chusetts General Hospital Utility
Multi-Programming
System (MUMPS) and wrote an interpreter that would do the user's job on the
spot and interactively"
> Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2025 10:33:46 +0100
> From: Hans-Ulrich Hölscher <mailto:vaxorc...@googlemail.com>>
> Subject: [cctalk]
Sorry, no:
BASIC 1963
FOCAL 1968
Hans-Ulrich Hölscher schrieb am Mo., 13. Jan.
2025, 10:31:
> Isn't FOCAL older than BASIC?
>
> Mike Parr via cctalk schrieb am Mo., 13. Jan.
> 2025, 10:03:
>
>> I wondered about any influences from BASIC?
>>
>
Isn't FOCAL older than BASIC?
Mike Parr via cctalk schrieb am Mo., 13. Jan. 2025,
10:03:
> I wondered about any influences from BASIC?
>
I wondered about any influences from BASIC?
'FOCAL's history is now highlighted on the Software Preservation Group
web site.
Originally created for the PDP-8 in 1968, this simple, approachable
computer language significantly expanded the use of early DEC
minicomputers into applications not previously possible. It was
embraced b
Might be of interest to some on this list. A 30 minute video detailing the
start of Cray computing from the Rand days all the way to its final resting
place in HP.https://youtu.be/SOQ6F7HMfSc?si=YTGTcexPZOoNhxHZ
On 5/20/24 10:25, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote:
>>> American Computer Museum
>>> Computer History Museum
>>> Computer Museum of America
>>> Large Scale Systems Museum
>>> Rhode Island Computer Museum
>>> System Source Computer Museum
O
Virtual museums as well, e.g.:
http://www.nostalgiccomputing.org
On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 1:28 PM Christian Liendo via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> I see computer history slowly growing. Before you had only one museum
> in the United States and now you have multiple
Kennet Classic is still important in getting history out to the public.
On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 1:25 PM Bill Degnan via cctalk
wrote:
>
> Lol!I don't care, our little non profit is but a wee dot on the map
> compared with the well-funded giants.
>
> On Mon, May 20, 202
On 5/20/24 10:25, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote:
>>> American Computer Museum
>>> Computer History Museum
>>> Computer Museum of America
>>> Large Scale Systems Museum
>>> Rhode Island Computer Museum
>>> System Source Computer Museum
O
n, May 20, 2024 at 1:11 PM Christian Liendo
> wrote:
> >
> > I see computer history slowly growing. Before you had only one museum
> > in the United States and now you have multiple ones such as but not
> > limited to:
> >
> > American Computer Museum
> >
Sorry I forgot to add Kennet Classic. I failed, my mistake.
On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 1:11 PM Christian Liendo wrote:
>
> I see computer history slowly growing. Before you had only one museum
> in the United States and now you have multiple ones such as but not
> limited to:
>
>
I see computer history slowly growing. Before you had only one museum
in the United States and now you have multiple ones such as but not
limited to:
American Computer Museum
Computer History Museum
Computer Museum of America
Large Scale Systems Museum
Rhode Island Computer Museum
System Source
On Sunday, May 19th, 2024 at 13:31, ben via cctalk
wrote:
> My mind is fine, it the eyes that are going.
> Screens are getting bigger and text is getting smaller.
> I must be dreaming that.
HiDPI flatpanel displays definitely don't help with this. :/
The Doctor [412/724/301/703/415/510]
WWW:
> On May 20, 2024, at 9:33 AM, Nico de Jong via cctalk
> wrote:
>
>
> Den 2024-05-20 kl. 15:26 skrev Paul Koning via cctalk:
>>
>> ...
>> I just flipped through it briefly, and spotted what was the Electrologica
>> headquarters (page 143). And a fe
Den 2024-05-20 kl. 15:26 skrev Paul Koning via cctalk:
On May 20, 2024, at 6:08 AM, Nico de Jong via cctalk
wrote:
...
I used to work on the P6000 series, and they had a very interesting
architecture. For those who want to know a bit more about Philips' history, I
can recommend
> On May 20, 2024, at 6:08 AM, Nico de Jong via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> ...
> I used to work on the P6000 series, and they had a very interesting
> architecture. For those who want to know a bit more about Philips' history, I
> can recommend an e-book written by
thing about it. So I did something and started collecting and
restoring all the old computers I could find. It was a lot easier to
find minicomputers and the like back then than it is now.
But why did I buy that initial P850? I am not sure. I've always been
interested in the history of elect
collecting and
restoring all the old computers I could find. It was a lot easier to
find minicomputers and the like back then than it is now.
But why did I buy that initial P850? I am not sure. I've always been
interested in the history of electronics and computers, so perhaps
that was it.
-tony
> On the matter of the interest of the younger generation, I had 25 years
> of teaching at the end of my career as a point of observation. I
> frequently went into stories to explain how things that I taught matter
>
>
> As I get older (71 this year) I wonder if there are really enough people
> i
I hear you there!
I started out as a junior FE on the Univac 418 in 1971. Back then the
console was a modified TeleType and no problem seeing the characters as
the wove across the page at 10 cps!
Over my career, starting with 80x24 video terminals (VT05, VT52, VT100
and clones) I was excited as
uting, its importance in what we have today, and so on.
> What I found disappointing and saddening at the same time is their utmost
> ignorance about computing history or even early computers. Except for their
> recall of the 3.5 floppy or early 2000’s Windows, there was absolutely
>
Don't get your mind get old. It’s a choice.
My mind is fine, it the eyes that are going.
Screens are getting bigger and text is getting smaller.
I must be dreaming that.
computing history or
even early computers. Except for their recall of the 3.5 floppy or early 2000’s
Windows, there was absolutely nothing else that they were familiar with. That
made me wonder if this is a sign that our living version of classical personal
computing, in which many of us here in this
out computing were a
PDP-8manual and a FORTRAN manual centered on the 1620 in the attic growingup.
I'm not sure where it came from, but even as early as my freshman year
ofcollege, I had some interest in the history of the field. Several of us
misseda few days of class to attend NCC '
h it, but other than that, most people don't even
> get what it's doing. It's doing one thing of the whole "computing"
> process, poorly. There's no much interest in that, and only so many people
> can devote the space, power, and maintenance to an entire pun
ning at the same time is their utmost ignorance about
> computing history or even early computers. ...
I don't find this very surprising. It's just a special case of the fact that
few young people know much about history. And the fact that they know so
little about the country'
t;> disappointing and saddening at the same time is their utmost ignorance about
>> computing history or even early computers. Except for their recall of the
>> 3.5 floppy or early 2000’s Windows, there was absolutely nothing else that
>> they were familiar with. That made me won
> host. I had several conversations about computer origins, the early days of
> computing, its importance in what we have today, and so on. What I found
> disappointing and saddening at the same time is their utmost ignorance about
> computing history or even early computers. Except for the
On 5/19/24 10:57, Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote:
I am seeing this hobby growing beyond my own expectations, and a lot of
younger people are coming into it.
Yes, I have been to two Vintage Computer Fests at the
Chicago location. Most of the people there are fairly
young. There are some old
computing history or
even early computers. Except for their recall of the 3.5 floppy or early 2000’s
Windows, there was absolutely nothing else that they were familiar with. That
made me wonder if this is a sign that our living version of classical personal
computing, in which many of us here in this
e thing of the whole "computing"
process, poorly. There's no much interest in that, and only so many people
can devote the space, power, and maintenance to an entire punched card data
processing setup.
That being said, I believe the Haus zur Geschichte der IBM
Datenverarbeitung (H
Well my interest in computers started in my teens. I liked tinkering
with hardware and playing with OSes, but growing up in the 2000's, the
technology landscape had already "stagnated" into PC dominance. I
suppose there's only so much messing with Linux and other FOSS operating
systems you can
internet--that
those who came before me only dreamt about in their time.
The most amazing thing to me about computer history back in the 1990s and
early 2000s when this hobby really started to get going is that we lived at
a time when many of the people who literally invented the industry were
still
importance in what we have today, and so on.
> What I found disappointing and saddening at the same time is their utmost
> ignorance about computing history or even early computers. Except for their
> recall of the 3.5 floppy or early 2000’s Windows, there was absolutely
> nothing else t
it computers with which I grew up. I had no
> concept of computer history until I fell into the hobby, and was fascinated
> to learn all about the computers that came before my time, including the
> S-100s of the 1970s, then the mini-computers of the prior generation on
> which the S-10
I am seeing this hobby growing beyond my own expectations, and a lot of
younger people are coming into it. Many people in their teens and twenties
are newly discovering the 8-bit computers with which I grew up. I had no
concept of computer history until I fell into the hobby, and was fascinated
iter), and a few others in tech who are friends with the party
>> host. I had several conversations about computer origins, the early days of
>> computing, its importance in what we have today, and so on. What I found
>> disappointing and saddening at the same time is their utmo
with the party host. I
had several conversations about computer origins, the early days of computing,
its importance in what we have today, and so on. What I found disappointing and
saddening at the same time is their utmost ignorance about computing history or
even early computers. Except for thei
party host. I
had several conversations about computer origins, the early days of computing,
its importance in what we have today, and so on. What I found disappointing and
saddening at the same time is their utmost ignorance about computing history or
even early computers. Except for their
It is funny, but truth be told we dodged a massive bullet by going with
the "Internet" and TCP/IP as opposed to the nightmare of AT&T Connect,
IPX, and the blazing speeds of TWO! ISDN B channels.
I was there. I remember X.400, and how NDS was going to be the directory
system that bound us all
and would have
done everything they could to enforce the output of those
international committees...
US was also the home of AOL and several other walled gardens.
But OK, this discussion is really for the internet-history list,
except it has been had so many times already...
Julf
On Sat, Apr 27, 2024 at 6:34 PM Chris Zach wrote:
> Seems the USPS was trial building a system where you could bring a
> letter into a Post Office, they would scan it, then send it to another
> post office in MINUTES using a big packet switched network based on
> PDP11/23's connected to RM02's (y
Fortunately, in the US the net wasn't run by the Post Office so the
mammals were out of the bag and fruitfully multiplying long before the
rest of the world caught on and started forming committees to create
camel-shaped dinosaurs to perform the same functions. As a result most
of those things wer
On Sat, Apr 27, 2024 at 10:57 AM Chris Zach via cctalk
wrote:
> It is funny, but truth be told we dodged a massive bullet by going with
> the "Internet" and TCP/IP as opposed to the nightmare of AT&T Connect,
> IPX, and the blazing speeds of TWO! ISDN B channels.
>
> I was there. I remember X.400
It is funny, but truth be told we dodged a massive bullet by going with
the "Internet" and TCP/IP as opposed to the nightmare of AT&T Connect,
IPX, and the blazing speeds of TWO! ISDN B channels.
I was there. I remember X.400, and how NDS was going to be the directory
system that bound us all
On Fri, 26 Apr 2024 at 21:52, Sellam Abraham via cctalk
wrote:
>
> Seems like a hormonal problem.
No, there is a problem, but it's your knee-jerk reactions.
Sorry, man, but it is. Charlie's bang on. Also, he's very British and
very sarcastic, in that British way many Americans of my personal
acq
On Fri, 26 Apr 2024 at 03:25, Tomasz Rola via cctalk
wrote:
>
> Well, if you are into this kind of stuff (I am)... Stross is an s-f
> author, formerly a programmer (ages ago but I think it still shows -
> perhaps he secretly writes his own tools in Perl)
He wrote the Linux column in the UK versio
On Fri, Apr 26, 2024 at 01:51:48PM -0700, Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 25, 2024 at 7:25 PM Tomasz Rola via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
> > Well, if you are into this kind of stuff (I am)... Stross is an s-f
> > author, formerly a programmer (ages ago but I think it
On Thu, Apr 25, 2024 at 7:25 PM Tomasz Rola via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> Well, if you are into this kind of stuff (I am)... Stross is an s-f
> author, formerly a programmer (ages ago but I think it still shows -
> perhaps he secretly writes his own tools in Perl) and he has a
> blo
Well, if you are into this kind of stuff (I am)... Stross is an s-f
author, formerly a programmer (ages ago but I think it still shows -
perhaps he secretly writes his own tools in Perl) and he has a
blog. This time, he explores the idea that internet "bub" delivered on
its promises, rather than su
> On Jan 19, 2024, at 10:34 PM, Rodney Brown wrote:
> ...
>
> I'm not a polymath who keeps lots of Assembly mnemonics in my head, so I
> hoped the "IEEE Standard for Microprocessor Assembly Language" IEEE Std
> 694-1985 1985 doi:10.1109/IEEESTD.1985.81632 would have taken off. I think
> onl
On 17/1/24 02:04, Paul Koning wrote:
On Jan 16, 2024, at 6:52 AM, Rodney Brown via cctalk
wrote:
Forth was ported to an HP-2100 in 1972, by Elizabeth Rather, so had early
history on HP hardware, though from what I can it it was never a product
available from HP.
I don't know if Fort
On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 5:53 AM Rodney Brown via cctalk
wrote:
> Anthony Pepin provided a Forth to the HP3000 Contributed Library in
> September 1982, though I think his looks like a virtual machine, I don't
> remember trying it in the day.
> Thanks to Gavin Scott's "system" and J. David Bryan's
On 16/01/2024 16:29, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote:
I suppose it's easier on byte-oriented machines but it seems doable on others. ANSI FORTH may be
helpful for this, since it explicitly distinguishes between "character address" and
"cell address" (meaning word address).
Good point - that wo
> On Jan 16, 2024, at 10:13 AM, Johan Helsingius via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> On 16/01/2024 16:04, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote:
>
>> FORTH by its nature actually fits well in Harvard architectures.
>
> Indeed - but it really doesn't fit machines that aren't byte-oriented.
> I started on portin
On 16/01/2024 16:04, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote:
FORTH by its nature actually fits well in Harvard architectures.
Indeed - but it really doesn't fit machines that aren't byte-oriented.
I started on porting FIG-FORTH to the PDP-10 architecture but quickly
abandoned the effort...
Julf
> On Jan 16, 2024, at 6:52 AM, Rodney Brown via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> Forth was ported to an HP-2100 in 1972, by Elizabeth Rather, so had early
> history on HP hardware, though from what I can it it was never a product
> available from HP.
> I don't know if Forth Inc
Forth was ported to an HP-2100 in 1972, by Elizabeth Rather, so had early
history on HP hardware, though from what I can it it was never a product
available from HP.
I don't know if Forth Inc ever supported Forth on HP machines.
Anthony Pepin provided a Forth to the HP3000 Contributed Libra
A little addition is that after the sale to C&T, most of the SMS
employees were shifted to Televideo who bought the SMS board business.
--Chuck
Thanks for that, Tim. I was VP Ops of the Canadian Distributor for Data
Systems design, and we got a lot of fierce competition from SMS.
However, when non-patched drivers were called for, we won every time.
SMS did have some speed advantages by going their own way though!
I always wondered w
On 12/5/23 16:59, Shoppa, Tim via cctalk wrote:
> SMS was based in Mountain View starting in the 70's. They sold DEC-compatible
> Q-bus storage systems in the early 80's and transitioned into IBM PC disk
> storage ASICs and boards under the OMTI brand in the late 80s.
>
SMS declared bankruptcy
SMS was based in Mountain View starting in the 70's. They sold DEC-compatible
Q-bus storage systems in the early 80's and transitioned into IBM PC disk
storage ASICs and boards under the OMTI brand in the late 80s.
What happened to them after that? Some CC'er in Silicon Valley must know :-)
Tim
On Mon, Apr 10, 2023, 8:10 PM Murray McCullough via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> 45 years ago this month Intel revealed the 8086 processor which became x86
> technology that formed the backbone of PC technology. The 8-bit era came to
> an end about 7 years later. For classic computing
On Mon, 10 Apr 2023, Murray McCullough via cctalk wrote:
45 years ago this month Intel revealed the 8086 processor which became x86
technology that formed the backbone of PC technology. The 8-bit era came to
an end about 7 years later. For classic computing a new era began.
Some might enjoy a
45 years ago this month Intel revealed the 8086 processor which became x86
technology that formed the backbone of PC technology. The 8-bit era came to
an end about 7 years later. For classic computing a new era began.
Happy computing.
Murray 🙂
Will do ! Thank you
Regards,
Tarek Hoteit
> On Mar 15, 2023, at 9:37 AM, ebruchez--- via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> I just wanted to say that the CHM is great. The exhibits are wonderfully
> done, and yes, don't miss the 1401 demo if you can. But there is a lot,
> starting with Hollerith machines
I just wanted to say that the CHM is great. The exhibits are wonderfully done,
and yes, don't miss the 1401 demo if you can. But there is a lot, starting with
Hollerith machines and ENIAC panels all the way to more contemporary items.
-Erik
On Tue, Mar 14, 2023 at 7:15 PM Fred Cisin via cctalk
wrote:
> On 3/14/2023 3:03 AM, Curious Marc via cctalk wrote:
> > The cafeteria is open, there is a Starbucks and even a nice Italian
> across
> > the street if you want to treat yourself. On Wednesdays we have a demo
> of
> > the IBM 1401 at
Tarek Hoteit via cctalk
>> wrote:
>>
>> I truly appreciate all the suggestions that I received for my computer
>> history museum visit this coming Wednesday including the food options and
>> the nearby areas. Some notes about the “old Silicon Valley”, the limite
On 3/14/2023 3:03 AM, Curious Marc via cctalk wrote:
The cafeteria is open, there is a Starbucks and even a nice Italian across
the street if you want to treat yourself. On Wednesdays we have a demo of
the IBM 1401 at 3 pm, and before that the restoration team works on it from
10:30 am on (it n
On 3/14/2023 3:03 AM, Curious Marc via cctalk wrote:
The cafeteria is open, there is a Starbucks and even a nice Italian across the
street if you want to treat yourself. On Wednesdays we have a demo of the IBM
1401 at 3 pm, and before that the restoration team works on it from 10:30 am on
(i
Weird Stuff, Halted and Excess Solutions unfortunately :-(
Marc
> On Mar 13, 2023, at 9:48 AM, Tarek Hoteit via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> I truly appreciate all the suggestions that I received for my computer
> history museum visit this coming Wednesday including the food options an
I attended the Vintage Computer Faire at the Computer History Museum many a
yr. ago. The museum wasn't opened yet then collecting many computer
artifacts including the Cray-1. I also met Steve Wozniak who gladdened the
heart of this Canadian nerd/geek/computer enthusiast. I'm looking
I truly appreciate all the suggestions that I received for my computer history
museum visit this coming Wednesday including the food options and the nearby
areas. Some notes about the “old Silicon Valley”, the limited food options, and
some nearby technology shops being gone is sad, but it is
The Silicon Valley of old is basically dead. The magic is gone.
The two suplus stores are gone (Halted and Weird Stuff Warehouse.) Only
thing I can think of that I would recommend is the Musee Mechanique over
in San Fran.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mus%C3%A9e_M%C3%A9canique
For suplus p
3 9:27 AM, Tarek Hoteit via cctalk wrote:
Hello. I am visiting the Computer History Museum in California next week. I
always wanted to check it out and spend a day there, but something else
happens. Any recommendations of what is a must see at the museum and anything
else classic computing nea
On 3/12/23 21:27, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
It used to be worth driving an hour to go to the Computer Literacy
bookstore, . . . and the Foothill swap, before dawn, . . . even the
John Craig Computer Swap America at the San Jose fairgrounds, . . .
Electronics, Etc., and Al Lasher's are go
On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 12:27 AM Fred Cisin via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> On Sun, 12 Mar 2023, Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote:
> > The Silicon Valley of old is basically dead. The magic is gone.
>
>
> . . . and that nostalgia of what we miss is what fueled stupid prices for
> a n
3 9:27 AM, Tarek Hoteit via cctalk wrote:
Hello. I am visiting the Computer History Museum in California next week. I
always wanted to check it out and spend a day there, but something else
happens. Any recommendations of what is a must see at the museum and anything
else classic computing nea
On Sun, 12 Mar 2023, Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote:
The Silicon Valley of old is basically dead. The magic is gone.
That being said, wherever you decide to go, you'll want to plan your travel
between a very narrow window of time (I don't know what it is anymore, when
I left it was between roug
On Sun, Mar 12, 2023 at 9:28 AM Tarek Hoteit via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> Hello. I am visiting the Computer History Museum in California next week.
> I always wanted to check it out and spend a day there, but something else
> happens. Any recommendations of what i
On Sun, Mar 12, 2023 at 9:52 AM Steve Lewis via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> > I am visiting the Computer History Museum in California next week.
> > I always wanted to check it out and spend a day there, but something else
> happens. Any recommendations
> &g
Intel Museum in Santa Clara is with a visit.
On Sun, Mar 12, 2023 at 9:28 AM Tarek Hoteit via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> Hello. I am visiting the Computer History Museum in California next week.
> I always wanted to check it out and spend a day there, but something el
15:00, Tarek Hoteit via cctalk wrote:
>> Thank you so much. The links are extremely helpful. Actually, your entire
>> blog is excellent, Steve
>>
>> Regards,
>> Tarek Hoteit
>>
>>>> On Mar 12, 2023, at 12:24 PM, Steve Lewis via cctalk
>>
On 3/12/23 15:00, Tarek Hoteit via cctalk wrote:
Thank you so much. The links are extremely helpful. Actually, your entire blog
is excellent, Steve
Regards,
Tarek Hoteit
On Mar 12, 2023, at 12:24 PM, Steve Lewis via cctalk
wrote:
Hello. I am visiting the Computer History Museum in
ere's a list of cool stores in the area.
On Sun, Mar 12, 2023, 11:28 AM Tarek Hoteit via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> Hello. I am visiting the Computer History Museum in California anything
> else classic computing nearby?
>
Thank you so much. The links are extremely helpful. Actually, your entire blog
is excellent, Steve
Regards,
Tarek Hoteit
> On Mar 12, 2023, at 12:24 PM, Steve Lewis via cctalk
> wrote:
>
>
>>
>> Hello. I am visiting the Computer History Museum in California next
> Hello. I am visiting the Computer History Museum in California next week
Tarek,
I forgot, I have my own little CHM notes page here:
https://voidstar.blog/vcf-west-2021/
Not much, since at the time not all the exhibits were re-opened yet - so
there is much more to see now-a-days. May look i
FYI: DigiBarn is closed for good and all collections were transferred
to a museum back east.
Steve
On 3/12/23 9:51 AM, Steve Lewis via cctalk wrote:
I am visiting the Computer History Museum in California next week.
I always wanted to check it out and spend a day there, but something else
Digibarn computers have been moved to the SystemSource computer museum in
Hunt Valley MD.
BIll
On Sun, Mar 12, 2023 at 12:52 PM Steve Lewis via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> > I am visiting the Computer History Museum in California next week.
> > I always wanted t
> I am visiting the Computer History Museum in California next week.
> I always wanted to check it out and spend a day there, but something else
happens. Any recommendations
> of what is a must see at the museum and anything else classic computing
nearby in one day only (March 15)?
I
Hello. I am visiting the Computer History Museum in California next week. I
always wanted to check it out and spend a day there, but something else
happens. Any recommendations of what is a must see at the museum and anything
else classic computing nearby in one day only (March 15)?
Regards
, September 22, 2022 3:22 PM
To: cctalk@classiccmp.org
Cc: Chuck Guzis
Subject: [cctalk] Re: 7485 chip history??? (Solid State Music SB-1)
On 9/22/22 09:55, John Robertson via cctalk wrote:
> On 2022/09/19 9:51 p.m., ben via cctalk wrote:
>> On 2022-09-19 10:18 p.m., Tom Hunter via cctalk wrote:
I have just stumbled across this nice "Timeline of Computer History" from
the CHM:
https://www.computerhistory.org/timeline/computers/
I have not seen this before and thought it may be of interest to this list.
Tom
On 9/22/22 09:55, John Robertson via cctalk wrote:
> On 2022/09/19 9:51 p.m., ben via cctalk wrote:
>> On 2022-09-19 10:18 p.m., Tom Hunter via cctalk wrote:
>>> There are a few US based Ebay sellers of the 74L85.
>>>
>>> Tom
>> But most ebay sellers, from the USA seem to sell a item for $6.00 and
On 2022/09/19 9:51 p.m., ben via cctalk wrote:
On 2022-09-19 10:18 p.m., Tom Hunter via cctalk wrote:
There are a few US based Ebay sellers of the 74L85.
Tom
But most ebay sellers, from the USA seem to sell a item for $6.00 and
$75 shipping to Canada. China $2 and $3 shipping. With Covid all
Ben, I buy lots of stuff from eBay US sellers and most are willing to check/fix
shipping costs.
If not then I use a drop-box service where the item is shipped to Oregon, and
then reshipped to me for a not too horrible cost.
Lastly, I’ll be back at my shop in Burnaby in a couple of days and can
And I thought shipping to Australia (opposite side of the planet) was
expensive.
Shipping from the US to Canada should be dirt cheap as mail can move via
trains not air freight.
$75 shipping for an IC is crazy no matter what the destination is (except
maybe Mars).
Tom
On Tue, Sep 20, 2022 at 12:5
On 2022-09-19 10:18 p.m., Tom Hunter via cctalk wrote:
There are a few US based Ebay sellers of the 74L85.
Tom
But most ebay sellers, from the USA seem to sell a item for $6.00 and
$75 shipping to Canada. China $2 and $3 shipping. With Covid all
shipping is several weeks.
Ben.
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