RE: Help installing HP 2000 contributed library in simh

2020-04-10 Thread Bob brown via cctalk
Subject: Re: Help installing HP 2000 contributed library in simh If it helps at all, I run a public hp2000/access emulated system that everyone is free to play with. It’s been up for many years. Telnet to Mickey.publicvm.com Do ctl m and ctl j till you see PLEASE LOG IN HEL-t001,hp2000,1 If anyone

Re: Help installing HP 2000 contributed library in simh

2020-04-10 Thread Bob4schoolboard94 via cctalk
If it helps at all, I run a public hp2000/access emulated system that everyone is free to play with. It’s been up for many years. Telnet to Mickey.publicvm.com Do ctl m and ctl j till you see PLEASE LOG IN HEL-t001,hp2000,1 If anyone wants a personal account just let me know. -Bob -Bob >

Re: Help installing HP 2000 contributed library in simh

2020-04-09 Thread David Williams via cctalk
On 2020-04-08 22:47, J. David Bryan via cctalk wrote: The HP Orsay (not Grenoble, as I misremembered) implementation is the only SNOBOL3 implementation I've used. There's a free SNOBOL4 implementation here for various PC operating systems: https://github.com/spitbol/ Actually, it's a SPITB

Re: Help installing HP 2000 contributed library in simh

2020-04-08 Thread J. David Bryan via cctalk
On Wednesday, April 8, 2020 at 13:42, David Williams via cctalk wrote: > I have some old tapes from my Honeywell 66/60 GCOS days that I > sometimes wonder if I could still get dumped. A number of folks have 800 NRZI/1600 PE/6250 GCR 1.2-inch tape drives connected to PCs via SCSI interfaces that

Re: Help installing HP 2000 contributed library in simh

2020-04-08 Thread David Williams via cctalk
On 2020-04-08 00:26, J. David Bryan via cctalk wrote: Assuming that your tapes are sources, there are several folks with operational HP 21xx/1000 computers who probably have paper-tape-reading capability. Dumping the tape to a PC-hosted terminal emulator can capture the text into a host-PC file

Re: Help installing HP 2000 contributed library in simh

2020-04-08 Thread J. David Bryan via cctalk
On Tuesday, April 7, 2020 at 13:19, David Williams via cctech wrote: > First I want to say again how much I appreciate your assistance. You're very welcome. > Up until now my only experience with this system was as a HS student > first learning to program and never had any access to the system

Re: Help installing HP 2000 contributed library in simh

2020-04-07 Thread J. David Bryan via cctalk
On Tuesday, April 7, 2020 at 18:28, David Williams via cctalk wrote: > Still have a box of paper tapes from back then that I suspect I'll > never be able to do anything with again but the pack rat in me refuses > to let go. Every so often I consider trying to decode them again. Assuming that you

RE: Help installing HP 2000 contributed library in simh

2020-04-07 Thread jwest--- via cctalk
David wrote... Any other suggestions of interesting operating systems or software to try out besides TSB? Interesting development environments or uncommon or unusual languages tend to grab my interest. Not sure what all was available for the hardware. -- Yes. http://newton.freehostia.com/h

Re: Help installing HP 2000 contributed library in simh

2020-04-07 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk
yes old  yahoo  group  but  the io  group looks  dead>ed# In a message dated 4/7/2020 4:29:50 PM US Mountain Standard Time, cctalk@classiccmp.org writes: That's the old Yahoo group isn't it? I had joined them on Yahoo years ago but never did much there. Any other suggestions of interesting oper

Re: Help installing HP 2000 contributed library in simh

2020-04-07 Thread David Williams via cctalk
On 2020-04-07 14:36, J. David Bryan via cctech wrote: Both Access and F allow the user to input programs by using the paper tape reader that's part of the ASR 33 Teletype. But the simulated terminal multiplexer supports only KSR 33 models (no punch or reader). ASR 33 is what we used in HS. St

Re: Help installing HP 2000 contributed library in simh

2020-04-07 Thread David Williams via cctalk
First I want to say again how much I appreciate your assistance. Up until now my only experience with this system was as a HS student first learning to program and never had any access to the system outside of that. Learning a lot reading the manuals for the system as well as the doc on Simh an

Re: Help installing HP 2000 contributed library in simh

2020-04-06 Thread J. David Bryan via cctalk
On Monday, April 6, 2020 at 13:47, David Williams via cctech wrote: > The first few tries I didn't see any messages, it just went on to the > enter date and time and start up but when I'd check the account's > directory there was nothing there. As I noted, I'm not that familiar with TSB (I'm an

Re: Help installing HP 2000 contributed library in simh

2020-04-06 Thread J. David Bryan via cctalk
On Monday, April 6, 2020 at 23:53, David Williams via cctalk wrote: > Access is set up and running fine already so things should have already > been configured for it I'd have thought. The simulator executable always starts up with a default hardware configuration (a 32K 2116 CPU, no extra firm

Re: Help installing HP 2000 contributed library in simh

2020-04-06 Thread David Williams via cctalk
On 2020-04-06 22:59, J. David Bryan via cctalk wrote: The included "spconfig.inc" file indicates that the tape interface is assigned to select codes 16 and 17. So the command you want is: DEPOSIT S 101601 Okay I was only slightly off... 3) Select the A-register and clear the display. Set

Re: Help installing HP 2000 contributed library in simh

2020-04-06 Thread J. David Bryan via cctalk
On Monday, April 6, 2020 at 20:39, David Williams via cctalk wrote: > The problem I'm having is to load it I have to: > > [...] > > 2) Select the S-register and clear the display. Set bits 15 and 0. Set > bits 11 through 6 to the low number (high priority) octal select code of > the magnetic t

Re: Help installing HP 2000 contributed library in simh

2020-04-06 Thread David Williams via cctalk
On 2020-04-06 18:30, David Williams via cctalk wrote: On 2020-04-06 16:29, J. David Bryan via cctech wrote: Access does come with a conversion program, described in Appendix F of the above manual, that allows one to dump Access programs in 2000F format. Presumably, you could load the CSL tape i

Re: Help installing HP 2000 contributed library in simh

2020-04-06 Thread David Williams via cctalk
On 2020-04-06 16:29, J. David Bryan via cctech wrote: As I noted, I'm not that familiar with TSB (I'm an RTE guy). But you might have to create the desired accounts with the "NEW" sysop command before you can restore to them. Yes I created the accounts first and after I thought the tapes loa

Re: Help installing HP 2000 contributed library in simh

2020-04-06 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk
you  said - "You can enter just the account names" OK  that is the  way  I  remember  it! In a message dated 4/6/2020 11:39:21 AM US Mountain Standard Time, cct...@classiccmp.org writes: On Monday, April 6, 2020 at 9:20, ED SHARPE via cctech wrote: > For  some  reason I  do not  remember having

Re: Help installing HP 2000 contributed library in simh

2020-04-06 Thread David Williams via cctalk
On 2020-04-05 23:41, J. David Bryan wrote: My acquaintance with the HP Time-Shared BASICs is only passing, and you didn't mention where you picked up the CSL image, but the ones at Bitsavers appear to be selective dumps of various accounts. For those, you'd want to do a selective load of the

Re: Help installing HP 2000 contributed library in simh

2020-04-06 Thread J. David Bryan via cctalk
On Monday, April 6, 2020 at 9:20, ED SHARPE via cctech wrote: > For  some  reason I  do not  remember having to enter each and every  > file  name  to load  it  in to a real 2000f   but  then again it  has  > been 40 years! You can enter just the account names, which will restore all of the dumpe

Re: Help installing HP 2000 contributed library in simh

2020-04-06 Thread ED SHARPE via cctalk
For  some  reason I  do not  remember having to enter each and every  file  name  to load  it  in to a real 2000f   but  then again it  has  been 40 years!  Ed# In a message dated 4/6/2020 2:12:42 AM US Mountain Standard Time, cctalk@classiccmp.org writes: On Saturday, April 4, 2020 at 21:54, D

Re: Help installing HP 2000 contributed library in simh

2020-04-06 Thread J. David Bryan via cctalk
On Saturday, April 4, 2020 at 21:54, David Williams via cctech wrote: > I've been able set up Simh with 2000F TSB and everything is working > fine. Using the latest release I can find out there, HP2100 release > 29. Now I'd like to be able to install some of the Contributed > Software Library but

Help installing HP 2000 contributed library in simh

2020-04-04 Thread David Williams via cctalk
Okay, I've only ever been a user, back in high school, of HP 2000F TSB system but wanted to play with it again and learn more about the system. I've been able set up Simh with 2000F TSB and everything is working fine. Using the latest release I can find out there, HP2100 release 29. Now I'd lik