Re: DecServer 550 chassis

2015-10-22 Thread Holm Tiffe
Holm Tiffe wrote: > Johnny Billquist wrote: > > > On 2015-10-19 23:11, jwsmobile wrote: > > > > > > > > >On 10/19/2015 12:39 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote: > > >>Well, you did ask for "thoughts in the conversion", so I gave you > > >>mine. Sorry if you felt they were unhelpful. I just thought the >

Re: DecServer 550 chassis

2015-10-20 Thread Holm Tiffe
Johnny Billquist wrote: > On 2015-10-19 23:11, jwsmobile wrote: > > > > > >On 10/19/2015 12:39 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote: > >>Well, you did ask for "thoughts in the conversion", so I gave you > >>mine. Sorry if you felt they were unhelpful. I just thought the > >>"conversion" was basically a no-w

Re: DecServer 550 chassis

2015-10-19 Thread Johnny Billquist
On 2015-10-19 23:11, jwsmobile wrote: On 10/19/2015 12:39 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote: Well, you did ask for "thoughts in the conversion", so I gave you mine. Sorry if you felt they were unhelpful. I just thought the "conversion" was basically a no-work. Programming proms is something I have sp

Re: DecServer 550 chassis

2015-10-19 Thread jwsmobile
On 10/19/2015 12:39 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote: Well, you did ask for "thoughts in the conversion", so I gave you mine. Sorry if you felt they were unhelpful. I just thought the "conversion" was basically a no-work. Programming proms is something I have spent more time than I can count on, an

Re: DecServer 550 chassis

2015-10-19 Thread Pete Turnbull
On 19/10/2015 20:24, jwsmobile wrote: On 10/19/2015 12:03 PM, Glen Slick wrote: The 23-261E5 / 23-262E5 firmware images for the M7554 11/53 are available on Pete's DECROM archive. http://www.dunnington.info/public/DECROMs/ Thanks, Glen! Glen beat me to it :-) -- Pete Pete Turnbull

Re: DecServer 550 chassis

2015-10-19 Thread Johnny Billquist
Well, you did ask for "thoughts in the conversion", so I gave you mine. Sorry if you felt they were unhelpful. I just thought the "conversion" was basically a no-work. Programming proms is something I have spent more time than I can count on, and is so routine that I don't even think about it.

Re: DecServer 550 chassis

2015-10-19 Thread jwsmobile
On 10/19/2015 12:03 PM, Glen Slick wrote: On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 11:57 AM, jwsmobile wrote: That is basically what I said. I don't have one that isn't part of a DecServer and i need images, or someone with a non DecServer to provide them. I guess you restated what I said. if you have one,

Re: DecServer 550 chassis

2015-10-19 Thread Glen Slick
On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 11:57 AM, jwsmobile wrote: > > That is basically what I said. I don't have one that isn't part of a > DecServer and i need images, or someone with a non DecServer to provide > them. > > I guess you restated what I said. if you have one, I'd appreciate copies. > The 23-26

Re: DecServer 550 chassis

2015-10-19 Thread Joseph Lang
I have a decserver 550 CPU converted to a real KDJ. It's as simple as new ROMS and one resistor. I also removed the s-box bracket to fit my chassis. Runs BSD 2.11 just fine (RQDX3 disks) Joe > On Oct 19, 2015, at 12:28 PM, jwsmobile wrote: > > I would appreciate thoughts on the conversion o

Re: DecServer 550 chassis

2015-10-19 Thread jwsmobile
On 10/19/2015 10:03 AM, Johnny Billquist wrote: Not sure what you expect a "conversion" means. Creating new PROMs imply finding actual proms, a prom programmer, the code to program into the PROMs, and then just replace the proms on the card. Only the last piece will actually require any modifi

Re: DecServer 550 chassis

2015-10-19 Thread Paul Koning
> On Oct 19, 2015, at 2:46 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote: > > On 2015-10-19 20:43, Paul Koning wrote: >> >>> On Oct 19, 2015, at 2:30 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote: >>> >>> On 2015-10-19 19:42, Paul Koning wrote: ... CTERM was an attempt to wrap a single protocol around the terribly

Re: DecServer 550 chassis

2015-10-19 Thread Johnny Billquist
On 2015-10-19 20:43, Paul Koning wrote: On Oct 19, 2015, at 2:30 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote: On 2015-10-19 19:42, Paul Koning wrote: ... CTERM was an attempt to wrap a single protocol around the terribly inconsistent semantics of the terminal drivers in all the DEC operating systems, and to

Re: DecServer 550 chassis

2015-10-19 Thread Paul Koning
> On Oct 19, 2015, at 2:30 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote: > > On 2015-10-19 19:42, Paul Koning wrote: >> ... >> CTERM was an attempt to wrap a single protocol around the terribly >> inconsistent semantics of the terminal drivers in all the DEC operating >> systems, and to export as much as possib

Re: DecServer 550 chassis

2015-10-19 Thread Johnny Billquist
On 2015-10-19 19:42, Paul Koning wrote: On Oct 19, 2015, at 12:17 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote: On 2015-10-19 16:32, Paul Koning wrote: On Oct 19, 2015, at 3:42 AM, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: Interesting. I thought Tthe DECserver 550 was merely the big brother in the terminal server line. But

Re: DecServer 550 chassis

2015-10-19 Thread Paul Koning
> On Oct 19, 2015, at 12:17 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote: > > On 2015-10-19 16:32, Paul Koning wrote: >> >>> On Oct 19, 2015, at 3:42 AM, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: >>> >>> Interesting. I thought Tthe DECserver 550 was merely the big brother in >>> the terminal server line. But it looks like it is

Re: DecServer 550 chassis

2015-10-19 Thread Johnny Billquist
Not sure what you expect a "conversion" means. Creating new PROMs imply finding actual proms, a prom programmer, the code to program into the PROMs, and then just replace the proms on the card. Only the last piece will actually require any modification of the card, and I would expect them to be

Re: DecServer 550 chassis

2015-10-19 Thread jwsmobile
I would appreciate thoughts on the conversion of the processor to normal PDP11 eproms. The page pointed to earlier has a mention of that too, but the poster had access to another "real" KDJ and I am guessing copied that. I don't have access to any version of the system with appropriate eproms

Re: DecServer 550 chassis

2015-10-19 Thread Johnny Billquist
On 2015-10-19 16:32, Paul Koning wrote: On Oct 19, 2015, at 3:42 AM, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: Interesting. I thought Tthe DECserver 550 was merely the big brother in the terminal server line. But it looks like it is essentially a PDP-11/53 with 1.5MW of ram, you need new boot roms though. Prett

Re: DecServer 550 chassis

2015-10-19 Thread Ethan Dicks
On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 3:42 AM, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: > Interesting. I thought Tthe DECserver 550 was merely the big brother in > the terminal server line. But it looks like it is essentially a > PDP-11/53 with 1.5MW of ram, you need new boot roms though. Pretty nice. Yep. It's essentially an

Re: DecServer 550 chassis

2015-10-19 Thread Paul Koning
> On Oct 19, 2015, at 3:42 AM, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: > > Interesting. I thought Tthe DECserver 550 was merely the big brother in > the terminal server line. But it looks like it is essentially a > PDP-11/53 with 1.5MW of ram, you need new boot roms though. Pretty nice. It's been a while, but

Re: DecServer 550 chassis

2015-10-19 Thread Rod Smallwood
Its a terminal concentrator. I have a load of those 8 and 16 line cards. They would have fanned out to via splitter cables to back /front panels with 9/25 way D connectors. They look in a bit of a sorry state. I would not apply power or plug into any other chassis. Rod On 19/10/2015 08:30,

Re: DecServer 550 chassis

2015-10-19 Thread jwsmobile
On 10/19/2015 12:42 AM, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: Interesting. I thought Tthe DECserver 550 was merely the big brother in the terminal server line. But it looks like it is essentially a PDP-11/53 with 1.5MW of ram, you need new boot roms though. Pretty nice. http://home.windstream.net/engdahl/kdj

Re: DecServer 550 chassis

2015-10-19 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
Interesting. I thought Tthe DECserver 550 was merely the big brother in the terminal server line. But it looks like it is essentially a PDP-11/53 with 1.5MW of ram, you need new boot roms though. Pretty nice. http://home.windstream.net/engdahl/kdj11.htm /P On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 12:30:00AM -

DecServer 550 chassis

2015-10-19 Thread jwsmobile
These are the cards in the DecServer 550. Looks to be an expansion chassis with 108 ports or so. Thanks Jim Photos of the DecServer 550 https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B4AXJXpUCE-hQ2lsc2lqS3VHd0U&usp=sharing