On 02/ 2/16 01:11 AM, Guy Sotomayor wrote:
Yea, all of the management was done through smit (I think that's the command).
Management done thru smit - true, if you had the hardware to run the X11/CDE
GUI. Otherwise, it was smitty (with emphasis on the tty) on green screen.
Menu
driv
[IBM PC ROM BASIC]
> Well it would, otherwise IBM DOS Basic wouldn't work
.> .. it checks for the Basic ROMS and won't run on a clone...
Not so much 'checks for them' as 'uses large numbers of
routines from them'. The BASIC on an IBM PC-DOS disk is
a much smaller file than the one on a norm
>
> IBM's PS/2 was designed to remain software compatible with their PC/AT/XT
> line of computers upon which the large PC clone market was built, but the
> hardware was quite different. PS/2 had two BIOSes; one was named ABIOS
> (Advanced BIOS) which provided a new protected mode
Probably to the point where these can be experienced without fear mongering
and it's of course dependent on local laws not just US
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abandonware. IBM has much better things to
do than attack people messing around with an ancient nonviable operating
system and Amdahl isn
I can confirm much of Guy's comments.
I want to keep this as short as possible and not get booted from the mailing
list. The Intel/CISC version of AIX is easily available out on the Internet via
floppy disc images. Along with AIX's predecessor, RT.
The IBM RT software was developed for IBM
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> Sotomayor
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> Subject: Re: AIX for IBM system 370
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> On 2/1/16 7:58
On Feb 2, 2016, at 12:21 AM, Phil Budne wrote:
> Configuration was stored in a "Object Database" (so forget anything
> you ever knew about the /etc directory). System administration for
> mortals was done with a GUI called "SMIT". It showed an animation of
> a person running. If the command fa
mån 2016-02-01 klockan 20:37 -0800 skrev Guy Sotomayor:
>
> On 2/1/16 8:11 PM, Eric Smith wrote:
> > On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 8:09 PM, devin davison wrote:
> >> I really wanted to take a look at the AIX version of unix.
> >> I don't have any of the original hardware, I assume there was a straight
On 2/1/16 10:05 PM, Eric Smith wrote:
On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 9:37 PM, Guy Sotomayor wrote:
The AIX in the quote was regarding AIX for the RS/6000. The kernel for AIX
on the
RS/6000 bore no real resemblance to any other Unix kernel.
[...]
Yes, it was alien (vs traditional Unix kernels) but
My favorite quote (by my one-time boss at BU, Barry Shein):
"AIX, it will remind you of Unix"
Eric Smith wrote:
> Am I misremembering, or doesn't AIX use substantially different
> commands for managing things, rather than the commands typically found
> in /sbin and/or /usr/sbin on "normal" Unix sy
On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 9:37 PM, Guy Sotomayor wrote:
> The AIX in the quote was regarding AIX for the RS/6000. The kernel for AIX
> on the
> RS/6000 bore no real resemblance to any other Unix kernel.
[...]
> Yes, it was alien (vs traditional Unix kernels) but it was simple and quite
> fast.
Am I
On 2/1/16 8:11 PM, Eric Smith wrote:
On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 8:09 PM, devin davison wrote:
I really wanted to take a look at the AIX version of unix.
I don't have any of the original hardware, I assume there was a straight
unix port for the system 370,
There may be a "straight unix port" for
On 2/1/16 7:58 PM, devin davison wrote:
What machine would you recommend for the Linux route. The idea being to run
the oldest machine possible.
I was looking at AIX because it ran on one of the oldest ibm machines i
could find.
I see the big S/390 machines have pretty good linux support, but
On Mon, 1 Feb 2016, devin davison wrote:
What machine would you recommend for the Linux route. The idea being to run
the oldest machine possible.
I was looking at AIX because it ran on one of the oldest ibm machines i
could find.
Way back, circa 1980, Unix V6 was ported to the 370, a bit late
On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 8:09 PM, devin davison wrote:
> I really wanted to take a look at the AIX version of unix.
> I don't have any of the original hardware, I assume there was a straight
> unix port for the system 370,
There may be a "straight unix port" for the System/370, but AIX ain't
it. Th
On Mon, 1 Feb 2016, devin davison wrote:
What machine would you recommend for the Linux route. The idea being to run
the oldest machine possible.
I was looking at AIX because it ran on one of the oldest ibm machines i
could find.
Howzbout Xenix?
Could run it on a 286 AT.
Maybe even on an XT? A
What machine would you recommend for the Linux route. The idea being to run
the oldest machine possible.
I was looking at AIX because it ran on one of the oldest ibm machines i
could find.
I see the big S/390 machines have pretty good linux support, but god, ill
never find one around here. Pretty
If you want a "Unix" experience on the mainframe, the easiest/best way
at this point
is Linux.
TTFN - Guy
On 2/1/16 7:09 PM, devin davison wrote:
Darn. I figured as much as far as being licenced, but figured I would ask.
I really wanted to take a look at the AIX version of unix.
I don't have a
Darn. I figured as much as far as being licenced, but figured I would ask.
I really wanted to take a look at the AIX version of unix.
I don't have any of the original hardware, I assume there was a straight
unix port for the system 370, but i have enough native hardware that runs
unix i might as we
As I said on the Hercules list, its licenced materials so probably not
available anywhere, and IBM is pretty protective about its intellectual
property.
It wasn't widely used, and it wasn't popular where it was used. There was also
Amdahl UTS but again licenced.
Dave
G4UGM
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> Subject: Re: AIX for IBM system 370
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>> On Feb 1, 2016, at 3:10 PM, devin davison wrote:
>>
>> I have been messing with the Hercules emulator, and have really been
>> wanting to take a look at ibm AIX, and get a working
From: cctalk [cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] on behalf of Guy Sotomayor
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Sent: Monday, February 01, 2016 3:16 PM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: AIX for IBM system 370
> On Feb 1, 2016, at 3:10 PM, devin davison wrote:
>
> I have been me
> On Feb 1, 2016, at 3:10 PM, devin davison wrote:
>
> I have been messing with the Hercules emulator, and have really been
> wanting to take a look at ibm AIX, and get a working install on an emulated
> system 370. I have found no mention of install media or disk images of a
> working system fo
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