At 06:47 AM 10/20/2015, Noel Chiappa wrote:
> From: Rick Murphy
> Lots and lots of fun like that. What an space optimizer would do if
> there was one. :)
Wow. You did all that by hand?
Yup. Lots of work. That's kind of why I find the implication that I
don't know what's going on
> From: Rick Murphy
> Lots and lots of fun like that. What an space optimizer would do if
> there was one. :)
Wow. You did all that by hand?
If so, with a program that big, wouldn't it have made sense to try and write
a separate post-processor to do all those optimizations? Surely it
At 01:10 PM 10/19/2015, ben wrote:
Since the original email was running simh, does not the emulator have
the hardware floating point as a option, so you can free up a bit more
memory?.
I don't think there's any way to re-purpose the memory used by the FPP
emulator. And, to be honest, when run
At 07:07 AM 10/19/2015, Johnny Billquist wrote:
By the way, could you describe how you managed to squeeze some memory
from ADVENT? And if the first free location is 7, then it sounds
like it would be possible to run in 28K.
The primary way to cut memory usage was recoding the main functio
On 10/19/2015 8:56 AM, Rick Murphy wrote:
On Mon, 19 Oct 2015, Johnny Billquist wrote:
Unless I remember wrong, the space for device drivers is already
reserved in FRTS...?
Yes. For normal device assignment, you use the command decoder to assign
unit numbers to files, which loads the handler
On Mon, 19 Oct 2015, Johnny Billquist wrote:
Unless I remember wrong, the space for device drivers is already reserved in
FRTS...?
Yes. For normal device assignment, you use the command decoder to assign
unit numbers to files, which loads the handlers for same.
Adventure uses the USR routi
On 2015-10-19 13:03, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2015-10-19 12:40, Rick Murphy wrote:
At 11:08 PM 10/18/2015, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2015-10-19 04:58, ben wrote:
On 10/18/2015 8:43 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
thus making it also able to run under MULTOS-8.
Memory requirements and availabi
On 2015-10-19 12:40, Rick Murphy wrote:
At 11:08 PM 10/18/2015, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2015-10-19 04:58, ben wrote:
On 10/18/2015 8:43 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
thus making it also able to run under MULTOS-8.
Memory requirements and availability is a different story, but yes,
ADVENT wil
At 11:08 PM 10/18/2015, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2015-10-19 04:58, ben wrote:
On 10/18/2015 8:43 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
thus making it also able to run under MULTOS-8.
Memory requirements and availability is a different story, but yes,
ADVENT will require the full 32K, as far as I remem
On 10/18/2015 9:08 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2015-10-19 04:58, ben wrote:
On 10/18/2015 8:43 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
thus making it also able to run under MULTOS-8.
Memory requirements and availability is a different story, but yes,
ADVENT will require the full 32K, as far as I rememb
On 2015-10-19 04:58, ben wrote:
On 10/18/2015 8:43 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
thus making it also able to run under MULTOS-8.
Memory requirements and availability is a different story, but yes,
ADVENT will require the full 32K, as far as I remember.
I think a few changes where made a few yea
On 10/18/2015 8:43 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
thus making it also able to run under MULTOS-8.
Memory requirements and availability is a different story, but yes,
ADVENT will require the full 32K, as far as I remember.
I think a few changes where made a few years back, It could be a bit
smalle
On 2015-10-19 03:04, Rick Murphy wrote:
At 08:37 AM 10/18/2015, Johnny Billquist wrote:
I decided to look into this a couple of days ago, since the basic
workings of FRTS includes using interrupts, which is not possible if
running under time sharing. That would also imply that it would not be
p
At 08:37 AM 10/18/2015, Johnny Billquist wrote:
I decided to look into this a couple of days ago, since the basic
workings of FRTS includes using interrupts, which is not possible if
running under time sharing. That would also imply that it would not be
possible to use F4 under RTS-8, which I
On 2015-10-18 12:37, Rick Murphy wrote:
At 01:22 PM 10/17/2015, David Gesswein wrote:
On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 11:03:51PM -0400, Rick Murphy wrote:
System users guide pg 4-10. Fortran IV. Real time functions and floating
point processor functions are not currently supported. The internal
device
At 01:22 PM 10/17/2015, David Gesswein wrote:
On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 11:03:51PM -0400, Rick Murphy wrote:
System users guide pg 4-10. Fortran IV. Real time functions and floating
point processor functions are not currently supported. The internal
device handlers for high speed reader/punch and
On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 12:41:56PM -0600, Joe wrote:
> I found the .TIFF manual on another site, and PDF'd it.
>
Its on my site also
http://www.pdp8online.com/pdp8cgi/query_docs/query.pl?Search=etos
On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 11:03:51PM -0400, Rick Murphy wrote:
> At 02:43 PM 10/16/2015, Joe wrote:
>
> That would be quite impressive it it actually worked.
> Does ETOS support FORTRAN programs, with the FRTS handling
> interrupts et al?
>
It appears to have limited (to the point of probably not b
On 10/16/2015 9:03 PM, Rick Murphy wrote:
At 02:43 PM 10/16/2015, Joe wrote:
> .DIR
> HELP
> ADVNT
> !DARN THING DON"T TIME SHARE!
Funny, that was my original mission, to get ADVENT running on timeshare.
Great minds think alike! Multos8 won't timeshare it either.
That would be quite impressi
At 02:43 PM 10/16/2015, Joe wrote:
> .DIR
> HELP
> ADVNT
> !DARN THING DON"T TIME SHARE!
Funny, that was my original mission, to get ADVENT running on timeshare.
Great minds think alike! Multos8 won't timeshare it either.
That would be quite impressive it it actually worked.
Does ETOS support
On 2015-10-16 20:43, Joe wrote:
-Original Message-
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of ben
Sent: 2015-10-15 12:04 PM
To: cctalk@classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: PDP8 / ETOS
.DIR
HELP
ADVNT
!DARN THING DON"T TIME SHARE!
Funny, that was my original mi
> -Original Message-
> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of David
> Gesswein
> Sent: 2015-10-14 6:38 PM
> To: cct...@classiccmp.org
> Subject: Re: PDP8 / ETOS
>
> On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 11:06:25AM -0600, Joe wrote:
> > > O
I loaned a list member several packs with ETOS on them. They need to be
cleaned and inspected before they can be read.
I know he is busy and going to be for a while. If anyone needs more info,
feel free to contact me off list.
Paul
On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 2:03 PM, ben wrote:
>
> .R ETOS
>> ET
.R ETOS
ETOS V5B
OPTION?T
?LOGIN PLEASE
!LOGIN
ETOS V5B AT 00:00:00 A.M. ON TUE 01-JAN-75
ACCOUNT? 0,4
PASSWORD?
JOB 3 LOGGED IN ON CONSOLE 0
WELCOME TO DAVID GESSWEIN'S ETOS SYSTEM
TYPE HELP TO OBTAIN ASSISTANCE
.^VS
!ASSIGN DK1
!CONT
.^VS
!LOOKUP 5=DK1:,0
!CONT
.DIR CHN5:
01-JAN-75
On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 11:06:25AM -0600, Joe wrote:
> > On Mon, Oct 05, 2015 at 09:56:36AM -0600, Joe wrote:
> Thanks for the response. I guess not to many people have messed around with
> Multos8 or ETOS.
>
You using my copy or do you have your own? Using emulator or real machine?
> I'm trying
On Mon, Oct 05, 2015 at 09:56:36AM -0600, Joe wrote:
>
> Just wondering if any one has any experience setting up an ETOS system on a
> PDP-8?
>
Some. I have it running on my online PDP-8 though am not an expert.
>
>
> I've got most of it working, including adding a second terminal, but can't
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