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>> On Tue, May 17, 2022 at 10:26 PM Curious Marc via cctalk
>> wrote:
>> I have been auto-rejected from the list again, due to too many bounces,
>> whatever this means. But I swear I have
wrote:
> I have been auto-rejected from the list again, due to too many bounces,
> whatever this means. But I swear I have been a good boy and did not bounce
> too much! This is a plain vanilla gmail account by the way. Does anyone
> have any idea why this keeps happening? Anything I can do about it?
> Marc
I have been auto-rejected from the list again, due to too many bounces,
whatever this means. But I swear I have been a good boy and did not bounce too
much! This is a plain vanilla gmail account by the way. Does anyone have any
idea why this keeps happening? Anything I can do about it?
Marc
On Sat, May 1, 2021 at 4:02 PM Lawrence Wilkinson via cctalk
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> On 1/05/21 4:00 pm, Adrian Graham via cctalk wrote:
> > Hi folks,
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> > Did anyone else get an email about excessive bounces today? I’ve not
> > changed anything hosting wise forever so t
On 1/05/21 4:00 pm, Adrian Graham via cctalk wrote:
Hi folks,
Did anyone else get an email about excessive bounces today? I’ve not changed
anything hosting wise forever so this is a bit weird.
Cheers,
There was a bounce from gmail - something about some of the messages it
didn't lik
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> Subject: Bounces
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> Hi folks,
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> Did anyone else get an email about excessive bounces today? I’ve not
> changed anything hosting wise forever so this is a bit weird.
>
> Cheers,
>
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> Adrian Gr
Adrian Graham via
cctalk
Sent: Saturday, May 1, 2021 10:00:24 AM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Bounces
Hi folks,
Did anyone else get an email about excessive bounces today? I’ve not changed
anything hosting wise forever so this is a bit weird.
Cheers,
--
Adrian
Hi folks,
Did anyone else get an email about excessive bounces today? I’ve not changed
anything hosting wise forever so this is a bit weird.
Cheers,
--
Adrian Graham
Owner of Binary Dinosaurs, the UK's biggest private home computer collection?
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> This is why people use Gmail, it filters spam and trash like no other
Maybe for the people whose eyeballs it's selling. My view as someone
who doesn't use it is that it's a bulletproof spammer drop-box hosting
service crossed with a spam spewer.
Their offloading the costs of their antisocial b
As someone that has several Gmail and Verizon accounts my call is:
AOL is often either put in junk or trash for all all. Often that
includes Yahoo
as well. I suspect its the general drift to better authentication to
slow the junkmail
and spoofed emails. This is why people use Gmail, it filters
From chocolate...
"Gmail is only the single most reliable mail provider in the world, and
bounces never happen."
On 11/23/2016 5:02 PM, Cameron Kaiser wrote:
>Do we have any evidence that his messages are affecting the rest of us,
>though?
The thread about email to AOL is not
On Thu, 24 Nov 2016, Graham Toal wrote:
Not so. By doing nothing (ie NOT creating an SPF record for the sending
domain) you pretty much guarantee a lack of problems. (At least, these
specific problems). It's the smart aleck admins who do create SPF records
etc who cause the problems, in conjun
On 11/24/2016 12:20 PM, Eric Christopherson wrote:
What's a bounce score, and how do you know what yours is and what the
limit is? Does classiccmp specify 5.0, or Yahoo, or what?
When you get the message saying you have been disabled, it contains two links. One is
the link to re-enable yo
On Nov 23, 2016 11:05 PM, "John H. Reinhardt"
wrote:
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> On 11/23/2016 8:00 PM, Eric Christopherson wrote:
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>> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016, Michael Brutman wrote:
>>>
>>> Gmail routinely marks these emails as spam. And Gmail clearly says: "
It
>>> has a from address in aol.com but has failed aol.com
On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 11:43 PM, Richard Loken wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Nov 2016, John H. Reinhardt wrote:
>
> I was thinking of changing my email to another provider even though I've
>> had this one for at least 12 years. But if it's because of a configuration
>> problem, then other providers may r
On Thu, 24 Nov 2016, John H. Reinhardt wrote:
I was thinking of changing my email to another provider even though I've had
this one for at least 12 years. But if it's because of a configuration
problem, then other providers may react the same way so will it do any good?
I doubt that changing
seems odd some list serves have this problem and some do not out
there... which would suggest it may be a matter of the way the listserv is
configured. I hear people with yahoo mail complain about some list serves
but
they also say some cause no problem at all.
Most of it is a
On 11/23/2016 8:00 PM, Eric Christopherson wrote:
On Wed, Nov 23, 2016, Michael Brutman wrote:
Gmail routinely marks these emails as spam. And Gmail clearly says: " It
has a from address in aol.com but has failed aol.com's required tests for
authentication."
Digging deeper into the header one
Ditto although my timing was odd and I may have gotten the notice prior to
replying. I emailed Jay off list but understandably he should be having some
family time during this holiday break and not having to worry about us right
now :-)
Hopefully there's a log or something noting what the mail
Weird I got one of these notices today when I replayed to a thread
On Nov 23, 2016 7:02 PM, "Cameron Kaiser" wrote:
> > > Gmail routinely marks these emails as spam. And Gmail clearly says: "
> It
> > > has a from address in aol.com but has failed aol.com's required tests
> for
> > > authentica
> > Gmail routinely marks these emails as spam. And Gmail clearly says: " It
> > has a from address in aol.com but has failed aol.com's required tests for
> > authentication."
> >
> > Digging deeper into the header one finds:
> >
> > "Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain
On Wed, Nov 23, 2016, Michael Brutman wrote:
> Gmail routinely marks these emails as spam. And Gmail clearly says: " It
> has a from address in aol.com but has failed aol.com's required tests for
> authentication."
>
> Digging deeper into the header one finds:
>
> "Received-SPF: pass (google.com
On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 6:55 PM, Michael Brutman
wrote:
> Gmail routinely marks these emails as spam. And Gmail clearly says: " It
> has a from address in aol.com but has failed aol.com's required tests for
> authentication."
>
> Digging deeper into the header one finds:
>
> "Received-SPF: pass
Gmail routinely marks these emails as spam. And Gmail clearly says: " It
has a from address in aol.com but has failed aol.com's required tests for
authentication."
Digging deeper into the header one finds:
"Received-SPF: pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of
cctalk-boun...@classiccmp
On Wed, 23 Nov 2016, chocolatejolli...@gmail.com wrote:
Gmail is only the single most reliable mail provider in the world, and
bounces never happen. Is anybody ever going to fix this brain dead, bone
headed bug, or can we expect to continue getting memberships disabled
every couple of weeks
On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 5:54 PM, Fred Cisin wrote:
> Gmail is only the single most reliable mail provider in the world, and
>>>> bounces never happen. Is anybody ever going to fix this brain dead, bone
>>>> headed bug, or can we expect to continue getting memberships
no the only one that gets bounced is me.
and I have to re enable it every so often
not a lot though just sometimes
In a message dated 11/23/2016 4:57:44 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
charles.unix@gmail.com writes:
On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 3:54 PM, Fred Cisin wrote:
On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 3:54 PM, Fred Cisin wrote:
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On Wed, 23 Nov 2016, Ian Finder wrote:
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>> Not an expert on mailing lists, but I wonder if the fact that gmail always
>> puts COURYHOUSE into the spam folder due to AOL weirdness is the signal
>> source for the bounce?
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>
^^^ Mis-att
Gmail is only the single most reliable mail provider in the world, and
bounces never happen. Is anybody ever going to fix this brain dead,
bone headed bug, or can we expect to continue getting memberships
disabled every couple of weeks?
On Wed, 23 Nov 2016, Ian Finder wrote:
Not an expert on
g to (by
implication) say Jay's system is lying about seeing bounces, maybe
you'd be happier just unsubbing?
I long ago configured my mailer to silently drop mail from classiccmp
lists it would normally bounce (such as mail claiming to be 8859-1 but
containing octets outside the 8859-1 printable
> -Original Message-
> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Ian Finder
> Sent: 23 November 2016 23:10
> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
>
> Subject: Re: Membership disabled due to bounces
>
> +1 - this is getting s
+1 - this is getting stupid. 4th time I've had to sign up again...
On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 14:45 Charles Anthony
wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 2:39 PM, wrote:
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> > Gmail is only the single most reliable mail provider in the world, and
> > bounces never happen. Is an
On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 2:39 PM, wrote:
> Gmail is only the single most reliable mail provider in the world, and
> bounces never happen. Is anybody ever going to fix this brain dead, bone
> headed bug, or can we expect to continue getting memberships disabled every
> couple of weeks
Gmail is only the single most reliable mail provider in the world, and bounces
never happen. Is anybody ever going to fix this brain dead, bone headed bug, or
can we expect to continue getting memberships disabled every couple of weeks?
> Just re-subscribed to cc-talk. I'm wondering if anyone has an answer
> on this - every now and again I get these warning emails about
> 'excessive bounces'. I have to click a link and then they go away
> for a while. But sometimes I get busy and forget.. and then
On 07/10/2016 02:48 PM, couryho...@aol.com wrote:
I just resubmit each time and check the archive in case I missed
something.
works ok this way. never missed anything life changing.
That's reassuring - my classiccmp folder now has 47,029 unread messages and
I'm starting to think that I'm ne
; From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Brad H
> Sent: 10 July 2016 19:34
> To: 'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts'
>
> Subject: 'Bounces'
>
> Just re-subscribed to cc-talk. I'm wondering if anyone has an a
> -Original Message-
> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Brad H
> Sent: 10 July 2016 19:34
> To: 'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts'
>
> Subject: 'Bounces'
>
> Just re-subscribed to cc-talk. I
nyone has an answer on
this - every now and again I get these warning emails about 'excessive
bounces'. I have to click a link and then they go away for a while. But
sometimes I get busy and forget.. and then the list unsubscribes me. No
idea what 'excessive bounces' m
Just re-subscribed to cc-talk. I'm wondering if anyone has an answer on
this - every now and again I get these warning emails about 'excessive
bounces'. I have to click a link and then they go away for a while. But
sometimes I get busy and forget.. and then the list unsubscrib
> On Jul 2, 2016, at 2:37 AM, Jay West wrote:
>
> Of those bounces, almost 100% of them were due to DMARC/DKIM mechanisms. I
> view DMARC/DKIM as less than useless. First, they are far from universally
> implemented - so most valid email is not DMARC/DKIM "protecte
few these days which make me believe the
lists I'm on have changed practices. Certainly yahoo hasn't rolled back
their dns records.
So unpredictability makes since sense as the bounces you see will be very
dependent on the domains *sending* the messages and their dns records. If
you hav
I've gotten the same disabled issue on my Comcast email.
-Bob
> On Jul 2, 2016, at 10:37 AM, Cavebob wrote:
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> I have had the excessive bounce problem several times in the past using my
> sbcglobal.net account. I switched to my own private server and have not had a
> problem since. It turns
I have had the excessive bounce problem several times in the past using my
sbcglobal.net account. I switched to my own private server and have not had
a problem since. It turns out that ATT's anti-spam initiative can be fickle
and at times a bit draconian.
Bob
oh, and I switched to gmail a while back while experimenting with my
raspberry pi, I am not using my own mail server for this list any more. I
do use it for other lists. It's easy to switch around, why not just try a
different email address at least for a while?
>
>
>
> I have no competence to judge the merits or otherwise of these mechanisms,
> so I won't say anything about it. What I would say though is, if this
> affects a fair number of people, could the list server be configured to be
> a
> bit more tolerant of bounces?
> -Original Message-
> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Jay West
> Sent: 02 July 2016 10:37
> To: 'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts'
>
> Subject: RE: Excessive Bounces
>
> I did dig into this for Rob,
ers, often because they are major
sources of spam.
Of those bounces, almost 100% of them were due to DMARC/DKIM mechanisms. I
view DMARC/DKIM as less than useless. First, they are far from universally
implemented - so most valid email is not DMARC/DKIM "protected". Second a
large percentag
Rob wrote
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I keep getting emails from the list server disabling my account for
excessive bounces. Is it possible to get a log showing where the problem is
coming from so I can complain to my ISP?
-
Gone are the days when people "just know" about mailman-owner, etc.
> I have found there are two possible causes for excessive bounce,
>
> a) Worn out shock absorbers.
>
> b) Badly adjusted high area female support systems
>
Very helpful
:-) :-)
On 7/1/2016 5:01 PM, Rod Smallwood wrote:
On 01/07/2016 18:10, Rob Jarratt wrote:
I keep getting emails from the list server disabling my account for
excessive bounces. Is it possible to get a log showing where the
problem is
coming from so I can complain to my ISP?
Thanks
Rob
I
On 01/07/2016 18:10, Rob Jarratt wrote:
I keep getting emails from the list server disabling my account for
excessive bounces. Is it possible to get a log showing where the problem is
coming from so I can complain to my ISP?
Thanks
Rob
I have found there are two possible causes for
I keep getting emails from the list server disabling my account for
excessive bounces. Is it possible to get a log showing where the problem is
coming from so I can complain to my ISP?
Thanks
Rob
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