Noel said
> I just had a look at my -11/20 (the two are basically the same machine; the
> /15 was intended for the OEM market, the /20 the end-user), and it has an
> intermediate between this, and the final incandescent bulb form (as on the
> -11/45), where there were bulbs with plastic bases plugg
The writeup for this machine is here:
http://everist.org/NobLog/20181104_PDP-8S.htm
For those who are interested.
Guy
On 11/03/2018 09:48 PM, Steve Malikoff via cctalk wrote:
Later PDP-8 models used "bi-pin base" bulbs that had a
factory-molded-on base and a pair of sturdy pins.
Sounds very /360-ish :)
Well, sort of the same idea, but not that close. The 360
had metal cases with the pins in a plastic rear piec
> From: Steven Malikoff
>> The bulbs had "flying leads" coming out of the glass, no bases ... The
>> bulbs just hovered over the PCB
> It makes me wonder if the 11/15 is much the same.
I just had a look at my -11/20 (the two are basically the same machine; the
/15 was intended f
On Sun, Nov 4, 2018 at 12:31 AM Guy Dunphy via cctalk
wrote:
> Incidentally, several people called the material used for the lamps shroud
> plate 'MDF.'
> It's not, it's that high density cloth+bakelite (or something) material used
> for electrical switchboard panels. Very tough stuff.
Ah. Fro
On 2018-Nov-03, at 9:27 PM, Guy Dunphy via cctalk wrote:
. . .
> The front panel is in pieces atm. And clean now.
> Incidentally, several people called the material used for the lamps shroud
> plate 'MDF.'
> It's not, it's that high density cloth+bakelite (or something) material used
> for electr
At 10:18 AM 4/11/2018 +1000, Steve wrote:
>The "PDP dash eight oblique S" back in 1968 in 'What the future sounded like':
> https://youtu.be/8KkW8Ul7Q1I?t=638
Cool, thanks for that. Ah, Hawkwind...
Damn, that 'left all the synths in the basement, and it got flooded' story is
painful.
In my opi
Ethan said
>> If there are any special 8/S lightbulb housings that were plastic, I'm happy
>> to CAD them up and 3D print...
>
> Nope. That's now how these worked. The bulbs had "flying leads"
> coming out of the glass, no bases, and the light barrier was a bit of
> MDF with holes in it (the MDF
On Sat, Nov 3, 2018 at 8:18 PM Steve Malikoff via cctalk
wrote:
> Guy said
> > ...I've received a PDP-8/S...
>
> The "PDP dash eight oblique S" back in 1968 in 'What the future sounded
> like': https://youtu.be/8KkW8Ul7Q1I?t=638
Fantastic little
Guy said
> This is rather sad.
> I've received a PDP-8/S. It turns out to be missing so much, that it's
> probably beyond restoration.
> Anyone who can think of potential ways to find the missing parts, please
> speak up.
>
> http://everist.org/pics/PDP-8S/
&g
On 2018-11-03 7:24 p.m., Guy Dunphy via cctalk wrote:
> ...
> As for the LED color, how about super-bright blue? Or violet?
RGB, shimmering and cycling, of course.
/me runs
A huge thanks to everyone providing useful information and resource links, on
and off list.
My apologies; I'm a bit overloaded atm, and am getting behind on individual
replies.
I'm keeping all replies and will respond eventually.
About the front panel lights board:
It's a relief to discover that
these back together. alas I do no have now...
In a message dated 11/3/2018 11:31:03 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
cctalk@classiccmp.org writes:
On 11/02/2018 11:13 PM, Guy Dunphy via cctalk wrote:
> This is rather sad.
> I've received a PDP-8/S. It turns out to
One thought - it is possible that light panels from some
other model of computer, possibly not even PDP-8 related,
might be the same base PC board as the 8/S panel. DEC made
a LOT of light panels for all the CPUs and control units on
larger machines. At least some of them were made from the
On 11/02/2018 11:13 PM, Guy Dunphy via cctalk wrote:
This is rather sad.
I've received a PDP-8/S. It turns out to be missing so much, that it's probably
beyond restoration.
Anyone who can think of potential ways to find the missing parts, please speak
up.
http://everist.org/p
That is actually a great idea!
Even if you have covers for many different computers, the insides are
usually more fascinating than the outsides of a unit!
Ed # www.smecc.org
In a message dated 11/3/2018 7:14:33 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
cctalk@classiccmp
At 09:14 AM 3/11/2018 -0500, Adrian Stoness wrote:
>get some thick plexi glass to cover it and sit it up for display to look in
>but not touch ;)
Good idea! And easy to add to the simple base frame I had in mind. Zero changes
to the machine.
I was too stuck in modern fast digital thinking - 'RF
On Saturday, November 3, 2018 7:14 AM, Adrian Stoness via cctalk
wrote:
get some thick plexi glass to cover it and sit it up for display to look in
but not touch ;)
On Sat, Nov 3, 2018 at 9:08 AM Guy Dunphy via cctalk
wrote:
> At 04:34 AM 3/11/2018 -0700, Al Kossow wrote:
> >On 11/
get some thick plexi glass to cover it and sit it up for display to look in
but not touch ;)
On Sat, Nov 3, 2018 at 9:08 AM Guy Dunphy via cctalk
wrote:
> At 04:34 AM 3/11/2018 -0700, Al Kossow wrote:
> >On 11/3/18 1:00 AM, Guy Dunphy via cctalk wrote:
> >
> >> I only received this machine on T
At 04:34 AM 3/11/2018 -0700, Al Kossow wrote:
>On 11/3/18 1:00 AM, Guy Dunphy via cctalk wrote:
>
>> I only received this machine on Thursday, opened the box properly on Friday
>> and found it was missing such
>> such major parts. It belongs to the ACMS (Australian Computer Museum
>> Society) bu
On 11/3/18 4:34 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
On 11/3/18 1:00 AM, Guy Dunphy via cctalk wrote:
I only received this machine on Thursday, opened the box properly on Friday and
found it was missing such
such major parts. It belongs to the ACMS (Australian Computer Museum Society)
but with the
On 11/3/18 1:00 AM, Guy Dunphy via cctalk wrote:
I only received this machine on Thursday, opened the box properly on Friday and
found it was missing such
such major parts. It belongs to the ACMS (Australian Computer Museum Society)
but with the way things are
going with them and their storage
For the information of others with PDP 8 machines, my PDP-8/S came with some
original manuals, in good condition.
Sample: http://everist.org/pics/PDP-8S/20181103_1569_manuals.jpg
Here's a list of them. If by chance any of these are missing from scanned
collections online, please let me kn
At 11:40 PM 2/11/2018 -0500, you wrote:
>still supper clean id love to have that even
I know how you feel. I've never had _any_ possibility of finding an old PDP
machine before. Very happy to have this one.
Re dirt - actually it's pretty grimy. I did a preliminary dust off for the
pics, but lat
Bickley via cctalk cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>On Sat, 03 Nov 2018 15:13:16 +1100
>Guy Dunphy via cctalk wrote:
>
>> This is rather sad.
>> I've received a PDP-8/S. It turns out to be missing so much, that
>> it's probably beyond restoration. Anyone who
On Sat, Nov 3, 2018 at 1:12 AM Lyle Bickley via cctalk
wrote:
> On Sat, 03 Nov 2018 15:13:16 +1100
> Guy Dunphy via cctalk wrote:
>
> > This is rather sad.
> > I've received a PDP-8/S. It turns out to be missing so much, that
> > it's probably beyond
:
> This is rather sad.
> I've received a PDP-8/S. It turns out to be missing so much, that
> it's probably beyond restoration. Anyone who can think of potential
> ways to find the missing parts, please speak up.
>
> http://everist.org/pics/PDP-8S/
>
> Missing:
>
&
On Sat, 03 Nov 2018 15:13:16 +1100
Guy Dunphy via cctalk wrote:
> This is rather sad.
> I've received a PDP-8/S. It turns out to be missing so much, that
> it's probably beyond restoration. Anyone who can think of potential
> ways to find the missing parts, plea
still supper clean id love to have that even
> - Front panel PCB,
> - Case top AND bottom,
> - Power supply.
> - Some flip-chip slots are empty. Not sure if supposed to be.
It is actually not all that sad looking. The blinkenlights board will
be hard to find.
I might have a power supply.
It is likely it never had a top and bottom cover
This is rather sad.
I've received a PDP-8/S. It turns out to be missing so much, that it's probably
beyond restoration.
Anyone who can think of potential ways to find the missing parts, please speak
up.
http://everist.org/pics/PDP-8S/
Missing:
- Front panel PCB,
- Case top
From: Sean Caron
>
>I dunno, guys, that might be a little paranoid ... a lot of this
>stuff is big and heavy ... I just can't imagine a thief coming
>in and carting away PDP-11s, VAX-11s, RP/RL/TU drives,
>IBM mainframes, whole racks and the like
>
Nope. My wife used to work in commercial real e
well it is amazing what people that want meth will do...
they remind me of the creatures mutated in I AM LEGEND
but that is why Will needs to add a good alarm system on his building
and get 2 friends... the pitbulls named byteemintheass and
snapoffurballs if they in case the
On Sat, 13 Jun 2015, John Wilson wrote:
Re theft: yeah there's no way a random house burglar would bother
Are the middle of the night, in the rain, in the gutter, catalytic
converter thefts actually worth it?
Besides theft issues, there can be additional reasons for anonymity.
consider the
he circumstances, the catalog is always "behind" ;)
Regards,
Lyle
> In a message dated 6/12/2015 2:25:30 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
> a...@bitsavers.org writes:
>
> On 6/10/15 12:11 PM, Michael Thompson wrote:
> >> I know of 17 PDP-8/S systems, inc
On 6/13/2015 2:14 AM, Mike Ross wrote:
I have an old computer collection in the workshop.
I also have a gun collection in the house :-)
If anyone can *still* successfully make off with my pdps, they can
bloody have them! :D
Mike
Where did I put my shovel? Sigh 20+ years of digging however.
> Well, its the same with enigma's. all remaining machines are registered with
> their serialnumbers, So selling after stealing becomes very difficult. that
> is why a database with serialnumbers connected to people is crucial.
This is wrong. There are a fair amount of Enigmas in collections that
> I dunno, guys, that might be a little paranoid ... a lot of this stuff is
> big and heavy ... I just can't imagine a thief coming in and carting away
> PDP-11s, VAX-11s, RP/RL/TU drives, IBM mainframes, whole racks and the like
So I suppose I will just repost what I said on 8 May 2015 (not that
On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 04:41:26AM -0400, couryho...@aol.com wrote:
>John - Ref your 8S below - Happy to add this to the list.
>any other good background info as to prior users etc?
>yes if you can get the S/N will add that.
Will do on next visit. Dunno about past user (IIRC it has
good point Simon!
Ed#
In a message dated 6/13/2015 2:57:09 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
sim...@dds.nl writes:
Well, its the same with enigma's. all remaining machines are registered
with their serialnumbers, So selling after stealing becomes very difficult.
that is why a database w
Well, its the same with enigma's. all remaining machines are registered with their serialnumbers, So selling after stealing becomes very difficult. that is why a database with
serialnumbers connected to people is crucial.
On 13-06-15 09:55, couryho...@aol.com wrote:
I think the only people th
Rich.
did you want physical address listed too?
also need both s/n's
correctedurl at _www.smecc.org/pdp-8.htm_
(http://www.smecc.org/pdp-8.htm)
That address has not been current since 2010 or so.
Please use http://www.LivingComputerMuseum.org instead.
Thanks!
Rich
Rich Alders
I know of 17 PDP-8/S systems, including four at the RICM.
>
Last I heard, John Bordynuik still had one or two of them, but I
haven't spoken to him in years.
ic of
mine: http://www.corestore.org/pdp8m-1.jpg
Mike
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 7:56 AM, Fred Cisin wrote:
>>> I know of 17 PDP-8/S systems, including four at the RICM.
>>
>> Not everyone wants their collections to be public information but:
>
>
> If somebody we
sorry to do so many messages in the 8S topic thread tonight but I was
asleep for a day with massive migraine and am trying to catch up.
Ed#
In a message dated 6/12/2015 3:47:07 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
wil...@dbit.com writes:
Didn't see mine on there. PDP-8/S, s
PDP-S ( and Classic 8 too) in the intake form . . yes we are working up
an entry for with different fields in it.
Be aware though as soon as you say you HAVE ONE OF THOSE on this
list or any other
you have tagged yourself as having one. if someone wants your details
it does
That is NEAT! what application are they using it for and who is doing
the maint. on it?
Probably an interesting story there!
Ed#
In a message dated 6/12/2015 5:48:28 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
tdk.kni...@gmail.com writes:
been told of one in winnipeg. havent seen it to confirm t
Heh! The will have to pry my PDP 8 from my cold dead hands to get it
<>
In a message dated 6/13/2015 1:14:19 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
tmfdm...@gmail.com writes:
I have an old computer collection in the workshop.
I also have a gun collection in the house :-)
If anyone can *sti
I have an old computer collection in the workshop.
I also have a gun collection in the house :-)
If anyone can *still* successfully make off with my pdps, they can
bloody have them! :D
Mike
On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 2:52 AM, Sean Caron wrote:
> I dunno, guys, that might be a little paranoid ...
Well... we will accept anonymous entries for the listthat will be
public but the submitter will have to send us a nice photo of the unit
with s/n tag etc and their smiling face next to it for the non
published files! <>
I think the only people this month that have to
I dunno, guys, that might be a little paranoid ... a lot of this stuff is
big and heavy ... I just can't imagine a thief coming in and carting away
PDP-11s, VAX-11s, RP/RL/TU drives, IBM mainframes, whole racks and the like
... I can hardly move some of this stuff I have as one guy and it is
certai
; >
> > Let me second that. Particularly as the value of these things goes up,
> > security will be a real issue for people.
>
> Yes, I agree.
>
> So this is an official request from me to anyone that keeps such
> registries:
>
> If I am on any lists or registries
themselves to theft risk, and/or a deluge of "I'd
> > like to buy".
>
> Let me second that. Particularly as the value of these things goes up,
> security will be a real issue for people.
Yes, I agree.
So this is an official request from me to anyone that keeps su
> From: Fred Cisin
> If somebody were to try to make a "complete" list, it would make sense
> to provide variable levels of anonymity
> ...
> Prob'ly some people would be more willing to discuss what they have IFF
> they aren't opening themselves to theft risk, and/or a de
John Wilson has a PDP-8/S in storage, unknown serial #, needs restoration.
He got it in Michigan about 20 years ago.
On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 6:43 PM, wrote:
> Michael - Many thanks for the great start!
>
> Lyle ok added yours.. neat you have it working!
> what is the status o
On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 03:11:21PM -0400, Michael Thompson wrote:
>Not everyone wants their collections to be public information but:
Didn't see mine on there. PDP-8/S, serial # unknown (it's in storage),
needs restoration. I got it in Michigan about 20 years ago.
John Wilson
D Bit
On Wed, 10 Jun 2015, couryho...@aol.com wrote:
Fred yes all valid.
if we are to put them in the registry though we have to be sure
that have one if they go nameless.
like if we get a response like:
my name is rick I have s/n 2
OK, there would need to be SOME contact bac
On 6/10/2015 4:19 PM, Lyle Bickley wrote:
On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 18:43:51 -0400
couryho...@aol.com wrote:
Michael - Many thanks for the great start!
Lyle ok added yours.. neat you have it working!
what is the status of his other unit that was sold?
It's owned by another collector on t
any misc info people want to add could go in a comments
section... open to any and all suggestions!
Ed Sharpe _www.smecc.org_ (http://www.smecc.org)
In a message dated 6/10/2015 12:56:28 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
ci...@xenosoft.com writes:
>> I know of 17 P
5 12:44:00 P.M. US Mountain Standard
> Time, lbick...@bickleywest.com writes:
>
> On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 15:11:21 -0400
> Michael Thompson wrote:
>
> > > I know of 17 PDP-8/S systems, including four at the RICM.
> > > The RICM has an OMD8S data-break and
dp8m-1.jpg
Mike
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 7:56 AM, Fred Cisin wrote:
>>> I know of 17 PDP-8/S systems, including four at the RICM.
>>
>> Not everyone wants their collections to be public information but:
>
>
> If somebody were to try to make a "complete&quo
a message dated 6/10/2015 12:44:00 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
lbick...@bickleywest.com writes:
On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 15:11:21 -0400
Michael Thompson wrote:
> > I know of 17 PDP-8/S systems, including four at the RICM.
> > The RICM has an OMD8S data-break and memory expansion
ed up and
visible in the same place at the same time!
Oh 8/m has been discussed in front panel talk... here's a nice pic of
mine: http://www.corestore.org/pdp8m-1.jpg
Mike
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 7:56 AM, Fred Cisin wrote:
>>> I know of 17 PDP-8/S systems, including four at the RICM.
On 6/10/15 12:11 PM, Michael Thompson wrote:
I know of 17 PDP-8/S systems, including four at the RICM.
Last I heard, John Bordynuik still had one or two of them, but I
haven't spoken to him in years.
From: Michael Thompson
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 12:11 PM
> Living Computer Museum
> Two, unrestored
> http://www.pdpplanet.com
^
That address has not been current since 2010 or so.
Please use http://www.LivingComputerMuseum.org instead.
Thanks!
I know of 17 PDP-8/S systems, including four at the RICM.
Not everyone wants their collections to be public information but:
If somebody were to try to make a "complete" list, it would make sense to
provide variable levels of anonymity, such as name but not contact info,
state b
On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 15:11:21 -0400
Michael Thompson wrote:
> > I know of 17 PDP-8/S systems, including four at the RICM.
> > The RICM has an OMD8S data-break and memory expansion chassis for
> > an 8/S.
> >
>
> Not everyone wants their collections to be public
e tombs to spiff up and
> will pull the s/n at that time
That's a great idea. In addition, we should state if their status: As
is, partially restored, restored and partially running, restored and
passes all PDP-8/S diagnostics.
Regards,
Lyle
> In a message dated 6/9/2015 12
> I know of 17 PDP-8/S systems, including four at the RICM.
> The RICM has an OMD8S data-break and memory expansion chassis for an 8/S.
>
Not everyone wants their collections to be public information but:
S/N 127, Table Top, running, Sold on eBay 07/2003 for more than $3,000.
Rho
From: Michael Thompson
Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2015 12:05 PM
>> On Jun 9, 2015, at 2:56 PM, Lyle Bickley wrote:
>> On Tue, 9 Jun 2015 14:27:57 -0400
>> Michael Thompson wrote:
>>> I know of 17 PDP-8/S systems, including four at the RICM.
>>> The RIC
17 is still pretty scarce!
In a message dated 6/9/2015 11:57:04 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
lbick...@bickleywest.com writes:
> I know of 17 PDP-8/S systems, including four at the RICM.
> The RICM has an OMD8S data-break and memory expansion chassis for an
> 8/S.
e. ?Is there a an registry? ?
>>> Ed# ?smecc.org
>>>
>>> Ben.
>> I know of 17 PDP-8/S systems, including four at the RICM.
>> The RICM has an OMD8S data-break and memory expansion chassis for an
>> 8/S.
>
> Is there a registry somewhere for
>
> Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2015 12:26:07 -0700
> From: couryhouse
> Subject: Re: Front Panel Update
>
> 8s is rare?? ? We have one. ?Is there a an registry? ? Ed# ?smecc.org
>
> Ben.
>
>
I know of 17 PDP-8/S systems, including four at the RICM.
The RICM has an OMD8S d
: couryhouse
>>> Subject: Re: Front Panel Update
>>>
>>> 8s is rare?? ? We have one. ?Is there a an registry? ?
>>> Ed# ?smecc.org
>>>
>>> Ben.
>> I know of 17 PDP-8/S systems, including four at the RICM.
>> The RICM has an OMD8S d
On 6/9/2015 12:27 PM, Michael Thompson wrote:
Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2015 12:26:07 -0700
From: couryhouse
Subject: Re: Front Panel Update
8s is rare?? ? We have one. ?Is there a an registry? ? Ed# ?smecc.org
Ben.
I know of 17 PDP-8/S systems, including four at the RICM.
The RICM has an OMD8S
On Tue, 9 Jun 2015 14:27:57 -0400
Michael Thompson wrote:
> >
> > Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2015 12:26:07 -0700
> > From: couryhouse
> > Subject: Re: Front Panel Update
> >
> > 8s is rare?? ? We have one. ?Is there a an registry? ?
> > Ed# ?smecc.org
> >
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