All,
thanks for all input! Many useful things to follow up here. Trying to
summarize and including a bit more follow-up research. URL’s valid as of June
30, 2015, if you are reading this in the archive; folks suggesting good ideas
referenced by name, search nearby here in the archive for
All,
thanks for all input! Many useful things to follow up here. Trying to
summarize and including a bit more follow-up research. URL’s valid as of June
30, 2015, if you are reading this in the archive; folks suggesting good ideas
referenced by name, search nearby here in the archive for
Christian et al,
sorry for the somewhat off-topicness:
On Jun 21, 2015, at 5:56 PM, Christian Gauger-Cosgrove
wrote:
> The RPi comes with a free full version of Mathematica? That intrigues
> me; I've never used it before but I hear it's similar to MAPLE? (Then
> again in terms of CAS's
On 21 June 2015 at 18:21, Tapley, Mark wrote:
> It’s actually full V10 Mathematica, which was the thing that pushed me into
> getting it. It does depend on the web-link for lots of the help features, but
> I think is otherwise complete. It is also SLOW compared to most Mathematica
> platforms.
On Jun 21, 2015, at 9:49 AM, Douglas Taylor wrote:
> I purchased a Raspberry Pi recently and was surprised to find a version of
> Minecraft installed, I don't know anything about it but my son did. It sort
> of 'hooked' him into the Pi.
>
> Oh, and it also had Mathematica on it, a stripped d
On 6/20/2015 8:06 PM, William Donzelli wrote:
Right. Get 'em hooked on Minecraft, and then it'll be easier to push them into
harder drugs like VHDL later! :)
There is a good grain of truth to that. In complex Minecraft command
block systems, a programmer has to think about many, many tasks,
run
> Of course, real "stuff" is much better than pissing around in
> Minecraft. But hey if you can get a kid to find interest in
> programming via Minecraft of all things, I say that's still a success.
Yes, it would be great if we could hook 14 year old kids on
programming computers - but really, tha
On 21 June 2015 at 01:17, Toby Thain wrote:
> Except with pointless obfuscation and click'n'drool topping.
>
Did you ignore the whole "Nine Videos on How To Lua" and the "Giant
Video of FORTH-ness"?
Of course, real "stuff" is much better than pissing around in
Minecraft. But hey if you can get a
On 2015-06-20 8:06 PM, William Donzelli wrote:
Right. Get 'em hooked on Minecraft, and then it'll be easier to push them into
harder drugs like VHDL later! :)
There is a good grain of truth to that. In complex Minecraft command
block systems, a programmer has to think about many, many tasks,
r
> Right. Get 'em hooked on Minecraft, and then it'll be easier to push them
> into harder drugs like VHDL later! :)
There is a good grain of truth to that. In complex Minecraft command
block systems, a programmer has to think about many, many tasks,
running in parallel, each triggered by real tim
And one more mine craft thingy, with a raspberry pi twist:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/withpiper/piper-a-minecraft-toolbox-for-budding-engineers
They had these set up on pi day at the CHM and the kids involved really seemed
to get into the physical interfacing and puzzles.
Sent from m
> On Jun 20, 2015, at 15:00, Christian Gauger-Cosgrove
> wrote:
> So how do we make a 14 year old actually get interested in real world
> things as opposed to Minecraft? I think that old minicomputers would
> help get kids more interested in real world things, since the
> instruction set archite
On 20 June 2015 at 17:49, William Donzelli wrote:
> A 14 year old mind does not work that way. And Minecraft is like crack
> to 14 year olds.
>
Very true, very, very true.
So how do we make a 14 year old actually get interested in real world
things as opposed to Minecraft? I think that old minic
> On Jun 20, 2015, at 14:49, William Donzelli wrote:
>
>> Of course, real hardware, real logic, and "real" programming are
>> significantly better investments of one's time and are much preferred
>> to Minecraft. Though, when you throw mods into the mix Minecraft isn't
>> all *that* bad.
>
> A
> Of course, real hardware, real logic, and "real" programming are
> significantly better investments of one's time and are much preferred
> to Minecraft. Though, when you throw mods into the mix Minecraft isn't
> all *that* bad.
A 14 year old mind does not work that way. And Minecraft is like cra
On 20 June 2015 at 15:34, William Donzelli wrote:
> Good. He has picked up the ball, now let him run with it. Even in
> unmodded Minecraft, you can do some amazing things with the redstone
> logic coupled with command blocks (yes, Mr. Grumpy Man Thain, with
> redstone you can have real gates and f
t from my iPhone
On Jun 20, 2015, at 4:43 AM, Dave G4UGM wrote:
>> -Original Message-
>> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Mark J.
>> Blair
>> Sent: 20 June 2015 12:19
>> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
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> “minecraft physics” is already a derogatory term around the house. And,
> whether I encourage it or not, he’s already into building complicated
> redstone sequencers. I’m hoping at least to expand his horizons into
> real-world projects.
Good. He has picked up the ball, now let him run with i
On Jun 19, 2015, at 10:55 PM, Toby Thain wrote:
> On 2015-06-19 11:21 PM, Christian Gauger-Cosgrove wrote:
>> On 19 June 2015 at 22:38, William Donzelli wrote:
>>> Let him play Minecraft. Start with simple redstone contraptions, then
>>> move to command blocks.
>>>
>> I'm not ashamed to admit
> -Original Message-
> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Mouse
> Sent: 20 June 2015 13:54
> To: cctalk@classiccmp.org
> Subject: Re: OT: learner kits (was: Re: using new technology on old
machines)
>
> > Is there a reason to
> Is there a reason to prefer 7400 series over CD4000 series logic?
If you can find real TTL, yes, I would say so. It's less
static-sensitive and it's more tolerant to things like hooking two
outputs together by mistake.
But note that there are many chips that have more or less TTL
interf
> -Original Message-
> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Mark J.
> Blair
> Sent: 20 June 2015 12:19
> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
> Subject: Re: OT: learner kits (was: Re: using new technology on old
machines)
&
> On Jun 19, 2015, at 19:19 , Tapley, Mark wrote:
> He has a Raspberry Pi, which he pretty much contempts in favor of his
> laptop, which will play the modern version of MineCraft :-P, but presumably
> hooking those together might be fun.
I suspect that boards like the Raspberry Pi, Ard
On 6/19/2015 8:21 PM, Christian Gauger-Cosgrove wrote:
On 19 June 2015 at 22:38, William Donzelli wrote:
>Let him play Minecraft. Start with simple redstone contraptions, then
>move to command blocks.
>
I'm not ashamed to admit I (24 y/o) play Minecraft now and again (with
friends on their o
On 2015-06-19 11:21 PM, Christian Gauger-Cosgrove wrote:
On 19 June 2015 at 22:38, William Donzelli wrote:
Let him play Minecraft. Start with simple redstone contraptions, then
move to command blocks.
I'm not ashamed to admit I (24 y/o) play Minecraft now and again (with
friends on their own
On 19 June 2015 at 22:38, William Donzelli wrote:
> Let him play Minecraft. Start with simple redstone contraptions, then
> move to command blocks.
>
I'm not ashamed to admit I (24 y/o) play Minecraft now and again (with
friends on their own private servers). I'd suggest anyone serious
about tryin
> He has a Raspberry Pi, which he pretty much contempts in favor of his
> laptop, which will play the modern version of MineCraft :-P, but presumably
> hooking those together might be fun.
Let him play Minecraft. Start with simple redstone contraptions, then
move to command blocks.
--
W
An acquaintance just the other day showed me an Arduino experimenters kit that
came with breadboard, LEDs, jumpers, etc, all in a compartmentalised plastic
box for 28$CDN. Haven't used it myself, just saw it briefly. Maybe you want to
start him out at a lower level of logic than that though, or
4000 series are really much more static sensitive than bullet proof ttl
there are pros and cons to everything 4000 series can use a higher VCC
where ttl is 5V
if you plan using 4000 series get him a wrist strap and a bench pad to
attach it to
grounding it all to earth.
On 6/19/2015 7:19 PM, Taple
All,
My 14-year-old son has mentioned that he’d like a breadboard and some
parts to fool with, and the pointer below really helps. I have an old Archerkit
VOM already, and I’m thinking about turning him loose in August with the
discrete components part kit, the VOM, a box of logic parts,
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