Re: OT Parts houses & scrappers

2019-01-29 Thread Alan Perry via cctalk
On 1/29/19 12:45 PM, Marvin Johnston via cctalk wrote: Many times I find free to be far to expensive for most people including myself (think postage/shipping/prep time.) Aside from stuff like museum donations, I have found giving things away for free is usually a pain. In my experience,

Re: OT Parts houses & scrappers

2019-01-29 Thread Marvin Johnston via cctalk
Sorry, but no. It?s grossly offensive for things that work perfectly well and that someone might actually find useful to go to scrap. There?s tons of useless and broken junk that our civilization can mine for scrap, we don?t need to actually destroy things that have actual value. If someone is

Re: OT Parts houses & scrappers

2019-01-29 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
On 01/29/2019 05:38 AM, John Foust via cctalk wrote: Space is money. Organization is money. Information is money. Advertising / listing for sale takes time and money. And it all only gets worse if the item is heavy, dirty, or leaking. One of the most impressive (videos of) ""organization th

Re: OT Parts houses & scrappers

2019-01-29 Thread John Foust via cctalk
At 07:13 PM 1/28/2019, dwight via cctalk wrote: >When looking at the 45 minutes, also consider the various overheads involved. >They are in business. Time is money. Space is money. Organization is money. Information is money. Advertising / listing for sale takes time and money. And it all onl

Re: OT Parts houses & scrappers

2019-01-28 Thread dwight via cctalk
: cctalk on behalf of William Donzelli via cctalk Sent: Monday, January 28, 2019 4:24 PM To: Chris Hanson; General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: OT Parts houses & scrappers > If someone isn’t able to sell for the price they’d like to get, maybe the > market won’t

Re: OT Parts houses & scrappers

2019-01-28 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
> If someone isn’t able to sell for the price they’d like to get, maybe the > market won’t bear that price and they need to lower it. Scrapping should be a > course of last resort, a way to recover value from something you can’t even > give away, not a competing outlet for goods. But in this ca

Re: OT Parts houses & scrappers

2019-01-28 Thread Chris Hanson via cctalk
Sorry, but no. It’s grossly offensive for things that work perfectly well and that someone might actually find useful to go to scrap. There’s tons of useless and broken junk that our civilization can mine for scrap, we don’t need to actually destroy things that have actual value. If someone isn

Re: Re: OT Parts houses & scrappers

2019-01-26 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk
all the 3000 stuff too? sorry to hear that Al..  back in the 80s would visit him nice guy glad to hear he is,still alive.  ed# ... -Original Message- From: Al Kossow via cctalk To: cctalk Sent: Sat, Jan 26, 2019 07:49 PM Subject: Re: OT Parts houses & scrappers On 1/26/19 5:4

Re: OT Parts houses & scrappers

2019-01-26 Thread Sean Conner via cctalk
It was thus said that the Great Grant Taylor via cctalk once stated: > On 1/26/19 6:26 PM, William Donzelli via cctalk wrote: > >Learning how to judge scrap value is the first thing to do. Do research > >and gain experience. > > That sounds all well and good. Until you something unexpected and

Re: OT Parts houses & scrappers

2019-01-26 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 1/26/19 5:40 PM, ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote: > Is  Larry  at  Crisis computer still around? He is in Sacramento. Most of what he had was scrapped 15 years ago. A large number of Bay Area people were involved in saving what could be saved. I ended up with a lot of 9000/300 stuff. I didn't go

Re: OT Parts houses & scrappers

2019-01-26 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk
Is  Larry  at  Crisis computer still around? Jay  used to  know him  too back  years ago. Ed# In a message dated 1/26/2019 6:35:21 PM US Mountain Standard Time, cctalk@classiccmp.org writes: > That sounds all well and good.  Until you something unexpected and > unknown when you are at an auction

Re: OT Parts houses & scrappers

2019-01-26 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
> That sounds all well and good. Until you something unexpected and > unknown when you are at an auction for something else. There's only so > much self education you can do on a smart phone 10 minutes before the > auction. Start now with the research. You can gain quite a lot knowledge from the

Re: OT Parts houses & scrappers

2019-01-26 Thread Robert via cctalk
I spoke with Mike, last year, around the time they were closing their doors. I'm fuzzy on the details, now, but dimly recall something about them possibly trying to hold on to much of the stock, despite losing the warehouse, with the possibility of reopening in some shape or form. With that said,

Re: OT Parts houses & scrappers

2019-01-26 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
On 1/26/19 6:26 PM, William Donzelli via cctalk wrote: Learning how to judge scrap value is the first thing to do. Do research and gain experience. That sounds all well and good. Until you something unexpected and unknown when you are at an auction for something else. There's only so much s

Re: OT Parts houses & scrappers

2019-01-26 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
> I'm referring to times when I have absolutely no idea what is > reasonable. Learning how to judge scrap value is the first thing to do. Do research and gain experience. -- Will

Re: OT Parts houses & scrappers

2019-01-26 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
On 1/26/19 6:02 PM, William Donzelli via cctalk wrote: With that attitude, you will lose a lot more deals than you win. ... Don't be a cheapskate, basically. I think I came across wrong. I'm not trying to be a cheapskate. I have no objection at all to paying reasonable amounts that the mar

Re: OT Parts houses & scrappers

2019-01-26 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
> I would think knowing a minimum scrap value plus some reasonable > handling fees would be for things when conducting such deals. With that attitude, you will lose a lot more deals than you win. You have to beat scrap price by a *substantial* amount. You need to convince the dealer (or scrapper)

Re: OT Parts houses & scrappers

2019-01-26 Thread Glen Slick via cctalk
On Fri, Jan 25, 2019 at 9:48 AM Jay West via cctech wrote: > > Kudos to Jesse for working with me offlist, I feel I've gotten a good deal. I > appreciate the offers to help purchase, very much, but I got this taken care > of directly with Jesse and I'm happy. > > We have to understand, as others

Re: OT Parts houses & scrappers

2019-01-26 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk
Glad  to  Hear  Jay -  I guess the  timeshare systems  were about the only  thing  I  ever  saw  those board  sets in. ok~To  refile my  slightly  prior   message under   perhaps a better  title I have  one  foot in each HP community   The  real production one and the  Collection of  vintage HP

OT Parts houses & scrappers

2019-01-26 Thread Jay West via cctalk
Kudos to Jesse for working with me offlist, I feel I've gotten a good deal. I appreciate the offers to help purchase, very much, but I got this taken care of directly with Jesse and I'm happy. We have to understand, as others pointed out, that if no one speaks up for stuff at a price that can k

Re: OT Parts houses & scrappers

2019-01-26 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
On 1/25/19 10:35 AM, Jay West via cctech wrote: We have to understand, as others pointed out, that if no one speaks up for stuff at a price that can keep the parts houses in business then the parts won't be around. By the same token, the parts houses have to know we can't pay typical full price