Re: Excessive Bounces

2016-07-02 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg
> On Jul 2, 2016, at 2:37 AM, Jay West wrote: > > Of those bounces, almost 100% of them were due to DMARC/DKIM mechanisms. I > view DMARC/DKIM as less than useless. First, they are far from universally > implemented - so most valid email is not DMARC/DKIM "protected". Second a > large percentage

RE: Excessive Bounces

2016-07-02 Thread Greg Stark
Well with yahoo domain having a hard fail specified it looks like it's too stay. The typical troublemaker with yahoo mail is lists modifying message bodies or subject lines. Those practices will gauge have to end (and frankly it can't be soon enough imho). That said the usual consequence is that m

Re: Excessive Bounces

2016-07-02 Thread Comcast
I've gotten the same disabled issue on my Comcast email. -Bob > On Jul 2, 2016, at 10:37 AM, Cavebob wrote: > > I have had the excessive bounce problem several times in the past using my > sbcglobal.net account. I switched to my own private server and have not had a > problem since. It turns

Re: Excessive Bounces

2016-07-02 Thread Cavebob
I have had the excessive bounce problem several times in the past using my sbcglobal.net account. I switched to my own private server and have not had a problem since. It turns out that ATT's anti-spam initiative can be fickle and at times a bit draconian. Bob

Re: Excessive Bounces

2016-07-02 Thread william degnan
oh, and I switched to gmail a while back while experimenting with my raspberry pi, I am not using my own mail server for this list any more. I do use it for other lists. It's easy to switch around, why not just try a different email address at least for a while?

Re: Excessive Bounces

2016-07-02 Thread william degnan
> > > > I have no competence to judge the merits or otherwise of these mechanisms, > so I won't say anything about it. What I would say though is, if this > affects a fair number of people, could the list server be configured to be > a > bit more tolerant of bounces? > > Regards > > Rob > > > It wo

RE: Excessive Bounces

2016-07-02 Thread Rob Jarratt
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Jay West > Sent: 02 July 2016 10:37 > To: 'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts' > > Subject: RE: Excessive Bounces > > I did dig into this for Rob,

RE: Excessive Bounces

2016-07-02 Thread Jay West
I did dig into this for Rob, as well as a smattering of others that got disabled yesterday early am. Almost 100% of the email addresses that get disabled due to excessive retries are Hotmail, aol, and yahoo. Those email providers are well known as "less than reliable" to many servers, often becau

RE: Excessive Bounces

2016-07-01 Thread Jay West
Rob wrote - I keep getting emails from the list server disabling my account for excessive bounces. Is it possible to get a log showing where the problem is coming from so I can complain to my ISP? - Gone are the days when people "just know" about mailman-owner, etc. :) Rather

RE: Excessive Bounces

2016-07-01 Thread Rob Jarratt
> I have found there are two possible causes for excessive bounce, > > a) Worn out shock absorbers. > > b) Badly adjusted high area female support systems > Very helpful :-) :-)

Re: Excessive Bounces

2016-07-01 Thread Douglas Taylor
On 7/1/2016 5:01 PM, Rod Smallwood wrote: On 01/07/2016 18:10, Rob Jarratt wrote: I keep getting emails from the list server disabling my account for excessive bounces. Is it possible to get a log showing where the problem is coming from so I can complain to my ISP? Thanks Rob I have

Re: Excessive Bounces

2016-07-01 Thread Rod Smallwood
On 01/07/2016 18:10, Rob Jarratt wrote: I keep getting emails from the list server disabling my account for excessive bounces. Is it possible to get a log showing where the problem is coming from so I can complain to my ISP? Thanks Rob I have found there are two possible causes for exce