RE: Advice on Desoldering an IC

2022-04-22 Thread W2HX via cctalk
Posts' Subject: RE: Advice on Desoldering an IC I decided to invest in a Hakko FR-301. It worked almost immediately. Hours of trying before, I did it in 10 minutes! Regards Rob > -Original Message- > From: cctalk On Behalf Of dwight via > cctalk > Sent: 16 April 20

Re: Advice on Desoldering an IC

2022-04-22 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
On 4/22/22 12:03 PM, Rob Jarratt via cctalk wrote: I decided to invest in a Hakko FR-301. It worked almost immediately. Hours of trying before, I did it in 10 minutes! Thank you for the feedback and the comparison of without and with it. -- Grant. . . . unix || die

RE: Advice on Desoldering an IC

2022-04-22 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
-Topic Posts > > Subject: Re: Advice on Desoldering an IC > > Sometimes the IC has been installed with the pins under tension. This is > typical of machine inserted ICs. When the solder is loose, bend the pin away > from the side it is pressed against. Do this carefully, don't ov

Re: Advice on Desoldering an IC

2022-04-16 Thread dwight via cctalk
Sometimes the IC has been installed with the pins under tension. This is typical of machine inserted ICs. When the solder is loose, bend the pin away from the side it is pressed against. Do this carefully, don't over bend. You want it to center in the hole. I recommend doing this with a separate

Re: Advice on Desoldering an IC

2022-04-16 Thread Peter Coghlan via cctalk
I had to desolder a fairly large number of 14/16 pin ICs from a two layer PCB recently. I had an basic soldering iron and a spring loaded solder sucker thing. I also had some wick but never having had good results with this, I decided not to bother trying it this time. I was aware of the idea of

Re: Advice on Desoldering an IC

2022-04-15 Thread Jay Logue via cctalk
As mentioned, I find it best to cut the pins off the IC right at the IC body and then remove them individually.  Once the IC is removed, I use a third hand to hold the board vertically, and then grab each pin with tweezers or needle-nose pliers from one side of the board and lightly touch the s

Re: Advice on Desoldering an IC

2022-04-15 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 4/15/22 17:12, W2HX wrote: > Just be careful around cerroblend. According to Wikipedia... > > "... is a metal alloy that is useful for soldering and making custom metal > parts, but which is toxic to touch or breathe vapors from." > "...is toxic because it contains lead and cadmium, and conta

RE: Advice on Desoldering an IC

2022-04-15 Thread W2HX via cctalk
ative. The dust may form flammable mixtures with air." 73 Eugene W2HX Subscribe to my Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/w2hx-channel/videos -Original Message- From: cctalk On Behalf Of Chuck Guzis via cctalk Sent: Friday, April 15, 2022 7:42 PM To: Fred Cisin via cctal

Re: Advice on Desoldering an IC

2022-04-15 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
For very-difficult de-soldering, I use a variation on the Chip-Quik idea. I take a hunk of Cerrobend 158 fusible alloy and a file and make a small pile of powder from it. I then pack the powder around the pins of the IC to remove and heat the area using the light from a 75 watt PAR-38 halogen re

RE: Advice on Desoldering an IC

2022-04-15 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
Once the chip is out, for cleaning out the holes, I used a spring loaded solder sucker on one side of the board, with soldering iron on the other side. also, solder wick sometimes a wooden toothpick in extreme cases, a small drill bit turned by hand in a pin vise (NOT chucked up in a powered 1/

RE: Advice on Desoldering an IC

2022-04-15 Thread Martin Bishop via cctalk
--Original Message- From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Rob Jarratt via cctalk Sent: 15 April 2022 22:33 To: 'Chris Zach' ; 'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts' Subject: RE: Advice on Desoldering an IC I do have some diagonal cu

Re: Advice on Desoldering an IC

2022-04-15 Thread John H. Reinhardt via cctalk
April 2022 18:51 To: r...@jarratt.me.uk; Rob Jarratt ; General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts ; Rob Jarratt via cctalk Subject: Re: Advice on Desoldering an IC Cut the pins with a very sharp set of dykes then remove them one at a time. Then use flux and detailer braid to remove the s

RE: Advice on Desoldering an IC

2022-04-15 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
; Rob Jarratt ; General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts ; Rob Jarratt via cctalk Subject: Re: Advice on Desoldering an IC Cut the pins with a very sharp set of dykes then remove them one at a time. Then use flux and detailer braid to remove the solder On April 15, 2022 1:49:33 PM EDT

RE: Advice on Desoldering an IC

2022-04-15 Thread Martin Bishop via cctalk
Rob I would imagine that an 11/24 CPU is at least a 4 layer board, with power planes and hopefully thermal reliefs at pins connected to a plane. The pins you will be having difficulty with are most likely on the Gnd or Vcc plane. I often leave those pins for last, once in the groove. And, I'

RE: Advice on Desoldering an IC

2022-04-15 Thread W2HX via cctalk
I would not attempt any desoldering without my hakko 808. I never leave home with out it. While you are sucking and heating the pin, wiggle the pin and it work great. I've desoldered 40 pin chips without trouble, they drop right out of the board. I desoldered this 40 pin chip from a working devi

Re: Advice on Desoldering an IC

2022-04-15 Thread Antonio Carlini via cctalk
On 15/04/2022 18:49, Rob Jarratt via cctalk wrote: I am using a fairly cheap desoldering station (this one https://cpc.farnell.com/duratool/d00672/desoldering-station-uk-eu-plug/dp/SD 01384?st=duratool%20desoldering). Its spec in terms of vacuum pressure is equivalent to that of the professional

Re: Advice on Desoldering an IC

2022-04-15 Thread Mike Katz via cctalk
I have to second this comment. I learned to solder in the early 70s building kits and again professionally in the early 80s. In the early days of thicker circuit boards (2 layer only).  A solder sucker and solder wick would work. However, the most expedient and safest way in terms of potent

Re: Advice on Desoldering an IC

2022-04-15 Thread Ethan O'Toole via cctalk
I am trying to remove an IC from my PDP 11/24 CPU, a DS8641. I am really struggling to desolder it. I am using the technique of applying fresh solder and then removing it. But after multiple cycles of this I think I am starting to damage the PCB. Are there any tips for removing ICs? Thanks Rob

Re: Advice on Desoldering an IC

2022-04-15 Thread Chris Zach via cctalk
Cut the pins with a very sharp set of dykes then remove them one at a time. Then use flux and detailer braid to remove the solder On April 15, 2022 1:49:33 PM EDT, Rob Jarratt via cctalk wrote: >I am trying to remove an IC from my PDP 11/24 CPU, a DS8641. I am really >struggling to desolder it.