Re: AlphaServer 2100s available

2022-04-15 Thread Lee Courtney via cctalk
There are still HP3000 systems being used in business critical functions, 12(?) years after the HP end-of-life date (no manufacturing or support) for the product line. (From a business continuity perspective that's insane.) Hardware support is not based on new manufacturer parts with warranty, but

Re: AlphaServer 2100s available

2022-04-15 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Apr 15, 2022, at 6:49 PM, Peter Coghlan via cctalk > wrote: > > We occasionally hear of aged computers being employed in the nuclear > power industry, certain military applications or long lifed medical > equipment for example. I imagine that these machines can have a > significant comm

Re: AlphaServer 2100s available

2022-04-15 Thread Peter Coghlan via cctalk
We occasionally hear of aged computers being employed in the nuclear power industry, certain military applications or long lifed medical equipment for example. I imagine that these machines can have a significant commercial value long after their contemporaries which are not involved in these rol

Re: AlphaServer 2100s available

2022-04-15 Thread Alan Perry via cctalk
; Sent: 15 April 2022 16:00 >> To: cctalk@classiccmp.org >> Subject: Re: AlphaServer 2100s available >> >> I wouldn't expect commercial value to come into the discussion on this list. I >> am wondering what other hobbyists pay in order to

Re: AlphaServer 2100s available

2022-04-15 Thread Malte Dehling via cctalk
t; >> To: cctalk@classiccmp.org > >> Subject: Re: AlphaServer 2100s available > >> > >> I wouldn't expect commercial value to come into the discussion on this > list. I > >> am wondering what other hobbyists pay in order to gauge whether the > price >

Re: AlphaServer 2100s available

2022-04-15 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
On 4/15/22 12:43 PM, Alan Perry via cctalk wrote: The note on it says that it doesn't boot, but they had the same note on the Axil 320 (SS20 clone) that I got from them and it booted up fine once I put a HDD in it. There's posting and then there's booting into an OS. The former is most impor

Re: AlphaServer 2100s available

2022-04-15 Thread Alan Perry via cctalk
On 4/15/22 9:53 AM, Dave Wade G4UGM via cctalk wrote: -Original Message- From: cctalk On Behalf Of Alan Perry via cctalk Sent: 15 April 2022 16:00 To: cctalk@classiccmp.org Subject: Re: AlphaServer 2100s available I wouldn't expect commercial value to come into the discussion on

RE: AlphaServer 2100s available

2022-04-15 Thread Dave Wade G4UGM via cctalk
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk On Behalf Of Alan Perry via > cctalk > Sent: 15 April 2022 16:00 > To: cctalk@classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: AlphaServer 2100s available > > I wouldn't expect commercial value to come into the discussion on this list

Re: AlphaServer 2100s available

2022-04-15 Thread Alan Perry via cctalk
I wouldn't expect commercial value to come into the discussion on this list. I am wondering what other hobbyists pay in order to gauge whether the price that a local recycler is asking for one (which was around $100) is fair. On 4/15/22 3:30 AM, Peter Coghlan via cctalk wrote: It's worth what

Re: AlphaServer 2100s available

2022-04-15 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
On 4/15/22 4:30 AM, Peter Coghlan via cctalk wrote: However, it doesn't seem to have any commercial value. I suspect that the recent VAX Hobbyist License Program's expiration will be a shot in the arm for older Alpha systems value as some people migrate to Alpha to legally run OpenVMS as a ho

Re: AlphaServer 2100s available

2022-04-15 Thread Peter Coghlan via cctalk
It's worth what someone is willing to pay for it and this will vary widely. I got one for EUR 20 in 2006. I didn't think this was a bargain because I was under the impression I was getting it for free before I travelled to pick it up. The previous owner had no further use for it and needed the

Re: AlphaServer 2100s available

2022-04-14 Thread Alan Perry via cctalk
What is an AlphaServer 2100 worth? There was one at RePC in Seattle a couple weeks ago and I was thinking about purchasing it. On 4/14/22 2:36 PM, Antonio Carlini via cctalk wrote: On 12/04/2022 16:34, Dave Wade G4UGM via cctalk wrote: Folks, Does no one fancy a go at this. Had zero interes

Re: AlphaServer 2100s available

2022-04-14 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
On 4/14/22 6:10 PM, Antonio Carlini via cctalk wrote: I will learn to get this right eventually :-) Some (if not many) of those that do eventually learn how to do it still make mistakes. So, try to do it correct, but be accepting of those that oops. ;-) Read: Don't beat yourself up for a

Re: AlphaServer 2100s available

2022-04-14 Thread Antonio Carlini via cctalk
On 14/04/2022 22:36, Antonio Carlini via cctalk wrote: (OFFLIST, I think) I will learn to get this right eventually :-) -- Antonio Carlini anto...@acarlini.com

Re: AlphaServer 2100s available

2022-04-14 Thread Antonio Carlini via cctalk
On 12/04/2022 16:34, Dave Wade G4UGM via cctalk wrote: Folks, Does no one fancy a go at this. Had zero interest... Dave (OFFLIST, I think) I'm assuming the machine is safe, at least for the moment? I've actually got less room now than when I had to let it go, so hopefully it can just sit in

RE: AlphaServer 2100s available

2022-04-12 Thread Dave Wade G4UGM via cctalk
Folks, Does no one fancy a go at this. Had zero interest... Dave > -Original Message- > From: dave.g4...@gmail.com > Sent: 04 April 2022 12:29 > To: 'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts' > > Subject: RE: AlphaServer 2100s available > > F

RE: AlphaServer 2100s available

2022-04-04 Thread Dave Wade G4UGM via cctalk
off-list please. Dave > -Original Message- > From: cctalk On Behalf Of Antonio Carlini > via cctalk > Sent: 21 July 2020 20:58 > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > > Subject: AlphaServer 2100s available > > I have three AlphaServer 2100 s

Re: AlphaServer 2100s available

2020-07-27 Thread Chris Zach via cctalk
fine until it was unloaded, and the wheels sank into the pavement. [That summer was a bit hotter than normal...] From: "cctalk" To: "Adrian Graham" , "cctalk" Sent: Monday, July 27, 2020 9:56:56 AM Subject: Re: AlphaServer 2100s available On Jul 27, 2020, at

Re: AlphaServer 2100s available

2020-07-27 Thread Norman Jaffe via cctalk
"Adrian Graham" , "cctalk" Sent: Monday, July 27, 2020 9:56:56 AM Subject: Re: AlphaServer 2100s available > On Jul 27, 2020, at 12:38 PM, Adrian Graham via cctalk > wrote: > > ... > > That reminds me of the time I was transporting a Dodge box (Alph

Re: AlphaServer 2100s available

2020-07-27 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Jul 27, 2020, at 12:38 PM, Adrian Graham via cctalk > wrote: > > ... > > That reminds me of the time I was transporting a Dodge box (Alpha 4100) > between customer sites in a London borough. There were 3 machines, a pair of > 4100s and a 2100. 3 of us got the 2100 and a 4100 into the

Re: AlphaServer 2100s available

2020-07-27 Thread Adrian Graham via cctalk
> On 27 Jul 2020, at 17:06, Michael-John Turner via cctalk > wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 08:58:22PM +0100, Antonio Carlini via cctalk wrote: >> I can't find the weight in any of my references right now but they are very >> heavy. Three people can move them up a slight slope with some

Re: AlphaServer 2100s available

2020-07-27 Thread Michael-John Turner via cctalk
On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 08:58:22PM +0100, Antonio Carlini via cctalk wrote: I can't find the weight in any of my references right now but they are very heavy. Three people can move them up a slight slope with some effort but you would not successfully lift it into a car (assuming that it would

RE: AlphaServer 2100s available

2020-07-22 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
ssion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts' ; > anto...@acarlini.com > Subject: Re: AlphaServer 2100s available > > On 22/07/2020 19:40, Rob Jarratt wrote: > > I would like to come to see it when you get it Dave. I wish I could take one > too, I wonder if I could make room as the dimen

Re: AlphaServer 2100s available

2020-07-22 Thread Antonio Carlini via cctalk
On 22/07/2020 19:40, Rob Jarratt wrote: I would like to come to see it when you get it Dave. I wish I could take one too, I wonder if I could make room as the dimensions don't seem *that* huge. Regards Smaller than a VAX-11/780 orĀ  a VAX 6000 or a VAX 7000. So yes, pretty small :-) The s

RE: AlphaServer 2100s available

2020-07-22 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
22:16 > To: anto...@acarlini.com; 'Antonio Carlini' ; 'General > Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts' > Subject: RE: AlphaServer 2100s available > > Antonio, > Happy to take one. Can collect. Be a nice companion for VAX and IBM P390. > Keep hearing of Al

RE: AlphaServer 2100s available

2020-07-22 Thread Martin Reilly via cctalk
ly 2020 15:49 To: anto...@acarlini.com; 'Antonio Carlini' ; 'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts' Subject: RE: AlphaServer 2100s available I'd be very interested in one of these. Depending where in Oxfordshire I'm probably within 90 minutes drive. ---

RE: AlphaServer 2100s available

2020-07-22 Thread Martin Reilly via cctalk
I'd be very interested in one of these. Depending where in Oxfordshire I'm probably within 90 minutes drive. -Original Message- From: cctalk On Behalf Of Antonio Carlini via cctalk Sent: 21 July 2020 20:58 To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: AlphaSe

RE: AlphaServer 2100s available

2020-07-21 Thread Dave Wade via cctalk
n-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > > Subject: AlphaServer 2100s available > > I have three AlphaServer 2100 systems in storage in the UK (Oxfordshire). > The storage, however, is due to be demolished (soon, but no fixed date). > > > I won't have room to store these three sy

AlphaServer 2100s available

2020-07-21 Thread Antonio Carlini via cctalk
I have three AlphaServer 2100 systems in storage in the UK (Oxfordshire). The storage, however, is due to be demolished (soon, but no fixed date). I won't have room to store these three systems, so if anyone would be interested in offering them a home, then please get in touch! I can proba