[cctalk] Re: Mail veracity signing

2023-04-21 Thread Doc Shipley via cctalk
I got it, and vaxen.net is a private "virtualdomain" server running on a private email server. None of that is necessarily complicated but it's not your average Google Services mail domain. Thanks for the work you're putting in! Doc On 4/20/23 19:32, Dennis Boone via

[cctalk] Re: Mail veracity signing

2023-04-21 Thread KenUnix via cctalk
; change > > helps. > > > > > > paul > > > > > >> On Apr 20, 2023, at 8:32 PM, Dennis Boone via cctalk < > > cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > >> > > >> Folks, > > >> > > >> A heads up th

[cctalk] Re: Mail veracity signing

2023-04-20 Thread Tom Hunter via cctalk
; > > > Your note got through, that's a promising start. Let's hope this change > helps. > > > > paul > > > >> On Apr 20, 2023, at 8:32 PM, Dennis Boone via cctalk < > cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > >> > >> Folks, &g

[cctalk] Re: Mail veracity signing

2023-04-20 Thread Zane Healy via cctalk
2 PM, Dennis Boone via cctalk >> wrote: >> >> Folks, >> >> A heads up that I've turned on some mail veracity signing functionality >> in Mailman. One could hope it would just work, and that I made no >> mistakes in the configuration, but... :) >> >> I'm working on this to try to improve deliverability of list traffic. >> >> De >

[cctalk] Re: Mail veracity signing

2023-04-20 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
Your note got through, that's a promising start. Let's hope this change helps. paul > On Apr 20, 2023, at 8:32 PM, Dennis Boone via cctalk > wrote: > > Folks, > > A heads up that I've turned on some mail veracity signing functionality > in Mailman

[cctalk] Mail veracity signing

2023-04-20 Thread Dennis Boone via cctalk
Folks, A heads up that I've turned on some mail veracity signing functionality in Mailman. One could hope it would just work, and that I made no mistakes in the configuration, but... :) I'm working on this to try to improve deliverability of list traffic. De

Re: OT: mail provider recommendation

2022-06-11 Thread Don R via cctalk
If you are on the west coast, consider sonic.net Don Resor Sent from someone's iPhone > On Jun 10, 2022, at 10:44 PM, John Robertson via cctalk > wrote: > > There ain’t no such thing as a free lunch! > > What did you think would happen with large free email hosts? They round up > all the c

Re: OT: mail provider recommendation

2022-06-10 Thread Cameron Kaiser via cctalk
Ideally it would be a free > service (I don't store my messages on the server, but rather, download them > to my client, so I don't need a lot of storage), and also likely to remain > in operation for many years to come. I used to be a self-hoster for my E-mail, but I've rec

Re: OT: mail provider recommendation

2022-06-10 Thread John Robertson via cctalk
There ain’t no such thing as a free lunch! What did you think would happen with large free email hosts? They round up all the clients and then do what they like with them. Google mines emails for data. I use a private (paid) service via my web site host. I’ve been using it since around 1996.

OT: mail provider recommendation

2022-06-10 Thread Carlos Murillo via cctalk
My apologies for asking such an OT question, but I think you guys are the most likely to make really useful suggestions. Gmail has ceased to provide classic authorization for smtp, pop3 or IMAP access; they want users to employ their new authorization mechanisms. So, which email service do you g

Re: Way off topic: posting to the list using default Samsung Android Mail Client

2020-11-11 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 10 Nov 2020 at 19:27, Angel M Alganza via cctalk wrote: > Most of them, yes. Then there is K-9 mail for Android, > which almost makes me to not miss Mutt, when using the phone. Which is what I proposed in the first reply, complete with links. -- Liam Proven – Profile:

Re: Way off topic: posting to the list using default Samsung Android Mail Client

2020-11-11 Thread Ali via cctalk
sion is slated for release sure (BETAs are available for >evaluation). >> >> -Ali > >FWIW, I used to use K9 mail and liked it but it was crashing with a >large number of folders and emails in folders. > >I switched to Blue mail and it's worked well > >Todd

RE: Way off topic: posting to the list using default Samsung Android Mail Client

2020-11-11 Thread Ali via cctalk
> > FWIW, I used to use K9 mail and liked it but it was crashing with a > large number of folders and emails in folders. > > I switched to Blue mail and it's worked well Funny you say this; I just finished setting up K9 for my CCtalk email as a test case. Your message

Re: Way off topic: posting to the list using default Samsung Android Mail Client

2020-11-11 Thread Todd Goodman via cctalk
second look at it. I looked at it initially but then saw it hadn't been updated since 2018. However, looks like there is active working going on and a new version is slated for release sure (BETAs are available for evaluation). -Ali FWIW, I used to use K9 mail and liked it but it was crashing

RE: Way off topic: posting to the list using default Samsung Android Mail Client

2020-11-11 Thread Ali via cctalk
> If you want to write/reply to old-style plain-text email from a > fondleslab, then use K9Mail. It is the only mobile client I know of > that can handle bottom-posting, trimming quotes etc. Well K9 is getting a number of recs here so I will take a second look at it. I looked at it initially b

Re: Way off topic: posting to the list using default Samsung Android Mail Client

2020-11-10 Thread Angel M Alganza via cctalk
Hello, On 11/10/20 3:45 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: > Proper old-fashioned internet-standard email > is totally unknown to the authors of modern email clients, > such as for phones etc. Most of them, yes. Then there is K-9 mail for Android, which almost makes me to not miss M

Re: Way off topic: posting to the list using default Samsung Android Mail Client

2020-11-10 Thread Jason Howe via cctalk
On 11/10/20 3:45 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: Proper old-fashioned internet-standard email is totally unknown to the authors of modern email clients, such as for phones etc. Hell, even Gmail borked the display of plain text emails a while back. I started getting questions like, "What ha

Re: Way off topic: posting to the list using default Samsung Android Mail Client

2020-11-10 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 10 Nov 2020 at 11:31, Dave Wade G4UGM via cctalk wrote: > > That is like asking how do you fix Windows/10 MAIL app. It’s the default, it > sends and receives mail. If you want something that works better and gives > you control then you switch to a supported app. > There

RE: Way off topic: posting to the list using default Samsung Android Mail Client

2020-11-10 Thread Dave Wade G4UGM via cctalk
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk On Behalf Of Ali via cctalk > Sent: 10 November 2020 00:28 > To: 'Liam Proven' ; 'General Discussion: On-Topic and > Off-Topic Posts' > Subject: RE: Way off topic: posting to the list using default Samsung Android

RE: Way off topic: posting to the list using default Samsung Android Mail Client

2020-11-09 Thread Ali via cctalk
plain-text support) It does not. I think it looks at the MIME type of message to decide what to do. What it may have to do is when I try to top post. I.e. if I try to reply under the quoted original message then this seems to happen. However, if I type above the quoted message it does not happ

Re: Way off topic: posting to the list using default Samsung Android Mail Client

2020-11-09 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
I had to force breaks, extra space, tabs, etc. Try putting in (less than, b r , greater than) See whether it gives us that literally, or puts in a break. Is the mail client sending directly, or is it relaying it through something else?

RE: Way off topic: posting to the list using default Samsung Android Mail Client

2020-11-09 Thread Ali via cctalk
> > Any > > ideas/suggestions? TIA! > > https://k9mail.app/ > > https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fsck.k9&hl=en&gl=US > I should have been more clear: any ideas on how can I fix the default email client (as it works very well for me aside from this one issue). :D Thanks. -Ali

Re: Way off topic: posting to the list using default Samsung Android Mail Client

2020-11-09 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 10 Nov 2020 at 00:44, Ali via cctalk wrote: > Any > ideas/suggestions? TIA! https://k9mail.app/ https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fsck.k9&hl=en&gl=US -- Liam Proven – Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk – gMail/gTalk/gHangouts: lpro...@gmail.c

Way off topic: posting to the list using default Samsung Android Mail Client

2020-11-09 Thread Ali via cctalk
: --- > Can it still be registered?>Is the Author find able? Do he still have 8" floppies? > *** Will it NOT be lost in the mail with COVID 19 ***A deep googlefu might find the author... just saying...;) --- However, when I sent it, it looked like this: > Can it still be re

Re: Mail

2020-10-07 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
On 10/7/20 8:45 AM, Tomas By via cctalk wrote: the cc:Mail PO would need to periodically (ie constantly) check for new mail from the provider, and collect it. /Something/ needs to periodically check for new mail from the provider. I don't think that it needs to necessarily be the cc:Ma

Re: Mail

2020-10-07 Thread Tomas By via cctalk
Hi again, I think sending out is already covered, the problematic bit is that for this to work in the modern "ecosystem", the cc:Mail PO would need to periodically (ie constantly) check for new mail from the provider, and collect it. There are probably other things I am missing als

RE: Mail

2020-10-07 Thread Dave Wade G4UGM via cctalk
..@gmail.com > Cc: 'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts' > > Subject: Re: Mail > > Hi, > > Yes, I did find documents on VIM, but there is also the API to the PO to > consider. > > In the Lotus cc:Mail developer kit, do you think there is enough

Re: Mail

2020-10-07 Thread Tomas By via cctalk
Hi, Yes, I did find documents on VIM, but there is also the API to the PO to consider. In the Lotus cc:Mail developer kit, do you think there is enough stuff to put together a "reverse client" -- an app that gets mail from a modern email provider using POP/IMAP/whatever it is? /Toma

RE: Mail

2020-10-07 Thread Dave Wade G4UGM via cctalk
Thomas, This API connection for cc:mail is Lotus VIM, vendor independent mail except only lotus every implemented it. Somewhere I had some code that would interface to VIM but I have no idea where it is now. I think it listened for a local SMTP connection and then sent it via cc:mail. I think the

RE: Synchronous serial Re: E-Mail Formats RE: Future of cctalk/cctech

2020-06-19 Thread Peter Coghlan via cctalk
Dave Wade wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: Ethan Dicks > > Sent: 19 June 2020 15:44 > > To: Dave Wade ; General Discussion: On-Topic > > and Off-Topic Posts > > Subject: Re: Synchronous serial Re: E-Mail Formats RE: Future of > > cctalk/cc

Re: Synchronous serial Re: E-Mail Formats RE: Future of cctalk/cctech

2020-06-19 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Jun 19, 2020, at 10:43 AM, Ethan Dicks via cctalk > wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 4:26 AM Dave Wade via cctalk > wrote: >> Its been ages since I did this but looking here >> >> https://www.aggsoft.com/rs232-pinout-cable/RS232.htm >> >> I see we have a transmit clock output on pin

Re: Synchronous serial Re: E-Mail Formats RE: Future of cctalk/cctech

2020-06-19 Thread Antonio Carlini via cctalk
On 19/06/2020 11:07, Peter Coghlan via cctalk wrote: I already tried extracting ZSDRIVER.EXE from the DECnet/OSI kit for VAX/VMS 7.3 and placing it in SYS$LOADABLE_IMAGES but ZSA0: remained stubbornly offline until I installed the rest of DECnet/OSI and the LES$ACP_V30 process started. I think

Re: Synchronous serial Re: E-Mail Formats RE: Future of cctalk/cctech

2020-06-19 Thread Paul Berger via cctalk
On 2020-06-19 11:43 a.m., Ethan Dicks via cctalk wrote: On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 4:26 AM Dave Wade via cctalk wrote: Its been ages since I did this but looking here https://www.aggsoft.com/rs232-pinout-cable/RS232.htm I see we have a transmit clock output on pin 24, transmit clock input on

RE: Synchronous serial Re: E-Mail Formats RE: Future of cctalk/cctech

2020-06-19 Thread Dave Wade via cctalk
> -Original Message- > From: Ethan Dicks > Sent: 19 June 2020 15:44 > To: Dave Wade ; General Discussion: On-Topic > and Off-Topic Posts > Subject: Re: Synchronous serial Re: E-Mail Formats RE: Future of > cctalk/cctech > > On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 4:26 AM Da

Re: Synchronous serial Re: E-Mail Formats RE: Future of cctalk/cctech

2020-06-19 Thread Ethan Dicks via cctalk
On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 4:26 AM Dave Wade via cctalk wrote: > Its been ages since I did this but looking here > > https://www.aggsoft.com/rs232-pinout-cable/RS232.htm > > I see we have a transmit clock output on pin 24, transmit clock input on 15 > and RX clock input on 17. > So if on checking w

Re: Synchronous serial Re: E-Mail Formats RE: Future of cctalk/cctech

2020-06-19 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Jun 19, 2020, at 6:07 AM, Peter Coghlan via cctalk > wrote: > >> ... > > The specifications manual says that the maximum speed for the DST32 is > 19200 bps (for HDLC or SDLC) or 9600 bps (for DDCMP) but worryingly > doesn't list a speed for BISYNC which is what I want to do with it :-(

Re: Synchronous serial Re: E-Mail Formats RE: Future of cctalk/cctech

2020-06-19 Thread Peter Coghlan via cctalk
Antonio Carlini wrote: On 18/06/2020 14:06, Peter Coghlan via cctalk wrote: > > I have found the whole thing very confusing too.  My suspicion was also > that they were pretty much the same thing but the DST32 had exernal > connectors suitable for mounting in a MicroVAX 2000 while the DST32 had >

Re: Synchronous serial Re: E-Mail Formats RE: Future of cctalk/cctech

2020-06-19 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 12:21:14AM +0100, Pete Turnbull via cctalk wrote: > [...] Some of the UK banking systems like HOBS survived using viewdata that > way up to the end of the 1990s, and I still have at least a couple of 1275 > modems. Hobbyists are still running Viewdata BBSes. Here's one conn

RE: Synchronous serial Re: E-Mail Formats RE: Future of cctalk/cctech

2020-06-19 Thread Dave Wade via cctalk
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk On Behalf Of Peter Coghlan > via cctalk > Sent: 18 June 2020 23:11 > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > > Subject: Re: Synchronous serial Re: E-Mail Formats RE: Future of > cctalk/cctech > > Ethan D

Re: Synchronous serial Re: E-Mail Formats RE: Future of cctalk/cctech

2020-06-18 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Jun 18, 2020, at 5:47 PM, Antonio Carlini via cctalk > wrote: > > ... >> Anyway, this whole line of attack is fairly academic as the modems can >> only do 48kbps - 160kbps and the maximum for the DSH/T32 seems to be >> 19200bps. >> > > I'd be surprised if they don't work at up to 56k a

Re: Synchronous serial Re: E-Mail Formats RE: Future of cctalk/cctech

2020-06-18 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Jun 18, 2020, at 7:21 PM, Pete Turnbull via cctalk > wrote: > > On 18/06/2020 21:31, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: > >> I did see something vaguely similar. Bell 202 modems are 1200 baud FSK, so >> on a voice channel they normally are 1200 bps half duplex. They can also be >> hooked

Re: Synchronous serial Re: E-Mail Formats RE: Future of cctalk/cctech

2020-06-18 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Jun 18, 2020, at 5:55 PM, Peter Coghlan via cctalk > wrote: > > ... > I can rustle up +/-12V with a bench supply or two but I don't have a > 1488 handy. I should be able to borrow a MAX232 from something though. > I don't have any baud rate generators lying around either. How about a >

Re: Synchronous serial Re: E-Mail Formats RE: Future of cctalk/cctech

2020-06-18 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 6/18/20 2:55 PM, Peter Coghlan via cctalk wrote: > Ethan Dicks wrote: > I can rustle up +/-12V with a bench supply or two but I don't have a > 1488 handy. I should be able to borrow a MAX232 from something though. > I don't have any baud rate generators lying around either. How about a > 555

Re: mail on spool as G-d intended was Re: Future of cctalk/cctech

2020-06-18 Thread Chris Zach via cctalk
Sometimes I'll log into alembic and read my mail with BABYL. On 6/18/2020 6:03 PM, Eric Korpela via cctalk wrote: I used to use netcat, but now I just watch an oscilloscope. On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 1:41 PM Cameron Kaiser via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: I read this l

Re: Synchronous serial Re: E-Mail Formats RE: Future of cctalk/cctech

2020-06-18 Thread Pete Turnbull via cctalk
On 18/06/2020 21:31, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: I did see something vaguely similar. Bell 202 modems are 1200 baud FSK, so on a voice channel they normally are 1200 bps half duplex. They can also be hooked up to 4-wire fixed circuits. But they have a reverse channel, good for 150 baud i

Re: mail on spool as G-d intended was Re: Future of cctalk/cctech

2020-06-18 Thread Pete Turnbull via cctalk
On 18/06/2020 23:03, Eric Korpela via cctalk wrote: I used to use netcat, but now I just watch an oscilloscope. Reminds me of a cartoon in a HiFi mag several years ago. Enthusiast talking to friend in front of dual 'scopes, "Why listen to it when I can see it's perfect?" -- Pete Pete Turnb

Re: Synchronous serial Re: E-Mail Formats RE: Future of cctalk/cctech

2020-06-18 Thread Peter Coghlan via cctalk
Ethan Dicks wrote: > On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 2:42 PM Peter Coghlan via cctalk > wrote: > > Thanks for your reply Paul. My eventual goal is to be able to use the > > synchronous serial interface on a MicroVAX to connect to IBM machines that > > only support bisync lines. > > I'm curious which sof

Re: Synchronous serial Re: E-Mail Formats RE: Future of cctalk/cctech

2020-06-18 Thread Ethan Dicks via cctalk
On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 6:08 PM Peter Coghlan via cctalk wrote: > Ethan Dicks wrote: > > As for the clocking, yes, a modem or modem eliminator provides the > > baud rate clocking on pins 15 and 17. You could use any one of a > > number of baud rate generators... > I can rustle up +/-12V with a b

Re: Synchronous serial Re: E-Mail Formats RE: Future of cctalk/cctech

2020-06-18 Thread Peter Coghlan via cctalk
Ethan Dicks wrote: > On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 5:53 AM Peter Coghlan via cctalk > wrote: > > To get somewhere near back on topic, I am trying to set up a synchronous > > serial link between two MicroVAX 3100 machines with DSH32 (or DST32 maybe) > > interfaces. One of the options I have is a BC19D c

Re: mail on spool as G-d intended was Re: Future of cctalk/cctech

2020-06-18 Thread Eric Korpela via cctalk
I used to use netcat, but now I just watch an oscilloscope. On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 1:41 PM Cameron Kaiser via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > > I read this list on PINE, on a shell account at my ISP. > > > > Barbarian! At least upgrade to Alpine. (That's what I use.) :D > > Philisti

Re: Synchronous serial Re: E-Mail Formats RE: Future of cctalk/cctech

2020-06-18 Thread Peter Coghlan via cctalk
Paul Koning wrote: > > > On Jun 18, 2020, at 2:14 PM, Peter Coghlan via cctalk > > > ... > > As I mentioned in another reply, I have a pair of baseband synchronous mode > > and were it not for a speed incompatibility between them and the MicroVAX > > synchronous serial interfaces I have access to,

Re: Synchronous serial Re: E-Mail Formats RE: Future of cctalk/cctech

2020-06-18 Thread Antonio Carlini via cctalk
On 18/06/2020 14:06, Peter Coghlan via cctalk wrote: I have found the whole thing very confusing too.  My suspicion was also that they were pretty much the same thing but the DST32 had exernal connectors suitable for mounting in a MicroVAX 2000 while the DST32 had external connectors that could

Re: Synchronous serial Re: E-Mail Formats RE: Future of cctalk/cctech

2020-06-18 Thread Paul Berger via cctalk
On 2020-06-18 3:34 p.m., Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: On 6/18/20 6:06 AM, Peter Coghlan via cctalk wrote: and I also have two Nokia DS 60100 baseband modems, one with a V.35 interface card and one with an X.21 interface card.  When I hook up the former with the BC19F cable, I can get the lig

Re: Synchronous serial Re: E-Mail Formats RE: Future of cctalk/cctech

2020-06-18 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Jun 18, 2020, at 3:26 PM, Ethan Dicks via cctalk > wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 3:08 PM Chuck Guzis via cctalk > wrote: >> On 6/18/20 11:55 AM, Ethan Dicks via cctalk wrote: >> >>> We used to run our sync serial stuff between 9600 and 56kbps, both our >>> own Bisync products, and

Re: mail on spool as G-d intended was Re: Future of cctalk/cctech

2020-06-18 Thread ben via cctalk
On 6/18/2020 6:33 AM, Jan-Benedict Glaw via cctalk wrote: Indeed. I get quite a lot of emails and mutt allows me to properly fight back. err Mutt bites back. I use whats free. Ben.

Re: Synchronous serial Re: E-Mail Formats RE: Future of cctalk/cctech

2020-06-18 Thread Ethan Dicks via cctalk
On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 3:08 PM Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > On 6/18/20 11:55 AM, Ethan Dicks via cctalk wrote: > > > We used to run our sync serial stuff between 9600 and 56kbps, both our > > own Bisync products, and DDCMP over interfaces like the one that's > > part of the DMF32... > > My rec

Re: Synchronous serial Re: E-Mail Formats RE: Future of cctalk/cctech

2020-06-18 Thread Maciej W. Rozycki via cctalk
On Thu, 18 Jun 2020, Peter Coghlan via cctalk wrote: > However, Peter uses PMDF MAIL to post to the list because it has been > pointed out to him that VMS MAIL doesn't do References: and In-Reply-To: > headers correctly. On that note, has anyone heard from Mouse? I haven

Re: Synchronous serial Re: E-Mail Formats RE: Future of cctalk/cctech

2020-06-18 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 6/18/20 11:55 AM, Ethan Dicks via cctalk wrote: > We used to run our sync serial stuff between 9600 and 56kbps, both our > own Bisync products, and DDCMP over interfaces like the one that's > part of the DMF32. We had customers in Europe running our products at > 64kbps with no problems, and w

Re: Synchronous serial Re: E-Mail Formats RE: Future of cctalk/cctech

2020-06-18 Thread Ethan Dicks via cctalk
On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 2:42 PM Peter Coghlan via cctalk wrote: > Thanks for your reply Paul. My eventual goal is to be able to use the > synchronous serial interface on a MicroVAX to connect to IBM machines that > only support bisync lines. I'm curious which software package you are using. In

Re: Synchronous serial Re: E-Mail Formats RE: Future of cctalk/cctech

2020-06-18 Thread Ethan Dicks via cctalk
On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 2:48 PM Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: > > On Jun 18, 2020, at 2:14 PM, Peter Coghlan via cctalk > > wrote: > > As I mentioned in another reply, I have a pair of baseband synchronous > > modems > > and were it not for a speed incompatibility between them and the MicroVAX

Re: Synchronous serial Re: E-Mail Formats RE: Future of cctalk/cctech

2020-06-18 Thread Ethan Dicks via cctalk
On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 5:53 AM Peter Coghlan via cctalk wrote: > To get somewhere near back on topic, I am trying to set up a synchronous > serial link between two MicroVAX 3100 machines with DSH32 (or DST32 maybe) > interfaces. One of the options I have is a BC19D cable and a BC19V cable > whic

Re: Synchronous serial Re: E-Mail Formats RE: Future of cctalk/cctech

2020-06-18 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Jun 18, 2020, at 2:14 PM, Peter Coghlan via cctalk > wrote: > > ... > As I mentioned in another reply, I have a pair of baseband synchronous modems > and were it not for a speed incompatibility between them and the MicroVAX > synchronous serial interfaces I have access to, ... I'm curio

Re: Synchronous serial Re: E-Mail Formats RE: Future of cctalk/cctech

2020-06-18 Thread Peter Coghlan via cctalk
Paul Berger wrote: On 2020-06-18 6:06 a.m., Peter Coghlan via cctalk wrote: > > > To get somewhere near back on topic, I am trying to set up a synchronous > serial link between two MicroVAX 3100 machines with DSH32 (or DST32 maybe) > interfaces. One of the options I have is a BC19D cable and a B

Re: Synchronous serial Re: E-Mail Formats RE: Future of cctalk/cctech

2020-06-18 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 6/18/20 6:06 AM, Peter Coghlan via cctalk wrote: > and I also have two Nokia DS 60100 baseband modems, one with a V.35 > interface card and one with an X.21 interface card.  When I hook up the > former with the BC19F cable, I can get the lights on the modem to react > when I try to access ZSA0:

Re: Synchronous serial Re: E-Mail Formats RE: Future of cctalk/cctech

2020-06-18 Thread Peter Coghlan via cctalk
Antonio Carlini wrote: On 18/06/2020 10:06, Peter Coghlan via cctalk wrote: > > To get somewhere near back on topic, I am trying to set up a synchronous > serial link between two MicroVAX 3100 machines with DSH32 (or DST32 maybe) > interfaces. One of the options I have is a BC19D cable and a BC1

Re: E-Mail Formats RE: Future of cctalk/cctech

2020-06-18 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 09:42:16AM +0100, Dave Wade via cctalk wrote: [...] > I wrote this as one dollar => $1.00 > This as one pound => $1 > And this as one euro => €1 > Lastly one cent => ¢1 This came over the wire as follows: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > Content-Transfer-Encod

Re: mail on spool as G-d intended was Re: Future of cctalk/cctech

2020-06-18 Thread Jan-Benedict Glaw via cctalk
On Wed, 2020-06-17 16:44:26 -0400, Diane Bruce via cctalk wrote: > On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 01:41:39PM -0700, Cameron Kaiser via cctalk wrote: > > > > I read this list on PINE, on a shell account at my ISP. > > > > > > Barbarian! At least upgrade to Alpine. (That's what I use.) :D > > > > Phili

Re: Synchronous serial Re: E-Mail Formats RE: Future of cctalk/cctech

2020-06-18 Thread Paul Berger via cctalk
On 2020-06-18 6:06 a.m., Peter Coghlan via cctalk wrote: To get somewhere near back on topic, I am trying to set up a synchronous serial link between two MicroVAX 3100 machines with DSH32 (or DST32 maybe) interfaces. One of the options I have is a BC19D cable and a BC19V cable which seem to

Re: E-Mail Formats RE: Future of cctalk/cctech

2020-06-18 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Thu, 18 Jun 2020 at 11:10, ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote: > > Dave -- I suppose the solve is to write it out long hand as in > One Dollar One Cent One Pound... Dear hypothetical deities, no. That causes problems with translation, people not knowing the name of another country's c

Re: E-Mail Formats RE: Future of cctalk/cctech

2020-06-18 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Thu, 18 Jun 2020 at 10:42, Dave Wade via cctalk wrote: > > I wrote this as one dollar => $1.00 Dollar symbol, one > This as one pound => $1 Dollar symbol, 1 > And this as one euro => €1 Euro symbol, one > Lastly one cent => ¢1 Cent symbol, one Fascinating. -- Liam Proven – Profile: ht

Re: Synchronous serial Re: E-Mail Formats RE: Future of cctalk/cctech

2020-06-18 Thread Antonio Carlini via cctalk
On 18/06/2020 10:06, Peter Coghlan via cctalk wrote: To get somewhere near back on topic, I am trying to set up a synchronous serial link between two MicroVAX 3100 machines with DSH32 (or DST32 maybe) interfaces. One of the options I have is a BC19D cable and a BC19V cable which seem to be iden

Re: Synchronous serial Re: E-Mail Formats RE: Future of cctalk/cctech

2020-06-18 Thread Peter Coghlan via cctalk
is as one pound => $1 > And this as one euro => €1 > Lastly one cent => ¢1 > > I expect you all get that as sent except for perhaps the Euro which didn't > exist when Peters VAX was built > ... but on an old UK EBCDIC mainframe Dollar becomes Pound and Cent be

Re: E-Mail Formats RE: Future of cctalk/cctech

2020-06-18 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk
;t exist when Peters VAX was built... but on an old UK EBCDIC mainframe Dollar becomes Pound and Cent becomes dollar. This was a real pain as a UK user of Bitnet.  Dave > Let me get this straight.  If I stop using VMS MAIL for this list and use one of> these new fangled things in

E-Mail Formats RE: Future of cctalk/cctech

2020-06-18 Thread Dave Wade via cctalk
he Euro which didn't exist when Peters VAX was built ... but on an old UK EBCDIC mainframe Dollar becomes Pound and Cent becomes dollar. This was a real pain as a UK user of Bitnet. Dave > Let me get this straight. If I stop using VMS MAIL for this list and use one > of >

Re: mail on spool as G-d intended was Re: Future of cctalk/cctech

2020-06-17 Thread Chris Elmquist via cctalk
> On Jun 17, 2020, at 3:46 PM, Diane Bruce via cctalk > wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 01:41:39PM -0700, Cameron Kaiser via cctalk wrote: I read this list on PINE, on a shell account at my ISP. >>> >>> Barbarian! At least upgrade to Alpine. (That's what I use.) :D >> >> Philistin

Re: mail on spool as G-d intended was Re: Future of cctalk/cctech

2020-06-17 Thread Chris Elmquist via cctalk
> On Jun 17, 2020, at 3:43 PM, Cameron Kaiser via cctalk > wrote: > >  >> >>> I read this list on PINE, on a shell account at my ISP. >> >> Barbarian! At least upgrade to Alpine. (That's what I use.) :D > > Philistines, all of you. I use a hacked version of Elm. And what’s wrong with Mu

Re: mail on spool as G-d intended was Re: Future of cctalk/cctech

2020-06-17 Thread Cameron Kaiser via cctalk
> > > > > I read this list on PINE, on a shell account at my ISP. > > > > > > > > Barbarian! At least upgrade to Alpine. (That's what I use.) :D > > > > > > Philistines, all of you. I use a hacked version of Elm. > > >

Re: mail on spool as G-d intended was Re: Future of cctalk/cctech

2020-06-17 Thread Mark Linimon via cctalk
On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 04:44:26PM -0400, Diane Bruce via cctalk wrote: > mutt! +1

Re: mail on spool as G-d intended was Re: Future of cctalk/cctech

2020-06-17 Thread Dennis Boone via cctalk
> > > > I read this list on PINE, on a shell account at my ISP. > > > Barbarian! At least upgrade to Alpine. (That's what I use.) :D > > Philistines, all of you. I use a hacked version of Elm. > mutt! `less`, out of system spool. De

Re: mail on spool as G-d intended was Re: Future of cctalk/cctech

2020-06-17 Thread Diane Bruce via cctalk
On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 01:41:39PM -0700, Cameron Kaiser via cctalk wrote: > > > I read this list on PINE, on a shell account at my ISP. > > > > Barbarian! At least upgrade to Alpine. (That's what I use.) :D > > Philistines, all of you. I use a hacked version of Elm. mutt! > -- >

mail on spool as G-d intended was Re: Future of cctalk/cctech

2020-06-17 Thread Cameron Kaiser via cctalk
> > I read this list on PINE, on a shell account at my ISP. > > Barbarian! At least upgrade to Alpine. (That's what I use.) :D Philistines, all of you. I use a hacked version of Elm. -- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap

Re: mail by old path?

2020-01-19 Thread drlegendre . via cctalk
I'm suddenly receiving cctalk mails again as well. What's going on? Unsubbed months ago. On Sun, Jan 19, 2020, 11:54 PM crufta cat via cctalk wrote: > OK so I got tons of duplicate mails and also spam and unsubed the > old address. That both fixed the spam and the duplicate mails. > > Today I g

mail by old path?

2020-01-19 Thread crufta cat via cctalk
OK so I got tons of duplicate mails and also spam and unsubed the old address. That both fixed the spam and the duplicate mails. Today I get 10 emails from the list *to the old address* about bitsavers being down and maybe the list. Is there two servers with maybe with my old address still inta

Re: setting reply to in VMS 5.x MAIL

2019-06-04 Thread Bill Degnan via cctalk
r example to set your Reply-To: header to > fn...@flowers.com, use the command: > > $ DEFINE MULTINET_SMTP_REPLY_TO "fn...@flowers.com" > > This logical name only affects mail agents that use the SMTP% interface > (for > example OpenVMS and DECWindows mail). > > Endquote. &

Re: setting reply to in VMS 5.x MAIL

2019-06-04 Thread Peter Coghlan via cctalk
> > > > > > > > To: cctech > > > > Subject: setting reply to in VMS 5.x MAIL > > > > > > > > Is there a way to set the reply-to value in VMS 5 mail? I want to > > send mail as > > > > SYSTEM but anyone who receives th

Re: setting reply to in VMS 5.x MAIL

2019-06-04 Thread Bill Degnan via cctalk
ter.net), I want the reply to > > go to sys...@aliasdomain.com and I want this address to appear in the > > header of the email message. > > This is not an answer to your original question, but it might be a work > around. > > Can you set MX records for the microvax3100.

Re: setting reply to in VMS 5.x MAIL

2019-06-04 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
ssage. This is not an answer to your original question, but it might be a work around. Can you set MX records for the microvax3100.vintagecomputer.net domain to route mail to the system hosting the aliasdomain.com domain? Obviously the system hosting the aliasdomain.com domain would also nee

Re: setting reply to in VMS 5.x MAIL

2019-06-04 Thread Bill Degnan via cctalk
correction to my earlier wording: > > So when someone replies to an email from the server I don't want the reply > to come from the actual sender or it will bounce. > I mean I don't want the reply to go directly to the original sender email address (sys...@microvax3100.vintagecomputer.net), I w

Re: setting reply to in VMS 5.x MAIL

2019-06-04 Thread Bill Degnan via cctalk
> > > > > To: cctech > > > Subject: setting reply to in VMS 5.x MAIL > > > > > > Is there a way to set the reply-to value in VMS 5 mail? I want to > send mail as > > > SYSTEM but anyone who receives the message on the outside world who >

RE: setting reply to in VMS 5.x MAIL

2019-06-04 Thread Peter Coghlan via cctalk
ech > > Sent: 04 June 2019 03:28 > > To: cctech > > Subject: setting reply to in VMS 5.x MAIL > > > > Is there a way to set the reply-to value in VMS 5 mail? I want to send > > mail as > > SYSTEM but anyone who receives the message on the outside world who

RE: setting reply to in VMS 5.x MAIL

2019-06-04 Thread Dave Wade via cctalk
; Subject: setting reply to in VMS 5.x MAIL > > Is there a way to set the reply-to value in VMS 5 mail? I want to send mail > as > SYSTEM but anyone who receives the message on the outside world who > wants to reply I'd like it go to to a different email address. > > I

setting reply to in VMS 5.x MAIL

2019-06-03 Thread Bill Degnan via cctalk
Is there a way to set the reply-to value in VMS 5 mail? I want to send mail as SYSTEM but anyone who receives the message on the outside world who wants to reply I'd like it go to to a different email address. I am working to solve the problem myself, but if anyone knows already and can

Re: e-mail, character sets, encodings (was Re: George Keremedjiev)

2018-11-25 Thread Toby Thain via cctalk
On 2018-11-25 7:45 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: > It's not a mailing list problem.  It's not even a mail problem. It's a > > Mail User Agent problem.  It is a display problem.  It is up to the > > users mail program to display the email as it was sent. 

Re: e-mail, character sets, encodings (was Re: George Keremedjiev)

2018-11-25 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
It's not a mailing list problem.  It's not even a mail problem. It's a Mail User Agent problem.  It is a display problem.  It is up to the users mail program to display the email as it was sent.  Unless the user doesn't want to see anything in character sets other than thei

Re: e-mail, character sets, encodings (was Re: George Keremedjiev)

2018-11-25 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk
c.org        In a message dated 11/25/2018 4:32:34 PM US Mountain Standard Time, cctalk@classiccmp.org writes:   Most mail servers sending inbound messages to the list include the encoding scheme in the header. The mailer program should process and translate the email message body accordingly...in t

Re: e-mail, character sets, encodings (was Re: George Keremedjiev)

2018-11-25 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
On 11/25/18 4:32 PM, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote: Most mail servers sending inbound messages to the list include the encoding scheme in the header. The mailer program should process and translate the email message body accordingly...in theory anyway. Most email handling programs don't

Re: e-mail, character sets, encodings (was Re: George Keremedjiev)

2018-11-25 Thread Bill Degnan via cctalk
Most mail servers sending inbound messages to the list include the encoding scheme in the header. The mailer program should process and translate the email message body accordingly...in theory anyway. The set up and testing of a sampling of encoding variations would reveal which interpreters

e-mail, character sets, encodings (was Re: George Keremedjiev)

2018-11-25 Thread Frank McConnell via cctalk
Very old mail programs indeed have no understanding whatsoever of character sets or encoding. They simply display data from the e-mail file on stdout or equivalent. If you are lucky, the character set and encoding in the e-mail match the character set and encoding used by your terminal. The

Re: Why don't you respect the mail threads?!

2018-02-26 Thread Mike Stein via cctalk
- Original Message - From: "Tomasz Rola via cctalk" To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" Sent: Monday, February 26, 2018 3:18 PM Subject: Re: Why don't you respect the mail threads?! > ... I do not feel the need to have very strong opinio

Re: Why don't you respect the mail threads?!

2018-02-26 Thread Tomasz Rola via cctalk
On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 03:36:08PM -0500, Evan Koblentz via cctalk wrote: > It's gone meta: people threadjacking a thread about threadjacking. > Now it's some posters trying to show others who is smartest about > arcane details of obsolete email software. Hey, I hope you do not mean that I am show

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