etc) is
>>> the way to get the most money,
Will wrote...
---
I think your slice of the pie just got smaller in my mind.
The community is a lot bigger than you realize. A wild guess might be in the
few thousands by now.
This is not a slam, just an observation.
Once cctalk and cctech are recombined, I suspect it will be a siz
On Dec 8, 2015, at 9:55 AM, William Donzelli wrote:
> The community is a lot bigger than you realize. A wild guess might be
> in the few thousands by now.
I've got 13,000 on RetroBattlestations and I doubt very many of them know about
the cctalk mailing list.
--
Follow me on twitter: @FozzTex
> Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 11:47 AM
> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
> Subject: Re: Maximizing value selling a working 11/34
>
> Well, no offense, and maybe it is a decent size piece of the pie, but there
> are a lot that I have found are not listmem
ite some time ago, it was in the mid-hundreds.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of William
> Donzelli
> Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 11:47 AM
> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
> Subject: Re: Ma
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Subject: Re: Maximizing value selling a working 11/34
Well, no offense, and maybe it is a decent size piece of the pie, but there are
a lot that I have found are not listmembers, especially in the big iron and
(Peecee) microcomputer areas.
What is the membership size o
: Maximizing value selling a working 11/34
Well, no offense, and maybe it is a decent size piece of the pie, but there are
a lot that I have found are not listmembers, especially in the big iron and
(Peecee) microcomputer areas.
What is the membership size of the list?
--
Will
On Tue, Dec 8, 2015
Well, no offense, and maybe it is a decent size piece of the pie, but
there are a lot that I have found are not listmembers, especially in
the big iron and (Peecee) microcomputer areas.
What is the membership size of the list?
--
Will
On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 12:35 PM, Jay West wrote:
> Will wrot
Will wrote...
>Also, keep in mind that the membership of this list (especially the active
>members) is just a small fraction of the computer collector community.
Eh, I'm fairly sure that a somewhat sizeable percentage of the people in the
hobby most definitely DO wind up subscribing here.
J
> 4. I can't see any form of sale raising salary type money.
Working PDP-11 systems have been fetching good money lately. We do not
know the circumstances with the business, but the sale of the system
very well could keep a tech employed for a little longer - and
sometimes that might make all
Hi Noel
Being in the UK the morality or otherwise is not for me
to comment.
I have an 11/34A awaiting restoration. So I would not have a vested
interest in its
market value. What I can't work out is why there's such an old system
still in working order.
1. What the heck is
Do they have excess employed staff who need additional tasks created to
keep them busy?
Do they have other use for the space? Or do they have excess space, and
need a way to keep the space occupied indefinitely? Piles or boxes of
pieces of machine take as much or more space than assembled mac
On 2015-12-08 16:25, William Donzelli wrote:
You should perhaps reread Noel's message - he is asking for someone
that may or may not have any interest in the well being of the
machine, but probably has a very strong interest in keeping their
business afloat. There are at least a few people on thi
Well, for one, I wanted to answer
because I understand the need to
maximize income from a sale, and happen
to own the same equipment they're selling.
No one here has to buy this system or
pay any more than they want to, so I
don't see any abuse occurring.
You use the word "profit" but th
On 2015-12-08 16:24, Noel Chiappa wrote:
> From: Johnny Billquist
> (Or maybe I'm just naive in thinking that people who request assistance
> to maximize their profits targeting the same crowd they ask for
> assistance from (for free) is abusive.)
_I_ am not selling the item
>William Donzelli wrote:
Keep it together. RL drives are pigs to ship and rather common.
Basically, they are hard to sell on their own.
Also, be aware that the competition is not someone else selling
another PDP-11 system, but a PC running Windows which
runs the same software UNDER Ersatz-11
You should perhaps reread Noel's message - he is asking for someone
that may or may not have any interest in the well being of the
machine, but probably has a very strong interest in keeping their
business afloat. There are at least a few people on this list that are
experienced and qualified to he
> From: Johnny Billquist
> (Or maybe I'm just naive in thinking that people who request assistance
> to maximize their profits targeting the same crowd they ask for
> assistance from (for free) is abusive.)
_I_ am not selling the item in question; I merely happen to know the selle
Why would anyone here want to contribute to such a question? The outcome
is unlike to be contributing anything here anyway.
(Or maybe I'm just naive in thinking that people who request assistance
to maximize their profits targeting the same crowd they ask for
assistance from (for free) is abus
On 12/8/2015 9:36 AM, Jay West wrote:
Noel wrote.
-
So I know someone who has a working 11/34
...
list it as a whole with a firm number in mind that it must sell for (or
better). If t
>> So which direction [as a whole or parting out] would get the most
>> money?
> One would think that the highest revenue would be parting it out.
> Typically that is true on paper. But be aware that [...]
Also be aware that it will cost you people time (which usually
translates fairly directly
Noel wrote.
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So I know someone who has a working 11/34 (4 RLO2's and the 11/34 in an
H960, running RSTS/E) they want to sell, and they want to know how to
maximize the value - i.e. whether to sell it as a complete working system,
or to part
Keep it together. RL drives are pigs to ship and rather common.
Basically, they are hard to sell on their own.
--
Will
On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 9:09 AM, Noel Chiappa wrote:
> So I know someone who has a working 11/34 (4 RLO2's and the 11/34 in an H960,
> running RSTS/E) they want to sell, and they
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