Re: Old versions of Emacs

2016-10-22 Thread Mouse
>>> [...skull-and-crossbones with text warning...] >> That looks identical to the comment at the head of display.c from >> the Gosling derivative I use. > Yes, it's the same in the copy of Gosling Emacs I got. I asked > Gosling himself, and he referred me to Brian Reid. He got it from > Gosling i

Re: Old versions of Emacs

2016-10-22 Thread Lars Brinkhoff
Mouse writes: >> I seem to have stumbled upon a GNU Emacs 13.8. I'll post this > >> [...skull-and-crossbones with text warning...] > > That looks identical to the comment at the head of display.c from the > Gosling derivative I use. Presumably one is derived from the other...? Yes, it's the sam

Re: Old versions of Emacs

2016-10-22 Thread Mouse
> I seem to have stumbled upon a GNU Emacs 13.8. I'll post this > src/display.c snippet as evidence: > [...skull-and-crossbones with text warning...] That looks identical to the comment at the head of display.c from the Gosling derivative I use. Presumably one is derived from the other...? /~\

Re: Old versions of Emacs

2016-10-21 Thread Lars Brinkhoff
Chuck Guzis write: > Starting my trek through old tape archives, I can find EMACS (all caps) > mentioned in 1978. (MIT labs). Is there any earlier mention? Yes. Files in MIT's ITS systems documents the early EMACS history well. For example, MC:EAK;EMACS LORE. David Moon: > In August 1976, a b

Re: Old versions of Emacs

2016-10-21 Thread Chuck Guzis
Starting my trek through old tape archives, I can find EMACS (all caps) mentioned in 1978. (MIT labs). Is there any earlier mention? --Chuck

Re: Old versions of Emacs

2016-10-21 Thread Lars Brinkhoff
Chris Hanson wrote: > Do you have any of the “GNU” emacs versions that were derived from > Unipress/Gosling emacs, prior to the clean-room rewrite of the Gosmacs > code? (Were those ever widely distributed?) I seem to have stumbled upon a GNU Emacs 13.8. I'll post this src/display.c snippet as ev

Re: Old versions of Emacs

2016-10-21 Thread Ian S. King
On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 4:11 AM, Noel Chiappa wrote: > > From: Lars Brinkhoff > > > Emacs in 1983 would have been Gosling Emacs, I guess. > > Prior to that one, someone else at BBN (whose name I have forgotten, alas) > did an Emacs intended for PDP-11's running Unix. It wasn't programmabl

Re: Old versions of Emacs

2016-10-21 Thread Chris Hanson
Do you have any of the “GNU” emacs versions that were derived from Unipress/Gosling emacs, prior to the clean-room rewrite of the Gosmacs code? (Were those ever widely distributed?) — Chris

Re: Old versions of Emacs

2016-10-21 Thread Chuck Guzis
Did anyone mention MINCE--a micro version of Emacs? I recall a few friends using it back in the day... --Chuck

Re: Old versions of Emacs

2016-10-21 Thread Lars Brinkhoff
Noel Chiappa wrote: > I found some things which indicate the version I'm thinking of was > written by Warren Montgomery, of Bell Laboratories I found this reference, which makes your copy very interesting indeed: CCA EMACS is Zimmermans EMACS which is an extension of Warren Montgomery's E

Re: Old versions of Emacs

2016-10-21 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Lars Brinkhoff >> someone else at BBN (whose name I have forgotten, alas) > Sounds vaguely like MicroEMACS by Dave Conroy, but I suppose this is > something else? Unix V6 you say? Was it BBN PEN by David Barach, David > Taenzer, and Robert Wells? None of those names r

Re: Old versions of Emacs

2016-10-21 Thread Lars Brinkhoff
Noel Chiappa writes: > > Emacs in 1983 would have been Gosling Emacs, I guess. > > Prior to that one, someone else at BBN (whose name I have forgotten, > alas) did an Emacs intended for PDP-11's running Unix. It wasn't > programmable (the way 'real' Emacs is), perhaps because there was not > enough

Re: Old versions of Emacs

2016-10-21 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Lars Brinkhoff > Emacs in 1983 would have been Gosling Emacs, I guess. Prior to that one, someone else at BBN (whose name I have forgotten, alas) did an Emacs intended for PDP-11's running Unix. It wasn't programmable (the way 'real' Emacs is), perhaps because there was not enough

Re: Old versions of Emacs

2016-10-20 Thread Lars Brinkhoff
Chuck Guzis wrote: > Lars Brinkhoff wrote: >> Turns out 4.3BSD had a copy! > It goes back before then--I can remember using it on early BSD around > 1983. I can look around, if you're really curious. I am! I looked in 4.2BSD, but didn't find any Emacs. Emacs in 1983 would have been Gosling Emac

Re: Old versions of Emacs

2016-10-20 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 10/20/2016 02:58 PM, Lars Brinkhoff wrote: > Turns out 4.3BSD had a copy! It goes back before then--I can remember using it on early BSD around 1983. I can look around, if you're really curious. --Chuck

Re: Old versions of Emacs

2016-10-20 Thread Lars Brinkhoff
Warner Losh wrote: > Any chance you can share your archive? Oh, sure! For now, my most ethical repository is this: https://gitlab.com/larsbrinkhoff/emacs-history But I'd be happy to mirror it on savannah. > I went looking for emacs 17 years ago and couldn't find it... Turns out 4.3BSD had a cop

Re: Old versions of Emacs

2016-10-20 Thread Warner Losh
18 stuff only (maybe) Warner On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 6:23 AM, Lars Brinkhoff wrote: > Hello, > > I'm looking for old versions of Emacs. I want to preserve them for the > future. By "old", I mean roughly released before 1990. Or before GNU > Emacs 19.7. > > I&#

Old versions of Emacs

2016-10-20 Thread Lars Brinkhoff
Hello, I'm looking for old versions of Emacs. I want to preserve them for the future. By "old", I mean roughly released before 1990. Or before GNU Emacs 19.7. I'm interested in having the most complete set of GNU Emacs release there can be. Tarballs are great, but diffs a